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Posted April 19, 2011
If you like Science Fiction, look no further. You can't possibly go wrong with these two addictive Sci-Fi games, each with a cult following of its own.

First, there was [url=http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/star_control_1_2]Star Control, a turn-based strategy game with an addictive real-time arcade combat mode called Mêlée. This was essentially a relatively close-quarters duel between two spaceships. The most impressive thing about this mode, and the game in general, was that, somehow, the game's creators managed to make the dozen or so race-specific ship types completely different from each other, yet at the same time balanced.

Star Control 2 added even more races and ships to the fray, while retaining balance in the Mêlée mode, but changed the underlying gameplay considerably. The sequel was turned into more of a space-faring adventure game, with quests, diplomacy and character progression in the form of ship upgrades. The gameplay is as addictive as ever and the storyline is both good and believable, with tons of memorable characters, races and humor that will make you go back to this game again and again.
Posted April 19, 2011
Oh snap! I had this when I was a kid, but I misplaced it at some point and had forgotten its name (or rather I had one of these and I don't even know which one). Seeing those pilots/ships again is such a nostalgia bomb, it made a (happy) mess in my mind for a moment.
Posted April 19, 2011
SC 1, 2 and 3 would be OK, but I don't agree with this bundle. Actually, unlike most people, I liked SC3, but it's like apples and oranges with SC2 for me.

I already have the 3DO version of this as well with the UQM free edition, so I don't see much point in this except to get SC1 for nostalgic purposes. I know I have SC1 somewhere, but I don't think I can even install it.
Post edited April 19, 2011 by gamebin
Posted April 19, 2011
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Khalaq: 1) SC2 is one of the best "shooter" games ever made and the creators deserve my money.
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eyeball226: You're giving Atari your money. Toys For Bob made this game...
I know who made the game. What I am unclear about is whether or not they get any royalties from the retail sales of their games. They might, or they might not.

Regardless, I have other reasons for buying the game from GOG, as noted above. If you don't want to spend the money, that's your choice. However, some people are coming across as though they are trying to dissuade those of us who want to buy this package from doing so, and that seems rather slimey to me.


-Khalaq
Post edited April 19, 2011 by Khalaq
Posted April 19, 2011
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eyeball226: You're giving Atari your money. Toys For Bob made this game...
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Khalaq: I know who made the game. What I am unclear about is whether or not they get any royalties from the retail sales of their games. They might, or they might not.

Regardless, I have other reasons for buying the game from GOG, as noted above. If you don't want to spend the money, that's your choice. However, some people are coming across as though they are trying to dissuade those of us who want to buy this package from doing so, and that seems rather slimey to me.


-Khalaq
I had no problem with your other points, hence not quoting them. I also wasn't trying to dissuade you, just making sure you were aware that TFB may not be getting money from it. I seem to remember reading something about them being screwed over by Accolade and that being why Star Control 3 was developed by someone else and was so different (some might say bad). The fact that Accolade could make sequels without TFB does suggest that they got screwed over.

Still, buying this is a good idea because it will tell Atari that the name Star Control can still make money. You never know, they might contract TFB (who still exist BTW) to make Star Control 4.


EDIT: I'm going to write to Paul Reiche III and Fred Ford and find out if they're getting any money from this. It's a definite purchase if they are.
Post edited April 19, 2011 by eyeball226
Posted April 19, 2011
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eyeball226: You never know, they might contract TFB (who still exist BTW) to make Star Control 4.


EDIT: I'm going to write to Paul Reiche III and Fred Ford and find out if they're getting any money from this. It's a definite purchase if they are.
If they do decide to do a Star Control 4, I sure hope they do it right. It could be a huge seller if done right.

Oh, and let us know what you find out from Paul and Fred.


-Khalaq
Posted April 19, 2011
Neato!:)
Posted April 19, 2011
Ok guys you sold me bought along with alone in the dark. Now to hide my credit card from my wife :)
Posted April 19, 2011
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Khalaq: I know who made the game. What I am unclear about is whether or not they get any royalties from the retail sales of their games. They might, or they might not.
Seriously doubtful. Most game development work is done under a "work for hire" contract and once the job is complete, it is paid in full. TFB pretty much gets nothing out of this beyond recognition. Still, setting aside the fact that this is an awesome game, it is worth it to buy if only to support GOG and encourage Atari to continue releasing great classic games like this.
Posted April 19, 2011
Two things.

One - Atari owns Accolade's IP now?

Two - Dammit, I had a copy of this for sale on eBay and now it's not worth much. Damn you, GOG! DAMN YOU TO (insert unlikable European country here)!!!!!!!!! :p
Posted April 19, 2011
Cant say Ive heard of it, And seemingly not the only one, Though Im tempted to put in it the big piles of games im going to get around eventually to playing.

Seeing as $6 is nothing(im hardly rich but $6 isnt a lot of money, Its like a cheap lunch over here) If someone can give a longish informative post of what its about and what makes it special I'll buy it.

The reviews and the store front page doesnt show or say much to improve its buying appeal for the neutral.
Posted April 19, 2011
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Khalaq: I know who made the game. What I am unclear about is whether or not they get any royalties from the retail sales of their games. They might, or they might not.
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cogadh: Seriously doubtful. Most game development work is done under a "work for hire" contract and once the job is complete, it is paid in full. TFB pretty much gets nothing out of this beyond recognition. Still, setting aside the fact that this is an awesome game, it is worth it to buy if only to support GOG and encourage Atari to continue releasing great classic games like this.
You're thinking in 21st century terms - back in the early 90s and late 80s, many if not most developers for PC and Amiga were self-sufficient and funded the game themselves, relying on publishers to manufacture everything, advertise and take it to the stores. This was one of the reasons why games back then were so much more daring - because they had no publisher breathing down their neck trying to dumb it down to reach a broader public. Basically, the publisher was the one taking a cut from the profits and the rest went to the developer, including royalties. That's why you often had different publishers depending on where you lived - many games ended up having a different publisher in Europe since publishers back then didn't always exist on both sides of the Atlantic.
Post edited April 19, 2011 by Red_Avatar
Posted April 19, 2011
Star Control 2 is fascinating in that it just kinda throws dozens of cool ideas from a dozen different genres together and it actually works. It really should be an absolute mess of a game, but instead is one of the classics.

Although I've played the Ur-Quan Masters I'll probably pick this up as I've never tried Star Control 1, and just to throw my support behind gog and the Star Control brand.
Posted April 19, 2011
Star Control 2 is available as The Ur-Quan Masters‎. The game is free as a part of an open source project online since 2002
Posted April 19, 2011
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snap-d: Can I just say - Star Control 2 is one of the best PC games ever ......
Yes you can, and I would agree!
Posted April 19, 2011
I was just telling a friend the other day that these were some games I would be completely unable to pass up. GOG - I'm very happy to find another reason to give you my money.
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