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Posted May 29, 2013
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ne_zavarj: Am i the only one in here , who don't have any problems with Anita and her videos ?
Well she did show me how overused and lazy story writers use certain plot points.

Man they are lazy.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by Elmofongo
Posted May 29, 2013
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Piranjade: I think, maybe things just go in a circle:
Most "hardcore" videogames are aimed at a male audience, so they get advertised that way, they get gifted to sons (and not daughters), then boys/men then talk to each other about it and so on. By aiming this stuff at men, you create a male audience. You then cater to this audience (because you KNOW they will buy) and create more stuff tailored to them. And so on.

And when men then meet a gaming woman/girl they point out again and again how rare and special that is which again strengthens the feeling that the games are for men.

I personally (which of course is not representative) found that when I showed my female friends different games there would always be some kind they liked. They just never thought of trying them out. They didn't feel that they were also made for them.
But when they played them they liked them.
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ne_zavarj: Am i the only one in here , who don't have any problems with Anita and her videos ?
Nah, the majority do not have any problems, but a few very vocal do.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by amok
Posted May 29, 2013
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JMich: Quick question about this, how did they determine the gender of the users? Registration doesn't ask for it. Was there a survey sent out or something?
Names on credit cards and payment accounts (probably).
Posted May 29, 2013
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JMich: Quick question about this, how did they determine the gender of the users? Registration doesn't ask for it. Was there a survey sent out or something?
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Starmaker: Names on credit cards and payment accounts (probably).
That would make me male as the name on the credit card I use for gaming stuff is a male one.
Posted May 29, 2013
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ne_zavarj: Am i the only one in here , who don't have any problems with Anita and her videos ?
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amok: Nah, the majority do not have any problems, but a few very vocal do.
You're kidding , right? :D Have you seen the amount of negative feedback she got on youtube and her website/blog? :D
I think it's the other way around. xD

She even got sexual invitations on XBLA. xD
Post edited May 29, 2013 by HijacK
Posted May 29, 2013
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amok: Nah, the majority do not have any problems, but a few very vocal do.
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HijacK: You're kidding , right? :D Have you seen the amount of negative feedback she got on youtube and her website/blog? :D
I think it's the other way around. xD
I guess people are more vocal when they want to complain than when they just don't mind or don't have any problems.
"Hi, I saw your video and I don't have a problem with it." XD
Posted May 29, 2013
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amok: Nah, the majority do not have any problems, but a few very vocal do.
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HijacK: You're kidding , right? :D Have you seen the amount of negative feedback she got on youtube and her website/blog? :D
I think it's the other way around. xD

She even got sexual invitations on XBLA. xD
Actually it's really common for a vocal minority to look like a majority, especially on the internet where silence makes it as if one doesn't exist.
Posted May 29, 2013
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Starmaker: Names on credit cards and payment accounts (probably).
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Piranjade: That would make me male as the name on the credit card I use for gaming stuff is a male one.
Well, they don't care about you personally, they care about statistics. Vice versa, a boy might use his mom's card.
Posted May 29, 2013
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amok: Nah, the majority do not have any problems, but a few very vocal do.
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HijacK: You're kidding , right? :D Have you seen the amount of negative feedback she got on youtube and her website/blog? :D
I think it's the other way around. xD

She even got sexual invitations on XBLA. xD
Yes, most people don't care at all.

edit -you could argue that more people should care... one of the problems here is that too few people cares enough.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by amok
Posted May 29, 2013
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Piranjade: "Hi, I saw your video and I don't have a problem with it." XD
That's sadly true. Almost everything in the Internet seems to be hated becasue only haters care enough to leave comments :P
Posted May 29, 2013
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Elmofongo: Men, they are lazy.
You feminist !

;p
Posted May 29, 2013
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Elmofongo: Men, they are lazy.
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Potzato: You feminist !

;p
Damn right!
Posted May 29, 2013
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keeveek: That's sadly true. Almost everything in the Internet seems to be hated becasue only haters care enough to leave comments :P
Let's subvert it then, shall we?

I watched the video and I didn't really care either way.
Posted May 29, 2013
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keeveek: I don't know.
Money. Assets. Know-How. People. Research. Probably entire fucking building full of people who do only market research and analysis?
I don't know but I would say that it's easier to get to know what games you like to play than your personal information on Steam where many people don't buy directly and thus they don't need to fill true details.
Okay, let's say you can get to know a certain percentage of true combination of name, gender, birth. A lot of people write it everywhere and if not, debit/credit card reveals them. With occasional questionnaires sent, you get additional information. As for sexuality, I would say that it's more profitable to just track what people romance in-game or what type of action figures they buy and follow the trend. I guess someone can consider a person playing as a male and romancing female character to be straight. Be it a woman or a man.

I don't mention forums because I suppose a company is interested in customers not "fans" who might be vocal but just pirate games or buy pre-owned copies and that's not a type of customer a subject interested in profit needs to cater.

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keeveek: Dude. Youre bringing up a movie being almost one hundred percent aimed at men and their fantasies into a conversation about feminism!

Also, you do not talk about fight club!
Come on, Fight Club is for everyone! It's classic. And Marla has my undying respect for her unique style of shaving. Sadly, a majority of people I know haven't seen it or dislike it. The movie seems to be usually liked by people who are disgusted by The System™, regardless of their sex. In my experience, of course.
Posted May 29, 2013
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Mivas: Sadly, a majority of people I know haven't seen it or dislike it.
If they've read Calvin and Hobbes, tell them that the main character is a grown up Calvin. Can link you the article explaining the theory if you wish.
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