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In May 2011, Demjanjuk was sentenced to five years of prison for the assistance in the murder of 28,060 jews in the Vernichtungslager Sobibor. Demjanjuk was confused for Nazi top criminal Ivan der Schreckliche and sentenced to death in Israel 1988, but later this was overruled by the Supreme Court of Israel. It was proven that Ivan der Schreckliche was Ivan Martschenko and not identical with Ivan "John" Demjanjuk. Martschenko is said to have died in 1943, but I personally have doubts about that (as well as about Aribert Heim's death in 1992). In my opinion Martschenko was able to flee and live freely after the war. Still this doesn't diminish Demjanjuk's guilt.

There is one particularly dark cloud about a murder that occured in 1947, where Demjanjuk was the main suspect.
On 20th August 1947, Moshe Lisogorski was killed in a road accident at the Boelke-Kaserne near Ulm, the Kaserne was an US American barracks at that time. A truck driver drove over Lisogorski, killing him thereby.
Historian Christof Maihoefer and the Staatsanwaltschaft Ulm (prosecution in Ulm) reviewed the case since a few years. Maihoefer came to the conclusion that the truck driver was John Demjanjuk, who on purpose drove over Lisogorski.
With the death of Demjanjuk, the Lisogorski mystery will remain unsolved.
I don't say this about many people who die, but I hope he died a painful death.
I'm going to leave this article about him here. Personally I think this case isn't as cut and dried as one might think.

Fun fact: Demjanjuk was tried in Israeli Supreme Court and released - a place that is known as a tough crowd.
Funny thing: The Israeli Supreme Court decided to let Ivan Demjanjuk walk.

The horribly funny thing — not to the Israelis, many of whom had doubts about prosecuting Demjanjuk from the start — was that some of the evidence that led to his release in 1993 had come to light years before and was withheld from the Israelis by the American government — the Office of Special Investigations of the Department of Justice, the very same cadre of Nazi hunters who had urged Israel to charge him with being Ivan the Terrible
Post edited March 17, 2012 by michaelleung
It's never even been proven that he was a war criminal.

He may just have been a camp guard.
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michaelleung: I'm going to leave this article about him here. Personally I think this case isn't as cut and dried as one might think.
The thing that strikes most is the five years he got. You'd expect him to get the maximum sentence (15 years). Also, there were strange things with KGB stuff.

But then, he did not deliberately choose to become a mass murderer. He was recruited as a Trawniki and then willingly helped for a few advantages.
Post edited March 17, 2012 by Protoss
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michaelleung: I'm going to leave this article about him here. Personally I think this case isn't as cut and dried as one might think.
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Protoss: The thing that strikes most is the five years he got. You'd expect him to get the maximum sentence (15 years). Also, there were strange things with KGB stuff.

But then, he did not deliberately choose to become a mass murderer. He was recruited as a Trawniki and then willingly helped for a few advantages.
When your new boss are literally Nazis, I think most of us would help them for a few advantages. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but I think it's understandable.
Post edited March 17, 2012 by michaelleung
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stonebro: It's never even been proven that he was a war criminal.

He may just have been a camp guard.
Since when is there a difference?
Demjanjuk? That guy's a fairy next to XmXFLUXmX.
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stonebro: It's never even been proven that he was a war criminal.

He may just have been a camp guard.
camp guard = war criminal.
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stonebro: It's never even been proven that he was a war criminal.

He may just have been a camp guard.
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SimonG: Since when is there a difference?
There isn't one. Sure you didn't actually kill the people, but herding them like sheep into camps, doing nothing whatsoever whilst entire families die, get tortured, raped, humiliated and ground into nothingness makes you much of a monster as the people who pulled the trigger.

and for what?? I'd rather die.
GOG.com
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FraterPerdurabo: Demjanjuk? That guy's a fairy next to XmXFLUXmX.
He'll probably come in here and call us Jew-haters who don't believe in a Jewish state and left-wing extremists or whatever.
I don't know, this is probably going to be unpopular, but if we haven't managed to punish and ascertain this guy's guilt by now, is it really worthwhile to seek vengeance at this point? I mean, he wasn't going around spreading the Nazi message or anything, right?

I've never liked vengeance based justice and this almost seems pathological on society's part at this point.
There is a reason why crimes against humanity are never expired / lapsed

By the way, your govt. is still hunting on Polanski for a crime he commited 28 of years ago even though the victim already "forgave" him.
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stonebro: It's never even been proven that he was a war criminal.

He may just have been a camp guard.
lol