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Hi,
I would love to support your shop and buy some of the games you are offering but I neither own a credit card nor do I wish to get a PayPal account. So I wanted to ask if anytime soon ClickandBuy ( http://www.clickandbuy.com/EU/en/ ) will be available as alternate payment method for GOG.
I'm already using ClickandBuy with Steam and it's an easy to use and fast payment method. It would be great if I (and others) could use it with GOG, too. Are there any plans for this? Or at least for evaluating the possibility of using it?
You mean there are people who can actually use Click and Buy successfully? Several people I know have had nothing but problems with that service =/.
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bansama: You mean there are people who can actually use Click and Buy successfully? Several people I know have had nothing but problems with that service =/.

I've used it through iTunes shop, with no hassles...admittedly, that was a good few years ago, for old albums that weren't available on Amazon, or the High Street stores...
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bansama: You mean there are people who can actually use Click and Buy successfully? Several people I know have had nothing but problems with that service =/.

Sure. You connect your C&B account with your Steam account and that's it. Every time you want to buy something you just choose C&B as payment method. Nothing to type in, three clicks and the game of your choice is yours. They charge your bank account with the price of the game automatically. It really is that easy. :D
That's why it would be great to have it here, too.
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Spartan: Hi,
I would love to support your shop and buy some of the games you are offering but I neither own a credit card nor do I wish to get a PayPal account. So I wanted to ask if anytime soon ClickandBuy ( http://www.clickandbuy.com/EU/en/ ) will be available as alternate payment method for GOG.
I'm already using ClickandBuy with Steam and it's an easy to use and fast payment method. It would be great if I (and others) could use it with GOG, too. Are there any plans for this? Or at least for evaluating the possibility of using it?

From the FAQ:
Please add *insert website feature here* to GOG.com.
GOG is currently in beta and will therefore be changing a lot as it develops. The GOG team is always looking for new ideas to enhance the experience and actually listens to the public when they ask for something. However, there are a few "proper" ways you can give the team your feedback. There is a GOG Features Wishlist thread in the general forums as well as the website feedback link at the bottom of the site.
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Spartan: You connect your C&B account with your Steam account and that's it.

A lot of the problems I've been told about concerning C&B are actually to do with Steam. Such as C&B not actually passing payment to Valve or later performing unauthorized charge backs. Other complaints are with GamersGate and the near 50-50 chance of C&B authorizing a purchase.
Never mind that C&B generally looks like a slimey website to start with.
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bansama: A lot of the problems I've been told about concerning C&B are actually to do with Steam. Such as C&B not actually passing payment to Valve or later performing unauthorized charge backs. Other complaints are with GamersGate and the near 50-50 chance of C&B authorizing a purchase.

Dunno, I had no problems so far.
Anyway, I'm not suggesting to use it instead of all the other payment methods on GOG, but as an alternate payment method for those (like me) who want to use it.
Post edited November 28, 2009 by Spartan
I don't own a creditcard and have no trust in paypal.
Wirecard AG, a German bank, offers a virtual credit card.
It's linked to your bank account with them.
Simply open a bank account there, transfer funds to it (costing € 1 per transfer), and you can use the virtual Mastercard that's attached to it.
I've been using it for over a year now without any problems.
It should be clear that you can't pay more cash than there's in your account.
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HertogJan: I don't own a creditcard and have no trust in paypal.
Wirecard AG, a German bank, offers a virtual credit card.
It's linked to your bank account with them.
Simply open a bank account there, transfer funds to it (costing € 1 per transfer), and you can use the virtual Mastercard that's attached to it.
I've been using it for over a year now without any problems.
It should be clear that you can't pay more cash than there's in your account.

You don't trust PayPal, yet you use a service that is virtually identical to it, except PayPal doesn't charge funds transfer fees... I want to say that's really ironic, but ever since that Alanis Morrisette song, my irony senses are a little blunted.
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HertogJan: I don't own a creditcard and have no trust in paypal.
Wirecard AG, a German bank, offers a virtual credit card.
It's linked to your bank account with them.
Simply open a bank account there, transfer funds to it (costing € 1 per transfer), and you can use the virtual Mastercard that's attached to it.
I've been using it for over a year now without any problems.
It should be clear that you can't pay more cash than there's in your account.
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cogadh: You don't trust PayPal, yet you use a service that is virtually identical to it, except PayPal doesn't charge funds transfer fees... I want to say that's really ironic, but ever since that Alanis Morrisette song, my irony senses are a little blunted.

It didn't cross your mind that me not trusting paypal might actually have something to do with paypal and not with the type of company it is or the market it operates in?
I did use it in the past, till about 2.5 years ago when they got a European bank license.
They moved accounts from 1 paypal company to another in another country with different terms and conditions and a different privacy policy.
At that time they also canceled the option to transfer funds to your account.
Instead you could only use paypal by giving them an unlimited and none expiring right to withdraw money from your bank account.
That's not something I'm willing to give any company.
The way things were communicated, including their replies to my complaint and questions, made me complete loose my trust in them.
I'm not willing to let them handle my payments.
In The Netherlands we have a saying: Where there's smoke, there's fire.
The internet is full with people's bad experiences with paypal.
I'm sure some are exaggerated, but there's too many to ignore them.
Anyone not living in the US knows that paypal is screwing you over when you're paying in a foreign currency.
They add 5% to the exchange rate, in their favour off course.
As I happen to do some payments in British pounds and American dollars, I'm not looking for constantly paying way too much.
As for Wirecard, so far I needed their support once.
I was helped quickly, professionally and politely, exactly as I expect from bank personel.
My problem was dealt with within 24 hours.
Post edited November 29, 2009 by HertogJan
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HertogJan: At that time they also canceled the option to transfer funds to your account.

I have always had that option, and still do.
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HertogJan: At that time they also canceled the option to transfer funds to your account.
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Miaghstir: I have always had that option, and still do.

They stopped it here.
Not sure about your situation, but Dutch paypal customers got moved from PayPal Ltd (UK based) to PayPal Luxembourgh over 2 years ago.
Not being able to transfer funds anymore was 1 of the consequences of that move.
I exchanged several e-mails with their support staff based upon my questions about it and had someone assigned to the complaint I filed about it.
Their response was to keep quoting their new terms and conditions.
As it was basically take it or leave it, I left it.
I've taken a look at the Dutch paypal page.
It's not possible to transfer money into your paypal account.
Your paypal account is linked to a bank account, a creditcard or both.
When paying something the money is transfered from your bank account or creditcard through paypal to the party receiving the payment.
It is possible to receive money on your paypal account, but it's not clear if it stays on the account or if it's transfered to your bank account.
The help function suggests it stays on your paypal account.
That's weird, I'm using Paypal Luxembourg as well.
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Miaghstir: That's weird, I'm using Paypal Luxembourg as well.

I'm guessing the difference is in national laws and common usage than.
For companies here it's quite easy to withdraw money from people's accounts.
They simply send a withdrawal note to the bank claiming the account holder gave them the right to do so.
There's no check to see if the account holder gave them that right.
It's up to the account holder to check their account withdrawals.
So far that system hardly gave any problems.
Most companies handle this with care, but some can cause problems.
Most problematic are energy supplying companies, ISPs and telcos.
In case of problems you can undo the payment within a certain amount of days.
If you're too late or the bank is uncooperative, you can go over their head (in which case the bank suddenly is a lot more cooperative).