Far too busy with my play through of gothic 2 for me to drop any money on this. BUT I'm having an absolute blast= with 2, so I'll pick this baby up after completing my story in 2.

Thank you Mr. GoG!

In no particular order:

1) They removed the desert and snowy mountain regions, leaving only the generic fantasy setting in springtime.
2) New writing is bad, new voiceacting is particularly horrifying (especially for the orcs)
3) Each town is populated with maybe 5 people.
4) Of those 5 people, quest givers may or may not be generically named NPC's (a big no-no in the Gothic series)
5) The nameless hero is now a sanctimonious asshole.
6) Despite point 5, you can still partake of pointless quests like "Please kill my husband because my allowance isn't big enough."

And many others. Supposedly it was even buggier on release than vanilla Gothic 3, but I've only ever played the enhanced edition so I can't speak to that. It's the only game in the series (yes, including Arcania) that I couldn't bring myself to finish. That says a lot, since Gothic 3 was probably my favorite one.

Well dear folks,

I already have Gothic 3 and the Forsaken Gods Expansion gathering dust on disc. Still I would consider to buy them all over again as a download package, when the bundle gets offered as a whole. Yes, this game is THAT good when it's fixed. So I'll wait till GOG releases the lot. In that case you should definitely get the patch made by Mad Vulture Games and don't forget to give them credit for the hard work (I'm by no means an affiliate, but I do believe one has to pay respects for every ounce of sweat invested in fan-based non commercial labour).

I'll provide you with the link for future reference: http://www.madvulture.de/wp/gothic-3-forsaken-gods-enhanced-edition. Half way on that page you can read the result of the change log.

Just my two cents for today...

... and for another penny:

You can find a new mod for the expansion on this page -the intro is still in German though...: http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/989442-RELEASE-CMGD1.0-Forsaken-Gods

BURN IT! Not a fan of this one in the least.

Sorry to say this, but the game is only good with community patch and even not then sometimes. It's terribly unbalanced, huge holes in the story and much too long.

I see that GOG doesn't want to support anything more than the basic version, but they could easily host the community patch themselves or put a direct link on a prominent place like the gamecard for instance, if they really wanted to.

Apart from that it has some properties of a true Gothic game. That is the realistic 3D physics model, the whole world simulation and such things.

Do not forget that GOG is not charity service - it is business. So they cant include even free files without strict permission from its authors. In case of fan patches it could be sometimes hard to find the right person. Also, GOG has signed agreement with G3 developer and it could include some rules. Also adding patch to the game = adding full support for it (imagine users who will later post some bugs on forum regarding community patch).

I agree as the support nightmare alone should be enough to prevent GOG from adding links. A 938 mb patch? Not offering to support it is a DUH thing IMHO.

Edit: Having said that, I downloaded the community patch this morning and will DL the game this weekend. Looking forward to this game after waiting five years to try it. I REALLY like long RPG's . . . =)

Like or [url=http://www.gog.com/en/news/mod_spotlight_planescape_torment_mods_guide/]this or this, for example?

It is possible I misunderstood your intended meaning. I have not read most of the thread and replied to your post as if literal. There are actually links to 3rd party mods and patches in the descriptions of some game info pages. That appears to be the extent of the request.

Oh. My. Cunt.

This would definitely be an instabuy if I didn't already have it on Steam and weren't half way through a playthrough. However, I will pick this up from GOG as well if it ever goes on sale (upcoming holiday sales?!)

I've played through Gothic 1 twice, Gothic 2 at least 3 times & a 4th play-through with the Night of the Raven G2 expansion (included in the G2 GOTY edition, which is the one GoG is selling); and I am on my fifth or sixth play-through of Gothic III. Notes on each:

1) Gothic 1. A classic RPG experience. A bit too dated even for my very generous tastes--a very good game but my least favorite of the Gothic series thus far.

2) Gothic 2. This is truly a great RPG that serious devotees of the art owe it to themselves to play. And please, play it the first time, if possible, with the Night of the Raven expansion--it adds *a lot* to the G2 game and rules base, and if you avoid cheating and do what you are supposed to do (not cut corners just to race the clock) you'll get ~130+ hours plus out of it! The NotR expansion adds so much to G2, and enhances it so much, that it really is a different, better game than vanilla Gothic 2, imo. This game oozes character, and even though at first I laughed at the some of the voice acting because it was so horrific, it really does grow on you!....;) I grew to actually really dig some of the cheesier voice overs in the game. Lots and lots of fun.

