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langurmonkey: Ok, I will go through the video again and find the parts for you.
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htown1980: Thanks!! Now you get to watch the video again! :)
I don't mind. It's a very well made video even though what she says is rubbish to my ears.

2:58 is example number one. "Crude, unsophisticated male power fantasies" etc. A very mild way of saying, against women.

More to come.

Another example is the title of the Youtube video.

"Damsel in Distress: Part 2 - Tropes vs Women in Video Games"

Notice the "vs".

Another example is at 4:24. She uses the word "patronizing" to describe the examples etc.

Another example is the fact, this video is about women only. That suggests, something is against women.

5:20 - She says there is even a more "insidious" side to this story.

Definition of insidious
1.
intended to entrap or beguile: an insidious plan.
2.
stealthily treacherous or deceitful: an insidious enemy.
3.
operating or proceeding in an inconspicuous or seemingly harmless way but actually with grave effect: an insidious disease
Post edited May 29, 2013 by langurmonkey
I went into this not expecting much, but it's actually pretty interesting. She has some good points, and when it's all put together like that, it makes you realise how shallow game narratives often are.
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htown1980: Thanks!! Now you get to watch the video again! :)
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langurmonkey: I don't mind. It's a very well made video.

2:58 is example number one. "Crude, unsophisticated male power fantasies" etc. A very mild way of saying, against women.

More to come.

Another example is the title of the Youtube video.

"Damsel in Distress: Part 2 - Tropes vs Women in Video Games"

Notice the "vs".

Another example is at 4:24. She uses the word "patronizing" to describe the examples etc.
I guess maybe we just interpret things differently.

When she describes the titles as focussing on crude, unsophisticated male power fantasies, I don't take that as accusing the people responsible for the titles as being against women, I just take that as suggesting some of the games, to put it simply, contain some elements which are against women. Like if someone says I made a sexist joke, I don't think they are attacking me as being sexist, just my joke about sandwiches and kitchens or whatever.

And the title is about the tropes being against women, not necessarily the developers of the games.

And describing some of the stories as patronizing is again, on my interpretation, attacking the stories, not necessarily suggesting the people who wrote those stories are against women.

I guess maybe it comes down to interpretation. My job often involves me arguing with people about things so I am pretty good at distinguishing between attacking someone's opinion/argument/whatever vs attacking that person.

Thanks for going through the video though!
I liked this one better than the previous one.
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langurmonkey: I don't mind. It's a very well made video.

2:58 is example number one. "Crude, unsophisticated male power fantasies" etc. A very mild way of saying, against women.

More to come.

Another example is the title of the Youtube video.

"Damsel in Distress: Part 2 - Tropes vs Women in Video Games"

Notice the "vs".

Another example is at 4:24. She uses the word "patronizing" to describe the examples etc.
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htown1980: I guess maybe we just interpret things differently.

When she describes the titles as focussing on crude, unsophisticated male power fantasies, I don't take that as accusing the people responsible for the titles as being against women, I just take that as suggesting some of the games, to put it simply, contain some elements which are against women. Like if someone says I made a sexist joke, I don't think they are attacking me as being sexist, just my joke about sandwiches and kitchens or whatever.

And the title is about the tropes being against women, not necessarily the developers of the games.

And describing some of the stories as patronizing is again, on my interpretation, attacking the stories, not necessarily suggesting the people who wrote those stories are against women.

I guess maybe it comes down to interpretation. My job often involves me arguing with people about things so I am pretty good at distinguishing between attacking someone's opinion/argument/whatever vs attacking that person.

Thanks for going through the video though!
If you attack the stories, you aren't attacking the creators of the stories?

8:45, she uses the word insidious again.

10:11 "nothing mature about most of these stories" etc. "and many of them cross the line into blatant misogyny" etc

It is obvious by this point that this video is basically saying, a lot of games out there are against women. In my opinion, that is also saying the people behind these games are against women. And I think you'd have to be crazy to believe that. That is why I think she is a crazy feminist.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by langurmonkey
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And continued with the downreps!
It took me a LONG Time to get it where it was I was basically forgiving people and their spiteful comments against me and you still downrep based only on my opinions!

