Adokat: Putting impossibly large things in your coat is the basis for at least half the adventure game puzzles I've ever solved (and I've played an awful lot). It's just a convention of the genre.

RUSBoris: Well thankfully modern 3D based games have ditched this illogical mechanic. Wouldn't it make (more) sense to somehow lure him up to the hut instead? Say with a trail of honey or a pair women's underwear? :)

RUSBoris: Well thankfully modern 3D based games have ditched this illogical mechanic. Wouldn't it make (more) sense to somehow lure him up to the hut instead? Say with a trail of honey or a pair women's underwear? :)

captfitz: in that case, have you guys ever encountered a hack n slash that you liked? i can't think of one that isn't just repeating the same three things over and over. though i do love them

Joppelarius: As a new member, I was wondering if you guys can think of any games that have been overrated in the press or by people in general. I, for one, can sum up a short list:
1) Half-Life: I was bored with it back then, and I still am when I start it up now. I mean, what does it have that System Shock or Quake didn't have? It looks pretty awful too, even with the new Source engine. I really don't get that many people call this one of the best games ever. To earn such a title it would have to be so good I couldn't stop playing it even 10 years later. The only games I know of that have this with me, are Diablo 2 Lod, STarcraft BW, Gothic 2 and the Baldur's Gate series.
2) Sacrifice and Citizen's Giant: Kabuto (or sth): two different genre games with sort of the same look, from the same gaming era. They were praised in the media but sold pretty poorly. I thought they were absolute crap, I agree with everyone who didn't buy them, and strongly disagree with the suspiciously high number of positive reviews on them.
3) platform games like Metroid, Cave Story, etc.
Some of these like the Mario or Sonic games were fun.. IN 1989! I reallyy don't see how a 2D side-scroller with frustrating gameplay elements can be fun in 2011.

Any comments or similar lists?

StingingVelvet: 1) World of Warcraft - I just consider it a grindy mess and I feel bad for the small amount of money and time I spent on it. People devote their free time to this and that baffles me. Throw in any other similar MMO as the same thing...

2) Knights of the Old Republic - I don't OMG LOVE Star Wars like some people, I thought the original trilogy was pretty good family sci-fi but that's about it. I played KotOR more as a Bioware fan and it was a) very console focused and b) very bland, I thought. The writing was mundane and the overall story, other than the big reveal, was kind of plodding. Story wise Bioware did much better work before and after.

3) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - As a Daggerfall and Morrowind fan Oblivion was like a cold shower. Less interesting dialogue and story, horrible level scaling that was drop-dead obvious, bland fantasy world instead of the interesting and alien landscapes of Morrowind. On top of that there was no choice or consequence, stats didn't matter due to mini-games and combat being based on player skill and the game was designed around an arrow telling you where to go at all times. Just pathetic for an RPG really, though a decent hack n' slash game that was not what the sequel to Morrowind should have been. Fallout 3 was a bit better but still suffered from many of the same issues... I expect Skyrim to as well. At this point the biggest Bethesda release coming down the track for me is DaggerXL, a remake of Daggerfall.

4) Torchlight - Some people make an average clicky-clicky game and people act like it's the second coming of Christ. Why didn't Titan Quest get such love? I guess because it didn't run on a laptop and come out at $20. Cheap and easy don't mean good in my vocabulary.

5) Every Call of Duty since 4 - Expansion packs basically, and even judged on that scale they offer very little new to the table. Just pathetic that these are the Avatar of videogames, it makes me weep.

Yes, most of those are recent... I have a short memory span.

StingingVelvet: 1) World of Warcraft - I just consider it a grindy mess and I feel bad for the small amount of money and time I spent on it. People devote their free time to this and that baffles me. Throw in any other similar MMO as the same thing...

2) Knights of the Old Republic - I don't OMG LOVE Star Wars like some people, I thought the original trilogy was pretty good family sci-fi but that's about it. I played KotOR more as a Bioware fan and it was a) very console focused and b) very bland, I thought. The writing was mundane and the overall story, other than the big reveal, was kind of plodding. Story wise Bioware did much better work before and after.

3) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - As a Daggerfall and Morrowind fan Oblivion was like a cold shower. Less interesting dialogue and story, horrible level scaling that was drop-dead obvious, bland fantasy world instead of the interesting and alien landscapes of Morrowind. On top of that there was no choice or consequence, stats didn't matter due to mini-games and combat being based on player skill and the game was designed around an arrow telling you where to go at all times. Just pathetic for an RPG really, though a decent hack n' slash game that was not what the sequel to Morrowind should have been. Fallout 3 was a bit better but still suffered from many of the same issues... I expect Skyrim to as well. At this point the biggest Bethesda release coming down the track for me is DaggerXL, a remake of Daggerfall.

4) Torchlight - Some people make an average clicky-clicky game and people act like it's the second coming of Christ. Why didn't Titan Quest get such love? I guess because it didn't run on a laptop and come out at $20. Cheap and easy don't mean good in my vocabulary.

5) Every Call of Duty since 4 - Expansion packs basically, and even judged on that scale they offer very little new to the table. Just pathetic that these are the Avatar of videogames, it makes me weep.

Yes, most of those are recent... I have a short memory span.

liquidsnakehpks: i would i agree torchlight is overrated its almost a demo with repeated levels and cheap items but has good music and promises a better sequel soon

GameRager: They promised Torchlight would be better than a similar overrated game called fate, which they also made btw.

gyokzoli: OMG, Sacrifice is one of the best strategy games I ever played. I bet you did not play with the game much.

StingingVelvet: 4) Torchlight - Some people make an average clicky-clicky game and people act like it's the second coming of Christ. Why didn't Titan Quest get such love? I guess because it didn't run on a laptop and come out at $20. Cheap and easy don't mean good in my vocabulary.

Joppelarius: As a new member, I was wondering if you guys can think of any games that have been overrated in the press or by people in general. I, for one, can sum up a short list:
1) Half-Life: I was bored with it back then, and I still am when I start it up now. I mean, what does it have that System Shock or Quake didn't have? It looks pretty awful too, even with the new Source engine. I really don't get that many people call this one of the best games ever. To earn such a title it would have to be so good I couldn't stop playing it even 10 years later. The only games I know of that have this with me, are Diablo 2 Lod, STarcraft BW, Gothic 2 and the Baldur's Gate series.
2) Sacrifice and Citizen's Giant: Kabuto (or sth): two different genre games with sort of the same look, from the same gaming era. They were praised in the media but sold pretty poorly. I thought they were absolute crap, I agree with everyone who didn't buy them, and strongly disagree with the suspiciously high number of positive reviews on them.
3) platform games like Metroid, Cave Story, etc.
Some of these like the Mario or Sonic games were fun.. IN 1989! I reallyy don't see how a 2D side-scroller with frustrating gameplay elements can be fun in 2011.

Any comments or similar lists?