3) Gothic 3. Oh, man, what a game! It's huge, and there are a number of ways you can play the game right from the start, and the decisions you make definitely impact the way the game plays. G3 is actually my favorite of the series so far. I'll have more time logged in with this play through of G3 than I had with G2:NotR!

4)Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods. I know that Gog isn't selling this one yet. It is, however, available from Steam in an Enhanced version. I have the game but have not yet played it so I cannot comment. BTW, Forsaken Gods is not an expansion for G3--it's a stand-alone game.

5) Gothic 4. JoWood's last crack at making money from the Piranha Bytes' Gothic properties. I bought it and played this one through--and it's nice if what you want is RPG "lite" because "lite" is what it is. Also, JoWood would have done better to have named this game something besides G4 because it doesn't in any way, shape, or form play like the Gothic series or resemble the Gothic series--except in some few very superficial ways--affectations thrown in as afterthoughts to try and make the game more "Gothic like." Fortunately, the Gothic IP has reverted to Piranha Bytes once again, post JoWood, so it will be interesting to see what PB will do with the IP moving on past Risen 2.

Mods, Mods, Mods:

This is *the* site to see for all of your Gothic-related needs--textures, play mods, etc.:

Great Gothic Resource

I have the Steam versions of the G2:NotR, G3, and G3:FG games, and all three games will accept and function fine with the community patches and mods available from the above linked WorldofGothic site! I would be very surprised if the GoG versions proved any less hospitable to updates and mods. In my current play through of G3, I'm running the Content Mod 2.3 (English) which adds bunches of stuff to the G3 game version 1.74--which is the Enhanced Edition done by the community and is designed to install on top of PB's last official patch for G3, 1.6x. Make no mistake about it, for both G2:NotR and G3 Enhanced Edition, you *must* run the latest community patches for superior game play of the kind you expect. Again, everything you need is available from www.worldofgothic.com. These patches fix oodles of broken/malformed quests in addition to lots of other neat things and new content they bring to the games.

THE REASON that neither Valve nor GoG offers any of the community patches for these games beyond the last official patches the developers made available for them is because, first of all, the community patches belong to the community members who made them and not to the respective game developers or their publishers; secondly, the publisher cannot be responsible for whatever the community patches do since the publishing deals for the IP don't include the rights to distribute the community patches. It is good enough, I think, that both Valve and GoG are selling the game in a fully moddable configuration so that their customers who buy the games can use resources like WoG to mod and update their games from 3rd-party sources! That's very important. And, not all games get this hands-off treatment. I also bought the Witcher 2 from Steam, and the Steam version *cannot* be updated by 3rd-party community patches and/or some 3rd-party mods--even CDPR's very own commercial patch for W2 won't install into the Steam version of the game. A copy of Steam Witcher 2 can only be updated through Steamworks.

Whew! I hope this helps a few people. Lots of text here, but these games are H_U_G_E...;) And I do not mean "huge" in the sense of Oblivion in that sometimes you feel you are in this gigantic world teeming with atmosphere but very little to do...;)

But I will say this in closing: if you don't plan to avail yourself of the community updated game patches and mods available from WoG and a few other sites--I really wouldn't bother buying these games, because the fan base for them has had years to improve the games and they've certainly taken advantage of the time to improve them substantially. Don't miss out on the fun, especially at these prices!

The Enhanced Edition of Forsaken Gods was developed by the same team that did the enhanced edition community patch for the original Gothic 3. The key difference is that it was specifically commissioned by Jowood and the patch developers were hired as employees and paid for their work, which is why it is officially supported. As far as I can figure, Nordic/Jowood can't add the community patch to the digitally distributed Gothic 3 releases because they have no rights to it; they would have to offer some kind of reimbursement to the patch developers or work out a deal. And so far Nordic/Jowood cannot or will not do so, and it is unlikely they will in the future now that A) Gothic 4 is out and B) they've lost the rights to the Gothic series.

Wishlisted. :)

Awesome, well might as well complete my task of rebuying all the Gothic games from you guys, lol. And so my boxes of of game boxes remain packed (maybe I'll put all my boxes in one big box, then it'd be a box of boxes of game boxes!).