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Posted January 11, 2013
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TheEnigmaticT: it's not really a position that's *worth* paying for.
it is. it benefits the company sans why it is worth paying for.
otherwise you can do it yourself right?
Posted January 11, 2013
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Vitek: Does the intern get blue text? That would be big incentive.
I wouldn't have thought so, as an intern isn't a full time employee.
Posted January 11, 2013
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TheEnigmaticT: We're looking for an intern to set up lights and record video games; it's not really a position that's *worth* paying for.
I do hope that was some silly joke. Oh well, at least you're honest about what kind of a reception the new intern should expect. Apart from the façade perfect one, of course.

Although I must admit I did have a bad experience with an internship job. It took some fairly hard-armed tactics to get the company to pay me the minimum wage that the law demanded from them. It was the same method, I wasn't deemed "worth" paying for. It wasn't for my lack of work ethics, but for the lack of "gratitude", minimum wage law and a binding contract be damned.
Post edited January 11, 2013 by Titanium
Posted January 11, 2013
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Vitek: Does the intern get blue text? That would be big incentive.
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gameon: I wouldn't have thought so, as an intern isn't a full time employee.
what if every third letter was blue? or the start of sentences?
Posted January 11, 2013
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Mivas: Haha, this made me laugh:
What you should already know:.
English. Our Head of Marketing is American, i nie mówi po polsku.
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jamyskis: Yeah, I did wonder sometimes how TET gets by in Poland without speaking Polish.
OTOH, maybe it's best not go to what I just mentioned :P
Post edited January 11, 2013 by JudasIscariot
Posted January 11, 2013
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TheEnigmaticT: We're looking for an intern to set up lights and record video games; it's not really a position that's *worth* paying for.
If it's work of value to the company, it's worth paying for. It may not be worth paying very much for, but to expect people to work for free is exploitative and immoral.

Does Poland have a minimum wage law? If so, is this even legal? It wouldn't be here in the UK (though a lot of employers still get away with it because people don't know their rights or are afraid to enforce them).
Post edited January 11, 2013 by ydobemos
Posted January 11, 2013
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TheEnigmaticT: We're looking for an intern to set up lights and record video games; it's not really a position that's *worth* paying for. And I believe it would be the only intern who's currently working at the company.
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ydobemos: If it's work of value to the company, it's worth paying for.

Does Poland have a minimum wage law? If so, is this even legal? It wouldn't be here in the UK (though a lot of employers still get away with it because people don't know their rights or are afraid to enforce them).
Work Experience is the same kind of thing. Charity jobs also dont pay you. As their internship is only 12 hours a week it's a temp job. Good for long term unemployed people such as myself.
Posted January 11, 2013
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gameon: Work Experience is the same kind of thing.
No it isn't. Work experience, if you mean it as something distinct from actual work for which you should be paid, doesn't involve you actually doing work for the company's benefit and is also for a much shorter time.
Charity jobs also dont pay you.
That's because they're charities - the whole point is that people give them things, whether it's money or time and labour or anything else, out of philanthropy. GOG isn't a charity, it's a for-profit company. (Anyway, any charity except some very small ones will have some paid employees.)
Post edited January 11, 2013 by ydobemos
Posted January 11, 2013
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gameon: Work Experience is the same kind of thing.
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ydobemos: No it isn't. Work experience, if you mean it as something distinct from actual work for which you should be paid, doesn't involve you actually doing work for the company's benefit and is also for a much shorter time.
If you are from the same country, you must have had to do work experience while in secondary school. That was a full week of work (9am-5pm) without pay.
Posted January 11, 2013
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gameon: If you are from the same country, you must have had to do work experience while in secondary school. That was a full week of work (9am-5pm) without pay.
Such schemes only last a week or two, whereas unpaid internships generally last weeks or months, and also (if run properly) differ in organisation and substance. (And in my case it wasn't with a for-profit organisation anyway.)
Posted January 11, 2013
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gameon: If you are from the same country, you must have had to do work experience while in secondary school. That was a full week of work (9am-5pm) without pay.
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ydobemos: Such schemes only last a week or two, whereas unpaid internships generally last weeks or months, and also (if run properly) differ in organisation and substance. (And in my case it wasn't with a for-profit organisation anyway.)
I see, yeah an internship could last as long as they want i guess.

And i do think TET came across as a little bit arrogant by saying it's a job that "isn't worth paying"
Posted January 11, 2013
So you're only interested in people wealthy enough to neither want not need pay for their work?
Posted January 11, 2013
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TheEnigmaticT: We're looking for an intern to set up lights and record video games; it's not really a position that's *worth* paying for.
Wow. Way to make that position sound attractive and make the new intern feel like a valued member of the team.
Posted January 11, 2013
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TheEnigmaticT: We're looking for an intern to set up lights and record video games; it's not really a position that's *worth* paying for.
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spindown: Wow. Way to make that position sound attractive and make the new intern feel like a valued member of the team.
I guess they concluded that the acquired experience, whatever that may be, and references plus a possible priority position when a full or part time position is opened must be sufficient pay for the intern.
Posted January 11, 2013
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TheEnigmaticT: We're looking for an intern to set up lights and record video games; it's not really a position that's *worth* paying for.
If it's not worth paying for, do it yourself.

Damn, you can say such things being a PR manager? Wow... And you get paid!

I didn't have anything against that, if I lived nearby I would apply myself, but DAMN...

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ydobemos: Does Poland have a minimum wage law? If so, is this even legal? It wouldn't be here in the UK (though a lot of employers still get away with it because people don't know their rights or are afraid to enforce them).
It's legal and it's not.

Polish labour law doesn't allow working for free, but in such cases, job contracts are rarely even made (and if there's no job contract, labour laws do not apply). You could go to court and argue that you should get a job contract...

But it's pretty common. It even gets more common. I've seen a "job" offer at local cinema recently. They pay you with... film gadgets and occasionaly free movie tickets...

By the way, intern like in GOG advert is a cool thing you can put in your CV, and maybe even you could think of some smaller job in GOG after some time, but still, seing a blue text, a PR manager, saying that such work isn't worth anything....

I've come up with a new slogan for GOG

GOG is doing their best not to devaulate games. Jobs? That's a different sort of things
Post edited January 11, 2013 by keeveek
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