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kava07: Nope, it's 3, PeaceWalker, Ground Zeros, 5, Original Metal Gears, 1, 2, 4. In one hand I'm so excited because it's my favorite series. On the other hand, I'm lacking money and good PC to play MGS so it's going to be years before I get my hands on it.
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Elmofongo: You forgot Portable Ops for the PSP which goes between 3 and Peace Walker.
No, I didn't. As Darvond said, it's not canon, at least not in the eyes of Kojima. Fans do like to think it as a part of the storyline, but Hideo counts just those ones on which he has worked on. Same thing goes for Revengence. That thing really isn't part of the MGS storyline.
Post edited August 13, 2014 by kava07
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Fenixp: Sooooo I can play 1, 2 and 5 on PC? Aren't those games supposed to have crazy continuous storyline?
They are. Also there's Revengeance. It may be a spin-off but it takes place after MGS4 and *will* spoil many events from MGS2 and 4. Apparently the devs wanted to make the scenario and plot more accessible to new players through recaps of earlier events making it also a spoiler-fest for anyone who ever had the slightest intention of playing the whole series. I definitely regretted having played Revengeance before playing MGS4. Stopped playing one hour in and bought the Legacy Collection for PS3 and made a run through the series in the order the games were released. :P
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kava07: Same thing goes for Revengence. That thing really isn't part of the MGS storyline.
And yet it will massively spoil you the MGS games if you play it first. A really bad choice for the first MGS game released for PC in more than ten years.
Post edited August 13, 2014 by F4LL0UT
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F4LL0UT: ...
When I played Revengeance half of the storyline pretty much bounced off me. The game was too awesome to pass tho.

... and that soundtrack. Dear lord that soundtrack.
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Elmofongo: ...
I guess it's fine then.
Post edited August 13, 2014 by Fenixp
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Elmofongo: Nope. 3, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Ground Zeros, 5, NES Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake, 1/Twin Snakes, 2, 4, and Revengence.
NES Metal Gear? Wtf
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Elmofongo: Nope. 3, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Ground Zeros, 5, NES Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake, 1/Twin Snakes, 2, 4, and Revengence.
"NES Metal Gear" is a shoddy port that doesn't even tell the same story as the original Metal Gear on the MSX.

The other games created without Kojimas involvement at least fit into the canon (even if Kojima doesn't acknowledge them as such). This one just doesn't. There isn't even a Metal Gear in it. :P

Edit: Okay, I confused a few things - Snake's Revenge on NES was the one that does not at all fit in. Metal Gear on NES wasn't changed as much as I thought. But it's still not the real thing and there's still no fight against Metal Gear (while it's clearly canon that Solid Snake destroyed Metal Gear directly and not some super computer :P).
Post edited August 13, 2014 by F4LL0UT
Great for those that know the franchise and story. But puzzling for those new to the IP.

From Steam page:

Taking place nine years after the events of MGSV: Ground Zeroes and the fall of Mother Base, Snake a.k.a. Big Boss, awakes from a near decade-long coma. The game resumes the story in 1984, with the Cold War still as the backdrop, which continues to shape a global crisis. Snake’s journey takes him into a world where he is driven by a need for revenge and the pursuit of a shadow group, XOF.

The above means absolutely nothing to me. The last MGS title i played was on the PS. And even then, i thought it was shit. In fact, the game was that awful i didn't even complete it. So i didn't bother with the rest of the games.

Konami would be wise to release the rest of the games on PC along with these new releases for new players.
Guys, there's my topic with several pages where, basically, I posted alone. Now it's time to use it, and you are doing another topic :(
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Punished_Snake: Guys, there's my topic with several pages where, basically, I posted alone. Now it's time to use it, and you are doing another topic :(
Yet to play PO, PW and GZ. No way I'm even clicking a thread with that title.
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Elmofongo: Nope. 3, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Ground Zeros, 5, NES Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake, 1/Twin Snakes, 2, 4, and Revengence.
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F4LL0UT: "NES Metal Gear" is a shoddy port that doesn't even tell the same story as the original Metal Gear on the MSX.