I forgive people for their very narrow world views I can't help you so I'm not gonna try anymore.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by fr33kSh0w2012
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langurmonkey: If you attack the stories, you aren't attacking the creators of the stories?
Depends actually. One may not be attacking however mildly or vindictively (and those were pretty mild) individual creators, but culture. In other words, it's the difference between talking about the weather versus the climate. Individual weather may be bad or good, but not amount to very much information unless examined in total. A lot of the complaints vis-a-vis women in games are about climate not weather. It would be a mistake to say, as your earlier post contended, that no video game has ever been made that "was against women" - there have been plenty, especially in the old days (and in Japan). Few today could be on individual level considered outright sexist, but the climate is still very much "for boys by the boys club". That said, a lot of video game companies recognize this as a problem and are trying to improve. I would the industry is moving as a whole in very positive directions, again climate is improving even if there are still a few bad instances of weather. Culture can change slowly, but it is changing in good directions.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by crazy_dave
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fr33kSh0w2012: And continued with the downreps!
It took me a LONG Time to get it where it was I was basically forgiving people and their spiteful comments against me and you still downrep based only on my opinions!
Call me crazy, but it could have something to do with you acting out like a three year old who mommy won't buy a toy for. But hey, that can't possible be it. You're always the poor little victim, of course.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by Crassmaster
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Oh look, another Shitty and Worthless video from this batshit insane Cunt who has little to no idea what she's talking about

This was Totally worth the 150K guys, really

Ratings and Comments are disabled, take a wild guess why
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fr33kSh0w2012: And continued with the downreps!
It took me a LONG Time to get it where it was I was basically forgiving people and their spiteful comments against me and you still downrep based only on my opinions!
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Crassmaster: Call me crazy, but it could have something to do with you acting out like a three year old who mommy won't buy a toy for. But hey, that can't possible be it. You're always the poor little victim, of course.
Maybe he is acting immaturely but in General: He's right
Post edited May 29, 2013 by SpikedCereal
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SpikedCereal: Oh look, another Shitty and Worthless video from this batshit insane Cunt who has little to no idea what she's talking about

This was Totally worth the 150K guys, really

Ratings and Comments are disabled, take a wild guess why
Couldn't possible have anything to do with responses like this, right? Naaaa...
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SpikedCereal: Oh look, another Shitty and Worthless video from this batshit insane Cunt who has little to no idea what she's talking about

This was Totally worth the 150K guys, really

Ratings and Comments are disabled, take a wild guess why
AHAHAHAH. Indeed except I think the video was well made. The shitty and worthless content came from her mouth.
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SpikedCereal: Oh look, another Shitty and Worthless video from this batshit insane Cunt who has little to no idea what she's talking about

This was Totally worth the 150K guys, really

Ratings and Comments are disabled, take a wild guess why
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Crassmaster: Couldn't possible have anything to do with responses like this, right? Naaaa...
You mean a natural response to a batshit insane person? The internet shows no mercy. Reveal to the internet, your insanity, expect nasty response...
Post edited May 29, 2013 by langurmonkey
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SpikedCereal: Oh look, another Shitty and Worthless video from this batshit insane Cunt who has little to no idea what she's talking about

This was Totally worth the 150K guys, really

Ratings and Comments are disabled, take a wild guess why
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Crassmaster: Call me crazy, but it could have something to do with you acting out like a three year old who mommy won't buy a toy for. But hey, that can't possible be it. You're always the poor little victim, of course.
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SpikedCereal: Maybe he is acting immaturely but in General: He's right
Thank you for saying something that would have Made my Reputation plummet downward faster then a comet out of the sky.
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SpikedCereal: Oh look, another Shitty and Worthless video from this batshit insane Cunt who has little to no idea what she's talking about

This was Totally worth the 150K guys, really

Ratings and Comments are disabled, take a wild guess why

Maybe he is acting immaturely but in General: He's right
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fr33kSh0w2012: Thank you for saying something that would have Made my Reputation plummet downward faster then a comet out of the sky.
Rep here is not a big deal, man. Nobody takes it seriously. It's not like, reach 1000 rep, receive free cookies and GOGs every week.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by langurmonkey
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fr33kSh0w2012: Thank you for saying something that would have Made my Reputation plummet downward faster then a comet out of the sky.
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langurmonkey: Rep here is not a big deal, man. Nobody takes it seriously. It's not like, reach 1000 rep, receive free cookies and GOGs every week.
Yes but some People here make it so you have to have High rep to enter their competitions which is pretty unfair to us that do not have it! that have Been Here before them!

I have had too many blunders happen to me in this life to Last for Eternity!

My Asperger's Syndrome, I could have Intestinal Cancer, My Irritable Bowel Syndrome may actually be Celiacs disease or the cancer, My mothers Schizo-Affective Disorder and My sisters kanner's-syndrome and a father who doesn't give a happy rats arse Hmm.. I am the Only Male in the family and I carry the weight of the World on my shoulders and I can't even Fart sideways at home without one of them Tearing my Heary Out. I would not wish My type of life on ANYONE IT IS THAT BAD! a Starving kid in Africa only comes to mind with what could be a LITTLE worse.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by fr33kSh0w2012
So, are you guys like trolling or just unaware of what you're saying..?