Posted February 14, 2010
Lou
Eschalon - Book One
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
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Posted February 14, 2010
Thanks for the link, but I have to comment on the fact that it exists.
This is my least favorite aspect of the Olympics (summer or winter); the whole medal tally thing. I understand that it is human nature to want to see these stats (I am included in that), however I think it detracts from the Games, somehow. The whole point of the games is to bring countries together by, essentially, having a festival showing off various country's talents and feats of physical prowess. Winning is of course part of this, why else would there be medals?
However, the medal tally makes it too much about country vs. country, rather than athlete vs. athlete. I like my country to do well as much as the next guy, but I don't like the idea of rooting for a country while forgetting the competitors themselves. Somehow it becomes to much of the "Us vs Them" type of competition rather than a celebration.
Not sure if I am getting my point across well enough. It seems like I am missing something in my argument. Hopefully, it is good enough for people to at least see where I am coming from.
Anyway, I'll reiterate, I have zero against posting the link; it is interesting to me too. It just reminded me of something that bothered me in previous Olympics, as well as this one, so I figured I'd mention it.
This is my least favorite aspect of the Olympics (summer or winter); the whole medal tally thing. I understand that it is human nature to want to see these stats (I am included in that), however I think it detracts from the Games, somehow. The whole point of the games is to bring countries together by, essentially, having a festival showing off various country's talents and feats of physical prowess. Winning is of course part of this, why else would there be medals?
However, the medal tally makes it too much about country vs. country, rather than athlete vs. athlete. I like my country to do well as much as the next guy, but I don't like the idea of rooting for a country while forgetting the competitors themselves. Somehow it becomes to much of the "Us vs Them" type of competition rather than a celebration.
Not sure if I am getting my point across well enough. It seems like I am missing something in my argument. Hopefully, it is good enough for people to at least see where I am coming from.
Anyway, I'll reiterate, I have zero against posting the link; it is interesting to me too. It just reminded me of something that bothered me in previous Olympics, as well as this one, so I figured I'd mention it.
KevO392
Chaosmönger
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Posted February 14, 2010
Krypsyn: Thanks for the link, but I have to comment on the fact that it exists.
This is my least favorite aspect of the Olympics (summer or winter); the whole medal tally thing. I understand that it is human nature to want to see these stats (I am included in that), however I think it detracts from the Games, somehow. The whole point of the games is to bring countries together by, essentially, having a festival showing off various country's talents and feats of physical prowess. Winning is of course part of this, why else would there be medals?
However, the medal tally makes it too much about country vs. country, rather than athlete vs. athlete. I like my country to do well as much as the next guy, but I don't like the idea of rooting for a country while forgetting the competitors themselves. Somehow it becomes to much of the "Us vs Them" type of competition rather than a celebration.
Not sure if I am getting my point across well enough. It seems like I am missing something in my argument. Hopefully, it is good enough for people to at least see where I am coming from.
Anyway, I'll reiterate, I have zero against posting the link; it is interesting to me too. It just reminded me of something that bothered me in previous Olympics, as well as this one, so I figured I'd mention it.
This is my least favorite aspect of the Olympics (summer or winter); the whole medal tally thing. I understand that it is human nature to want to see these stats (I am included in that), however I think it detracts from the Games, somehow. The whole point of the games is to bring countries together by, essentially, having a festival showing off various country's talents and feats of physical prowess. Winning is of course part of this, why else would there be medals?
However, the medal tally makes it too much about country vs. country, rather than athlete vs. athlete. I like my country to do well as much as the next guy, but I don't like the idea of rooting for a country while forgetting the competitors themselves. Somehow it becomes to much of the "Us vs Them" type of competition rather than a celebration.
Not sure if I am getting my point across well enough. It seems like I am missing something in my argument. Hopefully, it is good enough for people to at least see where I am coming from.
Anyway, I'll reiterate, I have zero against posting the link; it is interesting to me too. It just reminded me of something that bothered me in previous Olympics, as well as this one, so I figured I'd mention it.
I know what you're trying to say but I'd argue that ever since the modern games started the Olympics have always been seen as a country vs. country competition foremost. Especially when you look back to the games when it was essentially the United States vs. the USSR during the Cold War or the Allied Nations vs. Nazi Germany in the Berlin games with the goal being to prove that one country was superior through their athletes. Not saying that that's the way it is now but I think historically that's how it's been.
Lou
Eschalon - Book One
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Posted February 14, 2010
Krypsyn: Thanks for the link, but I have to comment on the fact that it exists.
This is my least favorite aspect of the Olympics (summer or winter); the whole medal tally thing. I understand that it is human nature to want to see these stats (I am included in that), however I think it detracts from the Games, somehow. The whole point of the games is to bring countries together by, essentially, having a festival showing off various country's talents and feats of physical prowess. Winning is of course part of this, why else would there be medals?
However, the medal tally makes it too much about country vs. country, rather than athlete vs. athlete. I like my country to do well as much as the next guy, but I don't like the idea of rooting for a country while forgetting the competitors themselves. Somehow it becomes to much of the "Us vs Them" type of competition rather than a celebration.
