Yeah, on some level, this is "Fuck the System: The movie", but you can't deny it's mostly if not only targeted at males.

It's all about men being tricked by the system to stop being True Masculine Male.

I like the movie but for me it was about madness and (male) self-delusion...
...maybe I should watch it again. It was along time ago that I saw it.

Hey ! It's about finding your animal of power !

In my opinion it's about "Do you think you are in charge ?" on a tremendous number of levels. I consider it a "Male" problematic, because I make a parallel with the "pater familias" role ... but nowadays many women have that role sooooooo ...

"We buy things we don't want, for money we don't have to impress people we don't like" ;-)

"You buy furniture. You tell yourself, this is the last sofa I will ever need in my life. Buy the sofa, then for a couple years you're satisfied that no matter what goes wrong, at least you've got your sofa issue handled. Then the right set of dishes. Then the perfect bed. The drapes. The rug. Then you're trapped in your lovely nest, and the things you used to own, now they own you."

"This is your life ending one minute at a time"

" I see all this potential, and I see it squandered. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables - slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war... Our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off."

And yet another thread falls to the Off Topic power of the GOG community. xD

It's more of the same, but with more recent games this time.

http://www.ryanestrada.com/mysticalmonkey/index.html
:D

Thanks, I'll save my time and do something else then.

I admit I don't know the comics at all. And I suspect that it isn't well known here. However you got me interested. Please, share the article. I will read it up as soon as I catch up on the comics itself.

Hmm, I wouldn't put it into same category as Transformers or James Bond but yeah, I can see where you are coming from.

What does all of that have to do with men or masculinity? I always steered clear of Fight Club because I mistook it for a simple action movie about guys fighting, until I saw the error of my ways and realized it's something much more clever and universal. Granted, the story is told from a male perspective and there are mostly men in it, but to me it's not a "guy's movie" (or book) but both a psychological thriller and a tongue-in-cheek commentary about modern society in general, not about men. Actually, I think I've read that after the movie Chuck Palahniuk was approached by lots of people who thought this was real and wanted to join a Fight Club, and not a few among them were women.

It's mostly because men are portrayed as money making machines without any purpose in life until they find it in beating the shit out of each other and finally feel freedom? And the only significant woman there is a fuck toy? There is no female fight club in the movie, not even a hint of it. And it's not really surprising, because it depicts today's men going back to their "roots" where other males were impressing each other and proving their masculinity by fighting and killing each other in their caves.

I agree though, this movie is much more about than just that, but most of the plot is about white collar men being PISSED OFF.

That was a good fun read. Many thx for that.

Calvin and Hobbes. Enjoy :)
Fan Theory. Site seems to be down atm.
[url=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:p9pDB7PJHEkJ:ignatz.brinkster.net/cfightclub.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=gr]Cached version of the site[/url]

I agree with her to the point that the propaganda is in excess and I'm also very aware of how entertainment, rather intentionally or unintentionally, psychologically molds - not ONLY females - but growing males as well to believe that they are at the mercy, dependency of or in need of salvation from an external agent to themselves.

Most people believe this washing or conditioning can be avoided simply by turning blind eye to organized religions and cults but those organized religions and cults still play strong influence in the story material we all digest from every direction.

And yet as I agree with her that it is in excess, I still appreciate the relationships that some developers have put in their stories like the ongoing Peach & Mario saga even though it is a spiritual evolvement from having to run up scaffoldings to rescue Pauline.

So I don't believe that it is to eradicate it all together but to moderate it in respect to developing female children and keep in mind that you don't want to continue on with wave after wave of people growing up believing themselves powerless and at the mercy of others (if you're reading this from the Middle East disregard).