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TheCheese33: Speaking of games being no longer available on Steam, what the hell happened to The Movies? Vanished, right when I was just about to buy it, too. :(

Hmm, appears to have gone for all countries. And apparently, from D2D too. So this is something to do with either Activision or Lionhead Studios. They also shut down the online portion of the game. It is, however, still on the Steam servers for those who already purchased it.
Post edited January 15, 2009 by bansama
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Coelocanth: Cogadh, I actually do think it's just a cut and paste job on the EULA. I know the Mass Effect one is similar, if not identical, but players are reporting no troubles playing the Steam version of MEPC in offline mode.
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Weclock: Go to the other EA games pages. They aren't all the same, a few are similar but there are many that don't even have that information.

FYI, the Mass Effect page had a similar (it could have been the same, I don't remember) EULA blurb and someone called Bioware/EA/Steam on it. They took it down and replaced it with the current one before the paint was even dry. I think there were threads about it on the Steam forums as well as the Bioware ME forums.
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TapeWorm: FYI, the Mass Effect page had a similar (it could have been the same, I don't remember) EULA blurb and someone called Bioware/EA/Steam on it. They took it down and replaced it with the current one before the paint was even dry. I think there were threads about it on the Steam forums as well as the Bioware ME forums.

Oh good, someone else remembered that. I couldn't be certain as to whether I had imagined that or not. Thanks for showing me that I am not totally crazy. Yet.
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TapeWorm: FYI, the Mass Effect page had a similar (it could have been the same, I don't remember) EULA blurb and someone called Bioware/EA/Steam on it. They took it down and replaced it with the current one before the paint was even dry. I think there were threads about it on the Steam forums as well as the Bioware ME forums.
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bansama: Oh good, someone else remembered that. I couldn't be certain as to whether I had imagined that or not. Thanks for showing me that I am not totally crazy. Yet.

Oh no. You're still quite demented I assure you.
Oh bugger. U_U
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bansama: It's been stated by Valve that in the event Steam "shuts down" they already have the ability to deactivate the requirement for authentication, meaning you will still be able to use your backups

They mentioned that for Valve games, they never mentioned anything about what would happens for third party games.
Do you really expect a single nano-seconds that EA,UBI or other editor would allow Valve to release a patch removing all copy protection from their Steam distributed games... i have some extremely big doubts.
If the "magic" Steam-removal patch is nowhere to be found in Steam EULA and that instead it's mentioned pretty clearly that they can stop their "service" anytime they want , it's not for nothing.
Post edited January 17, 2009 by Gersen
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Gersen: They mentioned that for Valve games, they never mentioned anything about what would happens for third party games.

No, that's for all games, not just Valve ones. The authentication servers do not make any distinction between who published the game, they merely check that your account is authorised to play it. So, EA, Ubisoft and all other publishers using Steam have no say in the matter. Feel free to have that confirmed for you on the Steam forums if you don't want to take my word for it. Afterall, the question gets asked on an almost daily basis now over there anyhow =)
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bansama: No, that's for all games, not just Valve ones.

Do you have any official statement on that, I mean something really official, not some moderator saying that he "think" that it "might" cover all games.
The authentication servers do not make any distinction between who published the game, they merely check that your account is authorised to play it. So, EA, Ubisoft and all other publishers using Steam have no say in the matter.

That's not what even Valve said, they said that for each games the editor was allowed to decide the protection scheme used of his games, whenever the authorisation was checked only after purchase, everytime you try to play the game or even after a certain playtime.. so it the authentication servers can have an "a la carte" protection scheme I hardly see how it would be impossible to only unlock some games and not the others.
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bansama: Feel free to have that confirmed for you on the Steam forums if you don't want to take my word for it. Afterall, the question gets asked on an almost daily basis now over there anyhow =)

The question get's often asked on the forum but I never saw any official answer for it, usualy the thread in questions either are locked or get's lost . And I also tried three times by e-mail and never got any answer either.
I'm pretty sure that if Steam ever went out of business, they would be required to deactivate authentication and let everyone copy all their games down to DVD. If they didn't, they would have the largest lawsuit in history on their hands...
I've rarely seen a thread with as little discussion of the actual topic as this one has :-D
Yes, thread must be renamned to Steam would rather than Mirrors Edge. :P
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TheCheese33: I'm pretty sure that if Steam ever went out of business, they would be required to deactivate authentication and let everyone copy all their games down to DVD. If they didn't, they would have the largest lawsuit in history on their hands...

You mean like Yahoo and MSN were forced to unlock bought music after they decided to stop their DRM service or like Triton was forced to unlock Prey when they when out of business ? (Lucky for Triton customer that 3dRealms and Valve agree to give them a free Steam copy)
Read the EULA you accepted for every game you bought, they can stop giving you access to a game anytime without any prior notice. You have a similar statement in all digital distributor EULA.
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Wishbone: I've rarely seen a thread with as little discussion of the actual topic as this one has :-D

Well the problem is that Mirror Edge is already out on other platform for quite sometime now so most of the thing that can be said about ME has probably already been said.
And honestly (warning presonal opinion) there is not that much to say about ME to begin with, nice concept but sadly it's a very short ultra repetitive and uber linear game.
In the same "genre" (moving from point A to B without that much gameplay in between) Prince of Persia is much better (once again it's purely personal opinion)
EDIT : I just discover the message "auto-merge" feature of the forum... nice :-)
Post edited January 17, 2009 by Gersen
you mean
it's working?
---holy monkey it is
Post edited January 17, 2009 by Weclock
Loving your new avatar and title, Wec :-D
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Wishbone: Loving your new avatar and title, Wec :-D
heh, thanks :)