Posted June 07, 2013
fortune_p_dawg
constipationisbad
Registered: Aug 2011
From United States
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nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Grufferscratch
Registered: Nov 2010
From United States
Posted June 07, 2013
Their house, their rules. Based on the conversation so far, I can't imagine you delivering a convincing counter-argument to them. Store the games at a trusted friend's house in the meanwhile. Honestly, there are plenty of other things to do besides games. Good luck.
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New User
Registered: Jul 2011
From United States
Posted June 07, 2013
As a few others have said, Your parents get to set the rules. You have the option to abide by them, break them and face the consequences, or support yourself in a place where you get to make the rules (note, many places have rules of different varieties). If you can't afford or are not able to move out... that doesn't change your options.
I would also add, that if your parents didn't care for you, they likely wouldn't try to enforce their belief system on you. Think carefully when you decide how you want to proceed. Some things aren't worth the ability to play a video game.
I would also add, that if your parents didn't care for you, they likely wouldn't try to enforce their belief system on you. Think carefully when you decide how you want to proceed. Some things aren't worth the ability to play a video game.
Bad Hair Day
Find me in STEAM OT
Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted June 07, 2013
I have beaten three life threatening illnesses in the past fifteen years due I large part to gaming. While that is God's truth something tells me there is no way in hell your family (or anyone in here) is going to believe that so.....well shit....why the hell am I posting this?
Maybe your father does have a point. Maybe this stuff does rot the brain.
Better yet, show them this.
Maybe your father does have a point. Maybe this stuff does rot the brain.
Better yet, show them this.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by tinyE
tfishell
Remorse: The List, if you like FPS psych horror
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
Posted June 07, 2013
If you had seen my last thread about system shock 2(I really enjoyed that game and still am). Everyone that participated in that thread was really nice so thank you. So this is why I'm here, my parents are pacifists (because of there religion). I am not really in to their religion but I go to church to make them happy. So I was playing a video game on my ps2 (Project Snow blind it rated T) and my mom walked in and started crying. Then when my dad came down stairs he asked why my mom was crying and she told him that it was that I was playing "evil video games" (violent ones). then when my mom walked out my dad started lecturing me on how video games hurt my spirit and how that my "future wife" will not like it when I play them. Then he told me to throw all of the video games that have violence in them away (I have 21 of them on ps2 I collected them over the past 3 years and got most of them from my cousin). I don't wan't to throw them away so what do I do.
PS. I am 16 years old turning 17 in July
PPS. I can't legally move out of the house until I'm 18.
Truth is, while you're at your parents house, I believe that you need to be respectful to their decisions because you are underage and on their property, and they do seem to genuinely care about you (I assume they don't beat you and stuff like that :P). That said, one can argue there is still a place for "civil disobedience"; rather than throw them away, try to find a place to store them until you can move out of the house, like at a friend's house like Licurg suggested or some other place. I don't know to what extent your parents will listen to your opinions, but say something like, "I'm getting older and am branching out into making my own decisions. I will stop playing violent video games for the time being on your property, but I will not throw out these games because when I am old enough to make my own decisions, I may want to play them on my own property."
timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted June 07, 2013
Or failing that, alternatively: "Don't worry dad, I am not straight.".
Or you could try to relate to your father too: "Do you speak from experience? Did mother really do that to you? I'm so sorry to hear, dad!". Works for watching pr0n too!
Post edited June 07, 2013 by timppu
sauvignon1
Yellow Jester
Registered: May 2010
From United States
Posted June 07, 2013
@('_')@
Registered: Sep 2012
From United States
Posted June 07, 2013
If you had seen my last thread about system shock 2(I really enjoyed that game and still am). Everyone that participated in that thread was really nice so thank you. So this is why I'm here, my parents are pacifists (because of there religion). I am not really in to their religion but I go to church to make them happy. So I was playing a video game on my ps2 (Project Snow blind it rated T) and my mom walked in and started crying. Then when my dad came down stairs he asked why my mom was crying and she told him that it was that I was playing "evil video games" (violent ones). then when my mom walked out my dad started lecturing me on how video games hurt my spirit and how that my "future wife" will not like it when I play them. Then he told me to throw all of the video games that have violence in them away (I have 21 of them on ps2 I collected them over the past 3 years and got most of them from my cousin). I don't wan't to throw them away so what do I do.
