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JTD121: Only read the OP and a couple later posts, but here is my advice to you.

Like Gazoinks said, you should look into this stuff. Just to have some, I guess, middle ground in which to talk with her.

Granted, I love me a good story involving such secret puppet master entities, I do not believe they have such great power as they do in stories about them. Maybe they do, I've no idea.

I'm sure there is some way to convince her otherwise, that they (secret global cults) are either fabricated, or do exist, but not in the way she seems to believe.....

Hey, maybe you will get your first chance to use your political debating skillz!!

EDIT: JudasIscariot, I hope your GF is bat-shit hot to go along with the bat-shit (even if temporary) crazy ;) Pics or it didn't happen!
Well, she is pretty hot and she cooks pretty well...guess I'll keep her :P

Also, I managed to convince with the POWER OF SCIENCE that her theory has been disproven...whew.
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Psyringe: I was not asking for a link, I was asking for answers. So far you haven't provided any. So? :)
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Licurg: Why write a 50-60 line reply when reading that link i just gave you has all the answers and references you need?
Look, I have asked very specific questions. If you cannot answer them, then linking to a 30k text document is not an answer, it's a cop-out. If the answers are really contained in that document (so far I haven't found them), then please tell me where exactly. So far, what I have found in this document, is a lot of anecdotal evidence, some studies which are claimed to be scientific without giving me much opportunity to check it, and a pretty one-sided approach of collecting information.

So, I'm still waiting for the answers. Mind, the questions I asked are by no means outrageous or special. These are very basic questions that every single scientist has to answer if he wants to have any hope of being taken seriously (and for good reason).
Post edited May 18, 2012 by Psyringe
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Licurg: Why write a 50-60 line reply when reading that link i just gave you has all the answers and references you need?
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Psyringe: Look, I have asked very specific questions. If you cannot answer them, then linking to a 30k text document is not an answer, it's a cop-out. If the answers are really contained in that document (so far I haven't found them), then please tell me where exactly. So far, what I have found in this document, is a lot of anecdotal evidence, some studies which are claimed to be scientific without giving me much opportunity to check it, and a pretty one-sided approach of collecting information.

So, I'm still waiting for the answers. Mind, the questions I asked are by no means outrageous or special. These are very basic questions that every single scientist has to answer if he wants to have any hope of being taken seriously (and for good reason).
So are you a skeptic about monsanto doing this? you don't think they will monopolize food with these expirements
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Elmofongo: So are you a skeptic about monsanto doing this? you don't think they will monopolize food with these expirements
Rule #1 on journalism and science is to assume your first source is lying.
I don't care what the "report" is, I want verification from 2 independant sources. So far 1 has been linked, if a second appears that is independant of the first, I would take a look. If all reports are derived from the initial, my "Bullshit" sense will be toggled.
Doesn't matter the topic, doesn't matter the field, unless you have very good reason to trust your source, assume the first source is lying.
one thing that drives me crazy is when someone says that I'm a satanist because I play D&D.I guess I'm not the only one in this site
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Elmofongo: So are you a skeptic about monsanto doing this? you don't think they will monopolize food with these expirements
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JMich: Rule #1 on journalism and science is to assume your first source is lying.
I don't care what the "report" is, I want verification from 2 independant sources. So far 1 has been linked, if a second appears that is independant of the first, I would take a look. If all reports are derived from the initial, my "Bullshit" sense will be toggled.
Doesn't matter the topic, doesn't matter the field, unless you have very good reason to trust your source, assume the first source is lying.
Fancinating insight my friend, thank you for telling me this.
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JTD121: EDIT: JudasIscariot, I hope your GF is bat-shit hot to go along with the bat-shit (even if temporary) crazy ;) Pics or it didn't happen!
No masturbation material begging here... ;)
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l0rdtr3k: one thing that drives me crazy is when someone says that I'm a satanist because I play D&D.I guess I'm not the only one in this site
I thought that whole "D&D is the devil" thing died with the 80's and early 90's. Are you telling me that people STILL believe that?

Also, I have seen some crazy conspiracy theories on the gazeta.pl comments section :/
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l0rdtr3k: one thing that drives me crazy is when someone says that I'm a satanist because I play D&D.I guess I'm not the only one in this site
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JudasIscariot: I thought that whole "D&D is the devil" thing died with the 80's and early 90's. Are you telling me that people STILL believe that?