Not sure if I am getting my point across well enough. It seems like I am missing something in my argument. Hopefully, it is good enough for people to at least see where I am coming from.
Anyway, I'll reiterate, I have zero against posting the link; it is interesting to me too. It just reminded me of something that bothered me in previous Olympics, as well as this one, so I figured I'd mention it.
This is my least favorite aspect of the Olympics (summer or winter); the whole medal tally thing. I understand that it is human nature to want to see these stats (I am included in that), however I think it detracts from the Games, somehow. The whole point of the games is to bring countries together by, essentially, having a festival showing off various country's talents and feats of physical prowess. Winning is of course part of this, why else would there be medals?
However, the medal tally makes it too much about country vs. country, rather than athlete vs. athlete. I like my country to do well as much as the next guy, but I don't like the idea of rooting for a country while forgetting the competitors themselves. Somehow it becomes to much of the "Us vs Them" type of competition rather than a celebration.
Not sure if I am getting my point across well enough. It seems like I am missing something in my argument. Hopefully, it is good enough for people to at least see where I am coming from.
Anyway, I'll reiterate, I have zero against posting the link; it is interesting to me too. It just reminded me of something that bothered me in previous Olympics, as well as this one, so I figured I'd mention it.
Its just an easy way to keep track of how things are going. Use some of the other links on the page like See The Names. From there you can get profiles of the individual medalists. I think this is just a great UI for all things 2010 Winter Olympics.
Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
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From United States
Posted February 14, 2010
KevO392: I know what you're trying to say but I'd argue that ever since the modern games started the Olympics have always been seen as a country vs. country competition foremost. Especially when you look back to the games when it was essentially the United States vs. the USSR during the Cold War or the Allied Nations vs. Nazi Germany in the Berlin games with the goal being to prove that one country was superior through their athletes. Not saying that that's the way it is now but I think historically that's how it's been.
Yeah, true enough. I am not arguing that it hasn't been this way virtually since inception, it is human nature to root for one's 'team' after all. Part of our tribal mentally, I suppose. I just meant that I think it gets in the way of the spirit of the Games if taken too far. I don't think it has in recent memory, honestly, but I merely point to Medal Tallies as promoting a trend that I think can be deleterious.
Interesting thing is that the USSR is still ranked 2 in all-time medals for the Winter Olympics. Pretty impressive for a country that hasn't existed for around 20 years (I think 1992 was their last Games as a nation, even though the country had already disintegrated). Same goes for East Germany, and they are ranked 6th (I think) in all-time medals. Rather impressive the Olympics programs those two countries had, even discounting the claims of foul play that sprouted up.
Lou: Its just an easy way to keep track of how things are going. Use some of the other links on the page like See The Names. From there you can get profiles of the individual medalists. I think this is just a great UI for all things 2010 Winter Olympics.
Yeah, I tried really hard to say that I have nothing against the link. I actually think posting it was a good idea. It was mainly a jumping off point for my mini-rant.
prakaa
"Large Talons?"
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stonebro
Love Lumberjacks
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Posted February 15, 2010
prakaa: My favourite bit:
FRA Australia See names 0 1 0 1
FRA Russia See names 0 0 1 1
Australia has really only one place that snows, and it's usually artificial. Russia is a country of snow, and is losing to us!!
FRA Australia See names 0 1 0 1
FRA Russia See names 0 0 1 1
Australia has really only one place that snows, and it's usually artificial. Russia is a country of snow, and is losing to us!!
You might want to wait until the hockey finals are done before you plan a barbeque party to celebrate.
Myself, I'm waiting for the cross-country events to start. That's when Norway begin hoovering medals.
Link to all-time standings: http://www.nbcolympics.com/medals/all-time-standings/index.html
The Soviet Union hasn't been around since 1989, yet they're still 2nd. No wonder though as they were all systematically drugged ... them and East Germany.
Post edited February 15, 2010 by stonebro
Lou
Eschalon - Book One
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Posted February 15, 2010
prakaa: My favourite bit:
FRA Australia See names 0 1 0 1
FRA Russia See names 0 0 1 1
Australia has really only one place that snows, and it's usually artificial. Russia is a country of snow, and is losing to us!!
stonebro: You might want to wait until the hockey finals are done before you plan a barbeque party to celebrate. FRA Australia See names 0 1 0 1
FRA Russia See names 0 0 1 1
Australia has really only one place that snows, and it's usually artificial. Russia is a country of snow, and is losing to us!!
Myself, I'm waiting for the cross-country events to start. That's when Norway begin hoovering medals.
Link to all-time standings: http://www.nbcolympics.com/medals/all-time-standings/index.html
The Soviet Union hasn't been around since 1989, yet they're still 2nd. No wonder though as they were all systematically drugged ... them and East Germany.
Were you able to catch the Nordic Combined. The final CC Race was great.
Sweden - Estonia - Norway for the Women's 10K
Men's 15K later today
;-)
Post edited February 15, 2010 by Lou