PS. I am 16 years old turning 17 in July
PPS. I can't legally move out of the house until I'm 18.
They shouldn't be trying to force their beliefs on you. That is fucked up. My advice is to tell them you are going to stop. Do exactly what your Dad told you to do. Then continue playing violent video games but in secret. When they are around, play non violent video games. When they are out of the house, play whatever you want. Then move out as soon as possible. I'm against hiding things from people but your parents leave you no choice. They will obviously make your life hell for the next 2 years if you continue to play violent video games in front of them. And can you live the next 2 years without violence in your games? I don't think so.
PS
In order to follow my advice, you are going to have to go 100% digital and become a PC gamer when it comes to violent games. You are also going to have to lock the door to your room whenever you are gaming. And TELL NOBODY about this. You don't want the possibility of a friend or another family member snitching on you. Some more advice to help you not get caught, when you are playing your violent games, play lets play videos of non violent games with the volume raised high while you play your violent games with the volume off. Because obviously, if your parents hear AK-47 and explosion sounds, they aren't going to think, oh my son is playing Sims 3.
Tell them that violence in gaming is not equivalent to real violence, and show them how violence in games has taught you that violence in real life is a bad thing (I hope it has!)
You may need to strike a compromise with them, because you are in their house. How about assuring them that you will not play these games in their house again, but for that you will not throw them away?
As for the 'future wife', I would remind them that it is not their place to say what your 'future wife' will like and won't like. That's for you and her to decide.
So best thing to do, is "YES MOM, YES DAD, you are both right", play violent games behind their backs, move the fuck out when you are 18.
OR ignore everything I just wrote and be a good little slave. Be the person they want you to be. Every path has it's PROs and CONs. Rebels usually get less financial support or nothing from their parents. And life is fucking hard without parents helping you out.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by langurmonkey
_ChaosFox_
Zero fox given.
Registered: Nov 2008
From Germany
Posted June 07, 2013
So best thing to do, is "YES MOM, YES DAD, you are both right", play violent games behind their backs, move the fuck out when you are 18.
OR ignore everything I just wrote and be a good little slave. Be the person they want you to be. Every path has it's PROs and CONs.
The kid's nearly 17 years old. He needs to demonstrate that he is capable of mature, reasonable thought. If his parents reject that, then the kid needs to do something about that.
@('_')@
Registered: Sep 2012
From United States
Posted June 07, 2013
So best thing to do, is "YES MOM, YES DAD, you are both right", play violent games behind their backs, move the fuck out when you are 18.
OR ignore everything I just wrote and be a good little slave. Be the person they want you to be. Every path has it's PROs and CONs.
The kid's nearly 17 years old. He needs to demonstrate that he is capable of mature, reasonable thought. If his parents reject that, then the kid needs to do something about that.
Starmaker
go Clarice!
Registered: Sep 2010
From Russian Federation
Posted June 07, 2013
Dude.
First, I feel for you. Even Russia is not as fucked up as the US where children's rights are concerned, and we'd rather let orphans die than let them be infected with "teh gay".
Hide the physical games at a friend's place, or, depending on how large your own place is and how compact the games are (and how often your parents search your room...), at your own. No need to lose them.
Pirate the games you already own, or use noCDs, or whatever. Don't risk physical copies unless absolutely necessary.
Buy digital, play discreetly (I assume you have some pocket money).
