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Posted August 11, 2013
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Romanul: "Female gamers are obviously a diverse group. Millions enjoy the shooters, strategy games and other titles favored by "hardcore" enthusiasts."
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RaggieRags: This has been my experience also. I've come across many female gamers and you can't make any generalizations there. They all like different things. Surprise surprise, women are individuals too.

I've been a gamer for 30 years and it never stops to amuse me when someone half my age tries to suggest I'm ruining "his" hobby by "intruding". Goddamn brats, I was playing Ultima Underworld when they were in diapers. How about these entitled kids get out ruining my hobby, and off my lawn, eh? :-P

I was in the minority when I was a kid/teen, but right now there's growing up a new generation which sees gaming as something for everybody. My 12-year-old niece plays a lot on her DS and Wii (a big Super Mario fan there) and from what she says about her friends, girls her age take playing games for granted. I don't think it's ever even occurred to her to think of it as a "boy thing".
The whole idea that games are a "boy" thing seem to be a product of the 90's. When talking to people who have played games for a long time, I get the impression that people viewed it as something for both genders during the 70's & 80's, and that it was not until the 90's that people started to view it as a boy-thing.
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langurmonkey: I agree that society looks down on(sometimes attacks)all introverted people who don't like socializing and like spending their own time by themselves. And yeah, it is more accepted to be a loner guy than a loner woman. But that is because of the nature of women. I believe, that women have a stronger need to socialize with other people compared to men. If you put a man and a woman in prison cells that force them to be alone for 24 hours everyday. I bet, the female will go insane, first. So when a women is living like a hermit, it is only natural to think, she has no choice and then people will look down on her even more than they look down on male hermits. A long time ago, women had to survive by not being ignored...by being well known by everyone so that they can find good men to protect them, hunt for them, build house for them etc. Back then, women weren't able to survive by themselves because of men limiting their freedom and their lack of upper body strength. Back then, a man could rise up with the sword, the axe and the spear. A woman could only rise up by being social...
Do you have any evidence to back this up? Based on the people around me, there seem to be about an equal percentage of introverts among women as there are among men.
Post edited August 11, 2013 by AFnord
Posted August 11, 2013
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RaggieRags: This has been my experience also. I've come across many female gamers and you can't make any generalizations there. They all like different things. Surprise surprise, women are individuals too.

I've been a gamer for 30 years and it never stops to amuse me when someone half my age tries to suggest I'm ruining "his" hobby by "intruding". Goddamn brats, I was playing Ultima Underworld when they were in diapers. How about these entitled kids get out ruining my hobby, and off my lawn, eh? :-P

I was in the minority when I was a kid/teen, but right now there's growing up a new generation which sees gaming as something for everybody. My 12-year-old niece plays a lot on her DS and Wii (a big Super Mario fan there) and from what she says about her friends, girls her age take playing games for granted. I don't think it's ever even occurred to her to think of it as a "boy thing".
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AFnord: The whole idea that games are a "boy" thing seem to be a product of the 90's. When talking to people who have played games for a long time, I get the impression that people viewed it as something for both genders during the 70's & 80's, and that it was not until the 90's that people started to view it as a boy-thing.
Gaming used to be a social activity. Not anymore. Most women enjoy being social. So of course, when gaming goes from Risk and Monopoly to Doom, Blood and Shadow Warrior...
Post edited August 11, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted August 11, 2013
Millions more have eased into the gaming world via social and smartphone games, or through family interactions.
Not surprising, considering how ubiquitous smart phones and tablets are nowadays. That said, "hardcore" gaming is still very much a sausage fest. The number of women on those platforms are definitely growing, but there's still quite a ways to go before the ratio is anywhere near 50/50.
Posted August 11, 2013
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RaggieRags: This has been my experience also. I've come across many female gamers and you can't make any generalizations there. They all like different things. Surprise surprise, women are individuals too.

