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A trend that was started in the 70s is ruining animation today. It's deplorable! I'll go hug my Batman: TAS action figured because the 90s never gave in!
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Taleroth: I just found out that this is from the wife of the guy behind Powerpuff Girls. Who also worked on PPG.

Do they try to get as much shit under the radar?
Until now not really, there's a little hidden wordplay here and there but overall it's very sparse.
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Tantrix: AND THAT'S SOOOOO CUTE
I don't see how. Having a different opinion than other people sounds like a perfectly legitimate thing in a discussion forum. Seems to me like, if people DIDN'T see things at all differently, most threads would be re-wordings of the same post several times over, which is hardly fun. I didn't realize that saying I don't like something that some other people like, and having reasons for not liking a thing that other people like, could actually ruin other people's day. I don't know why you folks are taking my opinion so seriously, I don't see why it is grounds for calling me names and insinuating that people are actually ALLOWED to sit back, say that someone is wrong AND an idiot AND a snob, and never have to back it up. I don't see how I can possibly be the "bad guy" in that situation, I don't see how it's at all acceptable to do that, and I don't see how it's so impossible to figure that an adult male would not enjoy or like a cheaply produced TV show for 5 year-old girls.
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nondeplumage: A trend that was started in the 70s is ruining animation today. It's deplorable! I'll go hug my Batman: TAS action figured because the 90s never gave in!
Good point. I don't know that it even matters if the merch or the show came first when dealing with this demographic. Lord knows how much money my parents spent on TMNT merch when I was a child. The fact that that was a show first probably didn't help their wallets any.
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nondeplumage: A trend that was started in the 70s is ruining animation today. It's deplorable! I'll go hug my Batman: TAS action figured because the 90s never gave in!
I hope you let your Harley and Ivy stay together at night.
I heard the Joker isn't so nice to his girl.
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nondeplumage: A trend that was started in the 70s is ruining animation today. It's deplorable! I'll go hug my Batman: TAS action figured because the 90s never gave in!
Batman: The Animated series was based on a creative property with years of literature worth pulling from. I personally was a greater fan of The Maxx at the time, but certainly there's a difference between a toy tie-in and a tie-in with comics, books, or film. Granted, original content should be preferred, but a legacy property with decades of content isn't a bad call either.
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kodeen: Lord knows how much money my parents spent on TMNT merch when I was a child. The fact that that was a show first probably didn't help their wallets any.
TMNT the cartoon was specifically made by the people who started the original comic specifically to sell toys.
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nondeplumage: TMNT the cartoon was specifically made by the people who started the original comic specifically to sell toys.
Aww, now I feel manipulated and dirty. Not terribly surprising, though.
low rated
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nondeplumage: TMNT the cartoon was specifically made by the people who started the original comic specifically to sell toys.
This is absolutely true. Though I guess I could say you're wrong, you know nothing about the toy or animation industries, and that I don't have to say WHY you're wrong, but hey. Different strokes, different folks.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by RatherDashing
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kodeen: Lord knows how much money my parents spent on TMNT merch when I was a child. The fact that that was a show first probably didn't help their wallets any.
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nondeplumage: TMNT the cartoon was specifically made by the people who started the original comic specifically to sell toys.
Maybe I'm parsing incorrectly. The cartoon was made to sell toys.

The comic was made as an objection against that practice. Which is hilarious. The creators tried creating TMNT specifically so they couldn't get turned into toys.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Taleroth
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RatherDashing: I personally was a greater fan of The Maxx at the time, but certainly there's a difference between a toy tie-in and a tie-in with comics, books, or film. Granted, original content should be preferred, but a legacy property with decades of content isn't a bad call either.
Certainly. The difference between wanting to sell something based on a property is much different than wanting to sell something based on a property.

And thinking that original content should be preferred over over an established content presumes that originality = good in the first place. You've got a 1 in 10 chance that's true.
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Taleroth: Maybe I'm parsing incorrectly. The cartoon was made to sell toys.

The comic was made as an objection against that practice. Which is hilarious. The creators tried creating TMNT specifically so they couldn't get turned into toys.
I put in one too many specificalies. It's the word of the day.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by nondeplumage
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nondeplumage: Certainly. The difference between wanting to sell something based on a property is much different than wanting to sell something based on a property.
You have to know that's a gross oversimplification. That's like equating a telethon with a sitcom and saying "Yeah, wanting to get money from people watching television is ENTIRELY different from wanting to get money from people watching television".

The difference here is that content was made and existed FIRST. The process wasn't molded plastic>cartoon, but comic>film>cartoon>molded plastic. Those creative levels BEFORE "molded plastic", and the fact that they ARE before "molded plastic" are more than just a semantic difference.

Again, it's great that you get to sit back and make sarcastic potshots without ever having to back YOURSELF up, but maybe you could actually choose between participating or not.
And thinking that original content should be preferred over over an established content presumes that originality = good in the first place. You've got a 1 in 10 chance that's true.
Sturgeon's Law is great and all, but I'm pretty sure there's a difference between making an original property and then making toys from it and making a toy and then crafting a 30 minute ad around it. This is true of other distributions as well, you know, the ones that don't START with the molded plastic.
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RatherDashing: Sturgeon's Law is great and all, but I'm pretty sure there's a difference between making an original property and then making toys from it and making a toy and then crafting a 30 minute ad around it. This is true of other distributions as well, you know, the ones that don't START with the molded plastic.
Yes. The one wishes it had the head start of the other. But we're not talking any property. You started off bitching about the state of cartoons, a niche area in the States that's been driven by merch sales for the last damn near 30 years.
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Tantrix: ^he still thinks anime are cartoons
I GET that he's somewhat trolling with his opinions but he's right...anime is cartoons....if you want him to stop being crass you should follow suit...just asking nicely here.;)
If we got Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors together with these ponies, it would be the greatest crossover over.