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Elmofongo: ok what does TLDR mean i'm still new to internet lingos
Too Long Didn't Read

EDIT - Ninja'd!
Post edited May 18, 2012 by cogadh
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mrtophat101: Can't believe he actually worked for the BBC. Quite respectable for a nutcase. ;p
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cogadh: To be fair, he didn't start out as a nutcase, he started as a sports reporter on the BBC, then later turned into a nutcase.
To much footballs to the face. :P
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spindown: Very strange mother, my mother. Very strange, yes.
I'm going to take random guess how I think how crazy your mother could be:

does she think obama is a lizardman after hearing obama said the word "Reptillian Brain" in an interview with Oprea?
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Elmofongo: Ok long story short: my mother truly believes the Illuminati,NWO,Zionist whetever controls the world as we speak because she was reading bullshit made from trolls on youtube and what not and it's starting to drive me crazy she went as far as saying these secret societies has something to do with Hitler and she also said that since I'm going to study politics I should get into this stuff she was seeing even though this is not Political Science it's Bullshit Conspiracy theories
If your mother is a fanatic who can't be reasoned with in that regard, then it's probably best to ignore the matter. Otherwise there'd be a risk that she ends up convinced that your thoughts are controlled by "them" (tm), nd that doesn't bode well for your family life.

If she's open to discussion, then you can try to shake her faith in the conspiracy theorists. The best way to achieve this is usually to discuss trustworthiness of sources, ease of faking evidence, the scientific method, and reliability of "peer-reviewed science" vs. "purported quotes of authoritative figures". Once a conspiracy theorist has realized that it's much easier to create a fake conspiracy theory as it is to create an actual conspiracy, he/she has a harder time justifying their belief in something that stands on very shaky grounds. It's possible to convince people this way that conspiracy theories are, well, just conspiracy theories - but it's _a lot_ of work, and quite difficult.

The main advice I can give you is to not present science as a monolithic truth (if you do that, then any discussion just degrades into a battle of beliefs), but to instead explore, together with the conspiracy theorist, ways of reasoning and their reliability.
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spindown: Very strange mother, my mother. Very strange, yes.
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Elmofongo: I'm going to take random guess how I think how crazy your mother could be:

does she think obama is a lizardman after hearing obama said the word "Reptillian Brain" in an interview with Oprea?
Actually, Obama is a Socialist Gay Loving White Hating Lizard.

We all know that. Right guys?
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Elmofongo: I'm going to take random guess how I think how crazy your mother could be:

does she think obama is a lizardman after hearing obama said the word "Reptillian Brain" in an interview with Oprea?
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mrtophat101: Actually, Obama is a Socialist Gay Loving White Hating Lizard.

We all know that. Right guys?
What? I thought he was a Zorgon from the Gleeblebrox dimension.

Also, as far as dealing with the issue, Psyringe's probably got the best advice.
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Elmofongo: I'm going to take random guess how I think how crazy your mother could be:

does she think obama is a lizardman after hearing obama said the word "Reptillian Brain" in an interview with Oprea?
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mrtophat101: Actually, Obama is a Socialist Gay Loving White Hating Lizard.

We all know that. Right guys?
who is also being controlled by some from the grave named Saul Alinsky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtLEPPgbNyM
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Elmofongo: Ok long story short: my mother truly believes the Illuminati,NWO,Zionist whetever controls the world as we speak because she was reading bullshit made from trolls on youtube and what not and it's starting to drive me crazy she went as far as saying these secret societies has something to do with Hitler and she also said that since I'm going to study politics I should get into this stuff she was seeing even though this is not Political Science it's Bullshit Conspiracy theories
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Psyringe: If your mother is a fanatic who can't be reasoned with in that regard, then it's probably best to ignore the matter. Otherwise there'd be a risk that she ends up convinced that your thoughts are controlled by "them" (tm), nd that doesn't bode well for your family life.