I've been a gamer for 30 years and it never stops to amuse me when someone half my age tries to suggest I'm ruining "his" hobby by "intruding". Goddamn brats, I was playing Ultima Underworld when they were in diapers. How about these entitled kids get out ruining my hobby, and off my lawn, eh? :-P

I was in the minority when I was a kid/teen, but right now there's growing up a new generation which sees gaming as something for everybody. My 12-year-old niece plays a lot on her DS and Wii (a big Super Mario fan there) and from what she says about her friends, girls her age take playing games for granted. I don't think it's ever even occurred to her to think of it as a "boy thing".
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AFnord: The whole idea that games are a "boy" thing seem to be a product of the 90's. When talking to people who have played games for a long time, I get the impression that people viewed it as something for both genders during the 70's & 80's, and that it was not until the 90's that people started to view it as a boy-thing.
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langurmonkey: I agree that society looks down on(sometimes attacks)all introverted people who don't like socializing and like spending their own time by themselves. And yeah, it is more accepted to be a loner guy than a loner woman. But that is because of the nature of women. I believe, that women have a stronger need to socialize with other people compared to men. If you put a man and a woman in prison cells that force them to be alone for 24 hours everyday. I bet, the female will go insane, first. So when a women is living like a hermit, it is only natural to think, she has no choice and then people will look down on her even more than they look down on male hermits. A long time ago, women had to survive by not being ignored...by being well known by everyone so that they can find good men to protect them, hunt for them, build house for them etc. Back then, women weren't able to survive by themselves because of men limiting their freedom and their lack of upper body strength. Back then, a man could rise up with the sword, the axe and the spear. A woman could only rise up by being social...
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AFnord: Do you have any evidence to back this up? Based on the people around me, there seem to be about an equal percentage of introverts among women as there are among men.
Those women around you, aren't loners. They are introverted women who enjoy being part of society. If they were truly loners, you would not be aware of their existence.

Millions more have eased into the gaming world via social and smartphone games, or through family interactions.
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Hesusio: Not surprising, considering how ubiquitous smart phones and tablets are nowadays. That said, "hardcore" gaming is still very much a sausage fest. The number of women on those platforms are definitely growing, but there's still quite a ways to go before the ratio is anywhere near 50/50.
Anything that = not really socializing with others = sausage fest.
Post edited August 11, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted August 11, 2013
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AFnord: The whole idea that games are a "boy" thing seem to be a product of the 90's. When talking to people who have played games for a long time, I get the impression that people viewed it as something for both genders during the 70's & 80's, and that it was not until the 90's that people started to view it as a boy-thing.
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langurmonkey: Gaming used to be a social activity. Not anymore. Most women enjoy being social. So of course, when gaming goes from Risk and Monopoly to Doom, Blood and Shadow Warrior...
Most men also enjoy being social. I have seen no real evidence of women being significantly more social or there being a significantly lower amount of introvert women than men.
And also, I was obviously talking about video games, not boardgames, so a more apt thing would be to say "When gaming goes from Ultima 4, Pac-man & Super Mario Bros to Doom, Blood and Shadow Warrior".
Posted August 11, 2013
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Romanul: In RL where I live, there are no women (that I know of )interested in games. There's one I know that plays solitaire and another that used to play farmville but those don't count in my book.
I know two female friends who used to play Zelda and one of them used to play Tekken, Mario and other retro stuff back then.

But I don't know any woman personally who plays nowadays video games. (besides those lame facebook-games and stuff, I mean games on console or PC)
Post edited August 11, 2013 by Filben
Posted August 11, 2013
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AFnord: The whole idea that games are a "boy" thing seem to be a product of the 90's. When talking to people who have played games for a long time, I get the impression that people viewed it as something for both genders during the 70's & 80's, and that it was not until the 90's that people started to view it as a boy-thing.
I think so too. I used to know a lot of girls who owned the original Nintendo.

People these days think gaming has always been a thing for young males, but that's really the audience brought in by the first PlayStation. Before that, there was a large gaming audience of adults playing with the PC, and children playing with consoles. The audience we nowadays think of the "core" gaming group was just one segment of gamers. Young males just take catering for them so much for granted they easily feel scandalized if they are no longer treated as the center of the universe.
Posted August 11, 2013
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langurmonkey: Gaming used to be a social activity. Not anymore. Most women enjoy being social. So of course, when gaming goes from Risk and Monopoly to Doom, Blood and Shadow Warrior...
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AFnord: Most men also enjoy being social. I have seen no real evidence of women being significantly more social or there being a significantly lower amount of introvert women than men.
And also, I was obviously talking about video games, not boardgames, so a more apt thing would be to say "When gaming goes from Ultima 4, Pac-man & Super Mario Bros to Doom, Blood and Shadow Warrior".
Most men enjoy being social but can live with not being social. The evidence is out there for everyone to see. Women and men are different. Women and men also have different backgrounds when it comes to history. Men and women, will never be the same.
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Romanul: In RL where I live, there are no women (that I know of )interested in games. There's one I know that plays solitaire and another that used to play farmville but those don't count in my book.
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Filben: I know two female friends who used to play Zelda and one of them used to play Tekken, Mario and other retro stuff back then.

