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N0x0ss: Neither the plot of Wild arms 2 nor 3.... as far as I can tell xD.
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carnival73: I just had an epiphany! I never went crazy - I just went Japanese!
What you've been referrering to, sounds like Final Fantasy XII to me ... (God how I hate this game.)
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carnival73: I just had an epiphany! I never went crazy - I just went Japanese!
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N0x0ss: What you've been referrering to, sounds like Final Fantasy XII to me ... (God how I hate this game.)
Don't you mean X where the protagonist is ripped from a suspended illusion and tossed into a future a real world ravaged by Sin?

And then Nippon's take is demonstrated in ClaDun X2 where in it is not to hide safely away in the illusion but snap on your nuts and stubbornly fight your way through the multiple bordering dungeons to exit into true freedom.

Even though I only played the first hour I suspect this to be the ending of The Legend of GrimRock where in a Draconian and Lawfully Evil society accidentally condemn four convicts to freedom in a better world. (maybe not - but it would follow suit with all of these others stories XD )
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carnival73: Snip
No ^^ X was one of my favorite games EVER.

XII is about a safe world "Cocoon" in the sky. A shell-heaven were people are "protected" form the "harsh" world.
Won't spoil more of the game.
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N0x0ss: No ^^ X was one of my favorite games EVER.

XII is about a safe world "Cocoon" in the sky. A shell-heaven were people are "protected" form the "harsh" world.
Won't spoil more of the game.
Hmm....

FFXII for us over here involved a system where you could use simple programming to program the A.I. of your party members and also featured a Vera (rabbit woman) who was totting around with her human gunslinger boyfriend. She had left her tribe and stopped 'Hearing the wind' like they did (with their big bunny ears) so that she could go on to a life outside of her tribe to be with him.
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N0x0ss: No ^^ X was one of my favorite games EVER.

XII is about a safe world "Cocoon" in the sky. A shell-heaven were people are "protected" form the "harsh" world.
Won't spoil more of the game.
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carnival73: Hmm....

FFXII for us over here involved a system where you could use simple programming to program the A.I. of your party members and also featured a Vera (rabbit woman) who was totting around with her human gunslinger boyfriend. She had left her tribe and stopped 'Hearing the wind' like they did (with their big bunny ears) so that she could go on to a life outside of her tribe to be with him.
Damn tlaking abouth XIII sorry man !! you're right !
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carnival73: Hmm....

FFXII for us over here involved a system where you could use simple programming to program the A.I. of your party members and also featured a Vera (rabbit woman) who was totting around with her human gunslinger boyfriend. She had left her tribe and stopped 'Hearing the wind' like they did (with their big bunny ears) so that she could go on to a life outside of her tribe to be with him.
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N0x0ss: Damn tlaking abouth XIII sorry man !! you're right !
That's cool.....you didn't spoil anything between my mother having been a Gene Rodenberry fan and myself being a Rod Serling fan I can pretty much figure out the ironic plot twist to any reality-conspiracy fiction only five minutes into it. XD

Suprisingly the only story that ever threw me off was The Sixth Sense but I felt that was too obvious of an ending so I didn't bother to calculate in that direction.
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carnival73: Snip
So.. the ending of Red lights took you by surprise ? I saw the movie yesterday.. didn't like the ending at all... felt like it was made in the sole intent of being unpredictable...
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N0x0ss: So.. the ending of Red lights took you by surprise ? I saw the movie yesterday.. didn't like the ending at all... felt like it was made in the sole intent of being unpredictable...
Never heard of it but now that you mention it, I may seek it out.
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For ending plot twists I'd advise the movies Twisted, Lucky Number Sleven, The Usual Suspect, The Negotiator (To a lesser extent), Entrapment and many others that simply don't wanna come to mind right now.

Red lights is a new movie, but it has Robert De Niro in it. It isn't an excellent movie, but the plot was quite good... until it was spoiled by the ending.

One of my favorite movies would have to be "The fracture". No real twists in this one, but really great movie :-). I love Anthony Hopkins.
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N0x0ss: For ending plot twists I'd advise the movies Twisted, Lucky Number Sleven, The Usual Suspect, The Negotiator (To a lesser extent), Entrapment and many others that simply don't wanna come to mind right now.

Red lights is a new movie, but it has Robert De Niro in it. It isn't an excellent movie, but the plot was quite good... until it was spoiled by the ending.

One of my favorite movies would have to be "The fracture". No real twists in this one, but really great movie :-). I love Anthony Hopkins.
The only one I saw from that list is The Usual Suspects - That was pretty funny too, it demonstrated how most 'original' ideas are derivative. XD
Sorry Lou, but I think your haegemonic bias betrays you. We will never agree. I also find your arguments dangerously support continuation of the Arab-Israelli status quo.

Me, I say roll them back to 1967, make the rocket attacks a UN issue, and have Israel payvmajor reparations to the Palestinians, the true native people of the region.

Anyway, that's all I have to say at this time.