Play less violent games. Perhaps your parents think all games are a tool of Satan. Play something blatantly cute and fluffy; I'm sure there are quite a number of cute and fluffy games that are at the same time substantially interesting/hardcore. I used to watch Dora the Explorer ironically; if a roomful of 25+ yr. old dudes can clap their hands and jump up and down and whatnot to try to sabotage Dora's televised adventure, you can do it.
If they bite or already think there are some games that are not tools of Satan, consult with them regarding your choice of future games; pretend to let them vet your questionable purchases, pretend you're going along and are genuinely concerned about the games' influence on you and rely on their parental experience. If you do it, be as sincere as possible; imagine if you're asking a friend if the game is any good.
Discover old(er), less graphic games (!= less violent). Your parents won't necessarily know you're murdering civilians if civilians are three pixels tall.
Remember, if the problem with moving out is that you're too young to move, not that you don't have anywhere to move except a cardboard box, things will get better, and soon.
Finally, almost 50% of all video gamers are women, and even though quite a number of them are casuals, your parents won't necessarily know the difference, so cite that statistic. It's accurate.
First, I feel for you. Even Russia is not as fucked up as the US where children's rights are concerned, and we'd rather let orphans die than let them be infected with "teh gay".
Hide the physical games at a friend's place, or, depending on how large your own place is and how compact the games are (and how often your parents search your room...), at your own. No need to lose them.
Pirate the games you already own, or use noCDs, or whatever. Don't risk physical copies unless absolutely necessary.
Buy digital, play discreetly (I assume you have some pocket money).
Play less violent games. Perhaps your parents think all games are a tool of Satan. Play something blatantly cute and fluffy; I'm sure there are quite a number of cute and fluffy games that are at the same time substantially interesting/hardcore. I used to watch Dora the Explorer ironically; if a roomful of 25+ yr. old dudes can clap their hands and jump up and down and whatnot to try to sabotage Dora's televised adventure, you can do it.
If they bite or already think there are some games that are not tools of Satan, consult with them regarding your choice of future games; pretend to let them vet your questionable purchases, pretend you're going along and are genuinely concerned about the games' influence on you and rely on their parental experience. If you do it, be as sincere as possible; imagine if you're asking a friend if the game is any good.
Discover old(er), less graphic games (!= less violent). Your parents won't necessarily know you're murdering civilians if civilians are three pixels tall.
Remember, if the problem with moving out is that you're too young to move, not that you don't have anywhere to move except a cardboard box, things will get better, and soon.
Finally, almost 50% of all video gamers are women, and even though quite a number of them are casuals, your parents won't necessarily know the difference, so cite that statistic. It's accurate.
_ChaosFox_
Zero fox given.
Registered: Nov 2008
From Germany
Posted June 07, 2013
If the father doesn't want him to play the games in the house, that's fine. It is the parents' house after all and this rule he has to abide by. But the problem here goes much deeper. The parents are trying to dictate the opinions and religion of a 16-year-old boy, and no matter what country you're from, that's just wrong.
@('_')@
Registered: Sep 2012
From United States
Posted June 07, 2013
If the father doesn't want him to play the games in the house, that's fine. It is the parents' house after all and this rule he has to abide by. But the problem here goes much deeper. The parents are trying to dictate the opinions and religion of a 16-year-old boy, and no matter what country you're from, that's just wrong.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by langurmonkey
Arianus.836
Flooopzzz.......
Registered: May 2010
From United States
Posted June 07, 2013
All the ones with violence give them to your cousin, when you are 18+ move out and play what you want. Until then your parents pay for your food, house you, and clothes so obey there rules in there house. It sucks but problem solved.
If you intend to keep playing games invest in a PSVita or a Nintendo 3DS so that you can play violent video games but your parents just don't have to see it. Nine times out of Ten if they don't see it they won't have an opinion on it.
If you intend to keep playing games invest in a PSVita or a Nintendo 3DS so that you can play violent video games but your parents just don't have to see it. Nine times out of Ten if they don't see it they won't have an opinion on it.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by Arianus