Also, I have seen some crazy conspiracy theories on the gazeta.pl comments section :/
Speaking of D&D, you guys don't how hilariously wrong this woman is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Pulling
yep.all thanks to the universal church of the kingdom of God.really it's insane how much people believe that D&D is evil,some even say that Gary Gygax is an illuminatti,no joke.
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l0rdtr3k: one thing that drives me crazy is when someone says that I'm a satanist because I play D&D.I guess I'm not the only one in this site
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JudasIscariot: I thought that whole "D&D is the devil" thing died with the 80's and early 90's. Are you telling me that people STILL believe that?

Also, I have seen some crazy conspiracy theories on the gazeta.pl comments section :/
Post edited May 18, 2012 by l0rdtr3k
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l0rdtr3k: yep.all thanks to the universal church of the kingdom of God.really it's insane how much people believe that D&D is evil,some even say that Gary Gygax is an illuminatti,no joke.
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JudasIscariot: I thought that whole "D&D is the devil" thing died with the 80's and early 90's. Are you telling me that people STILL believe that?

Also, I have seen some crazy conspiracy theories on the gazeta.pl comments section :/
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l0rdtr3k:
It's like I stepped into the Wayback Machine and returned to the US of the 1980's :P
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Elmofongo: So are you a skeptic about monsanto doing this? you don't think they will monopolize food with these expirements
Of course Monsanto is trying to increase their market share. I also think there's been enough evidence that they don't let ethical considerations stop them. Monsanto is also powerful enough to stretch or circumvent many laws that are meant to keep them in check.

However, there's a difference between "powerful, largely unethical food monopolist with aggressive lobbying and questionable methods", and "secret conspiracy to take over the world through food".

All that is not relevant to my questions though, and in fact it _must not_ be relevant to them. Scientific integrity consists of working thoroughly, reliably, giving full accounts, and doing so independently of one's own thoughts about the bigger picture.
ow yeah.Patricia Pulling and the BADD.I laugh like there was no tomorrow when I read this article.how about Dark Dungeons from Jack Chick.
link:http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp
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JudasIscariot: I thought that whole "D&D is the devil" thing died with the 80's and early 90's. Are you telling me that people STILL believe that?

Also, I have seen some crazy conspiracy theories on the gazeta.pl comments section :/
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Elmofongo: Speaking of D&D, you guys don't how hilariously wrong this woman is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Pulling
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Elmofongo: So are you a skeptic about monsanto doing this? you don't think they will monopolize food with these expirements
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Psyringe: Of course Monsanto is trying to increase their market share. I also think there's been enough evidence that they don't let ethical considerations stop them. Monsanto is also powerful enough to stretch or circumvent many laws that are meant to keep them in check.

However, there's a difference between "powerful, largely unethical food monopolist with aggressive lobbying and questionable methods", and "secret conspiracy to take over the world through food".

All that is not relevant to my questions though, and in fact it _must not_ be relevant to them. Scientific integrity consists of working thoroughly, reliably, giving full accounts, and doing so independently of one's own thoughts about the bigger picture.
Read this(i found a shorter article, just for you:)



http://www.responsibletechnology.org/docs/119.pdf
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Elmofongo: So are you a skeptic about monsanto doing this? you don't think they will monopolize food with these expirements
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Psyringe: Of course Monsanto is trying to increase their market share. I also think there's been enough evidence that they don't let ethical considerations stop them. Monsanto is also powerful enough to stretch or circumvent many laws that are meant to keep them in check.

However, there's a difference between "powerful, largely unethical food monopolist with aggressive lobbying and questionable methods", and "secret conspiracy to take over the world through food".

All that is not relevant to my questions though, and in fact it _must not_ be relevant to them. Scientific integrity consists of working thoroughly, reliably, giving full accounts, and doing so independently of one's own thoughts about the bigger picture.
why would government accept lobby money under these conditions, monopolizing food to which the food itself is unhealthy is government really that stupid have they no ethics grrr I cannot wait for these old people in government to die so true smart and good people will take their place
Post edited May 18, 2012 by Elmofongo