The other games created without Kojimas involvement at least fit into the canon (even if Kojima doesn't acknowledge them as such). This one just doesn't. There isn't even a Metal Gear in it. :P

Edit: Okay, I confused a few things - Snake's Revenge on NES was the one that does not at all fit in. Metal Gear on NES wasn't changed as much as I thought. But it's still not the real thing and there's still no fight against Metal Gear (while it's clearly canon that Solid Snake destroyed Metal Gear directly and not some super computer :P).
Sorry than I don't know how else to describe it without just calling it "Metal Gear" but mind you I am not refering to the NES port that AVGN reviewed.
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Elmofongo: Nope. 3, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Ground Zeros, 5, NES Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake, 1/Twin Snakes, 2, 4, and Revengence.
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retsuseiba: NES Metal Gear? Wtf
What I said to F4LL0UT.
Post edited August 13, 2014 by Elmofongo
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Elmofongo: Sorry than I don't know how else to describe it without just calling it "Metal Gear"
MSX Metal Gear.
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Punished_Snake: Guys, there's my topic with several pages where, basically, I posted alone. Now it's time to use it, and you are doing another topic :(
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retsuseiba: Yet to play PO, PW and GZ. No way I'm even clicking a thread with that title.
There are no spolers in the thread.
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Elmofongo: You forgot Portable Ops for the PSP which goes between 3 and Peace Walker.
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kava07: No, I didn't. As Darvond said, it's not canon, at least not in the eyes of Kojima. Fans do like to think it as a part of the storyline, but Hideo counts just those ones on which he has worked on. Same thing goes for Revengence. That thing really isn't part of the MGS storyline.
It did brought things to light:

SPOILERS










It revealed that the Patroits were Big Boss, Ocelot, and Zero. (among others) And that reveal is especially shocking if you played this game before MGS4.

And that Sokolov is alive.

And that it was Big Boss' first indtroduction to mainting his own amry

And he meets Roy Campbell and Grey Fox
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

now thats just great news, konami please dont drop this plan
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JumpinJackFlash: The last MGS title i played was on the PS. And even then, i thought it was shit. In fact, the game was that awful i didn't even complete it. So i didn't bother with the rest of the games.
Good call. If MGS1 didn't do it for you I don't think there's a chance that it will be any different with any of the other ones.

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JumpinJackFlash: Konami would be wise to release the rest of the games on PC along with these new releases for new players.
True but it would be an insane amount of work. Then again, I guess the same guys who created the HD collection would be able to pull off a decent PC port. Still, I've seen few console where a control scheme for PC would be so hard to create, if at all possible. Heck, the PC version of MGS2 introduced two buttons that you had to press to emulate different degrees of button pressure (because the original PS2 version depended heavily on it). And that in case of a game that already depends too much on complicated button combinations. And it got even worse in MGS3, IMO. I still have no idea how they worked around the issue with the HD versions on Xbox 360. Additionally the games sometimes break the fourth wall and reference the system they are on or the type of controller they are played on. Porting the MGS games to PC would be one huge mess.
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JumpinJackFlash: The last MGS title i played was on the PS. And even then, i thought it was shit. In fact, the game was that awful i didn't even complete it. So i didn't bother with the rest of the games.
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F4LL0UT: Good call. If MGS1 didn't do it for you I don't think there's a chance that it will be any different with any of the other ones.

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JumpinJackFlash: Konami would be wise to release the rest of the games on PC along with these new releases for new players.
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F4LL0UT: True but it would be an insane amount of work. Then again, I guess the same guys who created the HD collection would be able to pull off a decent PC port. Still, I've seen few console where a control scheme for PC would be so hard to create, if at all possible. Heck, the PC version of MGS2 introduced two buttons that you had to press to emulate different degrees of button pressure (because the original PS2 version depended heavily on it). And that in case of a game that already depends too much on complicated button combinations. And it got even worse in MGS3, IMO. I still have no idea how they worked around the issue with the HD versions on Xbox 360. Additionally the games sometimes break the fourth wall and reference the system they are on or the type of controller they are played on. Porting the MGS games to PC would be one huge mess.
Case in point its a very console/controller oriented game.

The man is clearly missing out on 3.
Post edited August 13, 2014 by Elmofongo