If she's open to discussion, then you can try to shake her faith in the conspiracy theorists. The best way to achieve this is usually to discuss trustworthiness of sources, ease of faking evidence, the scientific method, and reliability of "peer-reviewed science" vs. "purported quotes of authoritative figures". Once a conspiracy theorist has realized that it's much easier to create a fake conspiracy theory as it is to create an actual conspiracy, he/she has a harder time justifying their belief in something that stands on very shaky grounds. It's possible to convince people this way that conspiracy theories are, well, just conspiracy theories - but it's _a lot_ of work, and quite difficult.

The main advice I can give you is to not present science as a monolithic truth (if you do that, then any discussion just degrades into a battle of beliefs), but to instead explore, together with the conspiracy theorist, ways of reasoning and their reliability.
Well luckily she is not completely insane I think she is just confused and a little scared
Post edited May 18, 2012 by Elmofongo
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JudasIscariot: My GF drives me crazy when she starts talking about this shadow planet that supposedly hides from our telescopes and it's supposed to be on the same orbit as Earth and that the inhabitants are evil and they feed on our collective negative emotions....

What ze FAK?
Argh, Cybermen!
My gut instinct would be to fight fire with fire - feed the person in question progressively more ridiculous stories until they start conflicting with each other and everything else, causing the believer to either rethink everything or go insane ;P.
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mrtophat101: Actually, Obama is a Socialist Gay Loving White Hating Lizard.

We all know that. Right guys?
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Elmofongo: who is also being controlled by some from the grave named Saul Alinsky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtLEPPgbNyM
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Psyringe: If your mother is a fanatic who can't be reasoned with in that regard, then it's probably best to ignore the matter. Otherwise there'd be a risk that she ends up convinced that your thoughts are controlled by "them" (tm), nd that doesn't bode well for your family life.

If she's open to discussion, then you can try to shake her faith in the conspiracy theorists. The best way to achieve this is usually to discuss trustworthiness of sources, ease of faking evidence, the scientific method, and reliability of "peer-reviewed science" vs. "purported quotes of authoritative figures". Once a conspiracy theorist has realized that it's much easier to create a fake conspiracy theory as it is to create an actual conspiracy, he/she has a harder time justifying their belief in something that stands on very shaky grounds. It's possible to convince people this way that conspiracy theories are, well, just conspiracy theories - but it's _a lot_ of work, and quite difficult.

The main advice I can give you is to not present science as a monolithic truth (if you do that, then any discussion just degrades into a battle of beliefs), but to instead explore, together with the conspiracy theorist, ways of reasoning and their reliability.
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Elmofongo: Well luckily she is not completely insane I think she is just confused and a little scared
Brilliant!

All hail Saul Alinsky!
Post edited May 18, 2012 by mrtophat101
I like talking to these "on the fly" fanatics, primarily because I like shattering their quickly constructed web of insanity. It's simple, first you need to talk them into complacency, like you're a believer or something, and then let them talk themselves into a corner. The eventual sledgehammer will not break their believes, as you can't talk brains into these guys no matter how good you are, but you will make them study the subject a bit more, and perhaps make them think for themselves for a change.
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Leroux: OMG, is this true? That would explain a lot! I need to spread the word to my friends and family, maybe I can convince someone to study Astronomy and look into this stuff!
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JudasIscariot: It sounds like a bad Star Trek episode...
There is no such thing as a bad Star Trek episode...
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Elmofongo: Ok long story short: my mother truly believes the Illuminati,NWO,Zionist whetever controls the world as we speak because she was reading bullshit made from trolls on youtube and what not and it's starting to drive me crazy she went as far as saying these secret societies has something to do with Hitler and she also said that since I'm going to study politics I should get into this stuff she was seeing even though this is not Political Science it's Bullshit Conspiracy theories
Your mother is actually right. Where does she get her info from? If it's from David Icke, you need to do something fast, because he's just a tool of the NWO, his purpose being to make the people who realize what's happening in the world look like imbeciles who believe in giant lizards...
We had a poster on here who talked about reptilians instigating 9/11...any relation to your mother, OP?
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JudasIscariot: We had a poster on here who talked about reptilians instigating 9/11...any relation to your mother, OP?
If you're wondering if two people are related just because they adhere to the same conspiracy theory, then you're probably a good way into developing you own already. ;)