But I don't know any woman personally who plays nowadays video games. (besides those lame facebook-games and stuff, I mean games on console or PC)
Well of course. The majority of video games went from something everyone can enjoy, the games that suck balls in my opinion to games catering to males only especially males with no life(time consuming game play, lots of violence and sexual content appealing only to males).
Post edited August 11, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted August 11, 2013
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tinyE: Did the article mention what percentage of gamers are transsexuals? cross dressers? Licurg?
And that's when the fight started! LOL
Posted August 11, 2013
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tinyE: Did the article mention what percentage of gamers are transsexuals? cross dressers? Licurg?
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51nikopol: And that's when the fight started! LOL
If only ONE person laughs, then I have done my job. :D
Posted August 11, 2013
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langurmonkey: Women and men are different.
All women are different from other women, like all men are different from other men. People are individuals. Gender is just one of attribute that makes a person. It's not like humanity consists of two different types of people.
Posted August 11, 2013
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sanscript: Maybe this will redeem myself for bringing up that cat thing. Unless the joker gives you nightmares :D
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Fenixp: I'm fairly sure that female is sexist and is objectifying herself.
You mean her in particular, or the female sex in general?

In all the millennia that the humans have existed, the female "usually" have always been the most sexist, i.e, the art of seduction and courtesans have always been in their court yard, and some had way more power than earlier believed. When compared to (unless I stood up on my wrong foot today) some/few other mammals, we see much the same tendency.

Just see the explosion on the internet on how women of all ages are exposing themselves. However, is that because of;

A: It`s a completely normal evolutionary behavior (holy internet), in which we should allow courtesans (or escorts), because that makes the whole "wheel" to spin, sort of. (Some economists/psychologists gave suggested that this type of work actually stimulate the economy, among other things, not to mention thousands of thousands of both men and women that are isolating themselves in front of a computer with just a keyboard. And more frequently; using a webcam.) In any case, people should choose for themselves. Wisdom never comes before experience.

B: There are more men behind the majority of the computers/server/services running the internet in general. Again the computer/science skill were mainly a man thing, until it was considered to be more socially accepted for women to take higher education, and further, not to rely on the families fortune to pay for their education.

C: *...and by now I managed to sidetrack myself* :D


* About the article:
I believe the late-ish 90s kinda went mirror darkly on everything. It got more important again label what boys and girls do and do not. Hacking were now considered to be a boyish criminal behavior and hunted down at all cost (read mitnick). From hero to outlaw. And only boys played Asteroid, Mortal Kombat, Zelda, Golden Axe, Sonic, Mario and DOOM, as portrayed in the media.

Those number can lie. Some likes ponies and some likes BLOOD :D
But as languarmoneky wrote; "Equality doesn't (always) work when it comes to entertainment". We are after all wired differently.

Oh yeah, race segregation and feminism are two sides of the axes of evil... the feminism are ruining everything in this society... :p



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tinyE: Did the article mention what percentage of gamers are transsexuals? cross dressers? Licurg?
LOL. Good. One should always include every side... :p
Posted August 11, 2013
now if we could just stamp out the hatred and sexism towards female players it would help no end.
spend over an hour trying to escalate a complaint the other day and got nowhere! ><
Posted August 11, 2013
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langurmonkey: Women and men are different.
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RaggieRags: All women are different from other women, like all men are different from other men. People are individuals. Gender is just one of attribute that makes a person. It's not like humanity consists of two different types of people.
There are many things you can say about all women and all men due to our bodies, what is inside our bodies and our history. Our history has programmed male humans and female humans to survive, to be a certain way. Humans are not as complicated and different from each other as you think. Of course, most people like to feel special and think of the people in their life as special so...most people will disagree with this post, I think.
Post edited August 11, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted August 11, 2013
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RaggieRags: All women are different from other women, like all men are different from other men. People are individuals. Gender is just one of attribute that makes a person. It's not like humanity consists of two different types of people.
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langurmonkey: There are many things you can say about all women and all men due to our bodies, what is inside our bodies and our history.
Physical stuff, mostly yes. What comes to our past, no human has the same experiences as any other.
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