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Since when is celebrating the positives of one culture racism?
If it said "blacks only" that would be racism.
Not making things for every group isn't discrimination. Specifically excluding groups when there is no good reason to, that's discrimination.
Post edited January 13, 2010 by soulgrindr
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Aliasalpha: Well discriminating on the basis of race/gender/sexual orientation (on any basis other than being a middle class white male) but to the benefit of the recipient rather than the detriment

Giving preferential treatment to one group means giving lesser treatment to every other group. There's no such thing as positive or negative racism, there is only racism, although it seems that these days one is expected to engage in racism on certain occasions in order to remain PC. Pretty sorry state of affairs.
Look at the bright side; at least they're not KFC releasing that recent Australian ad.
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TheCheese33: Look at the bright side; at least they're not KFC releasing that recent Australian ad.

Hehe that was a good ad. Those sissypants in Australia...
Ugh, I'm not even going to get started on this, because someone is eventually going to pull a race card.
However, I will say this: This type of thing defeats the entire notion of equality that blacks fought for in the 50's and 60's. Preferential treatment is biased. Being biased is not equal.
Here, I'll even give a visual reference to stuff that pisses me off:
This was considered racist when it was revealed
This was not.
Bullshit.
Post edited January 13, 2010 by Wraith
As I understand it it was sissypants in america bitching that made kfc pull the ad here. Thats the kind of stereotype shit that simply doesn't enter into our minds here (at least remotely normal people)
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Aliasalpha: As I understand it it was sissypants in america bitching that made kfc pull the ad here. Thats the kind of stereotype shit that simply doesn't enter into our minds here (at least remotely normal people)

Because we all know Australians are normal.
/in bad taste
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DarrkPhoenix: There's no such thing as positive or negative racism, there is only racism

Well said.
During Obama's campaign I was listening to the Washington and Wisconsin public radio and there were lots of debates about racism in America. And I was truly shocked by the definition of racism given by all those journalists and experts people concerning racial issues. They all agreed that black people cannot be racists because they don't have any power in America. If you don't have power, you cannot discriminate people. Even if there is some truth in that, I totally disagree with that definition. Racism is a human feeling not matter what color is your skin or your social position.
You can't discriminate very effectively without power but you can still be a dick, all that requires is being human
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Aliasalpha: You can't discriminate very effectively without power but you can still be a dick, all that requires is being human

Sadly black people get power by pulling the race card.
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Wraith: Ugh, I'm not even going to get started on this, because someone is eventually going to pull a race card.
However, I will say this: This type of thing defeats the entire notion of equality that blacks fought for in the 50's and 60's. Preferential treatment is biased. Being biased is not equal.
Here, I'll even give a visual reference to stuff that pisses me off:
This was considered racist when it was revealed
This was not.
Bullshit.

OH MY GOD. Those are nuts!
They should have a collectable card game called "The Race Card", it sounds cool
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Aliasalpha: Isn't affirmitive action just positive racism?

It's worse. Look up "Multiculturalism" in regards to Canadian law. It makes me sick.
Here is the way the law SHOULD be regarding immigration and foreign culture:
NO immigration department. ALL immigrants should be evaluated SOLELY on what they have to offer to the country they want to come to.
The immigration quota should be DIRECTLY linked to the unemployment rate, and if the rate goes below a certain point, NO immigration should be allowed under ANY circumstances barring an emergency. In addition, the opposition should be able to call a referendum at any time to close down immigration for 6 months per referendum.
Culturally, Canada should ONLY protect the PRIVATE recognition of religion/culture. That means no more affirmative action, no more "10 jobs available, 3/10 have to go to minorities", no more punishing ourselves just for political correctness.
Buttom line is, culture and religion are private, and a host country is just that, your HOST, not your private incubator.
Barack Obama: "I will not use the race card during the election."
Hillary Clinton: "That's too bad, because I'm going to play the sex card every chance I get!"
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tb87670: We got a black president. They are 'proven' equals, yet still want special treatment. 85% of jail population is black people yet they only make up about 15% of the general population in America. They can call me a honkey but I can't call them a n****r. Any thoughts on this?

Pretty much, but you're a racist for saying such things according to the media.
My girl and I talk about this all the time with sexism, most fo the time the media treats women as these poor fragile creatures that need protection, otherwise there is sexism, but the idea of them needing more protection in general is sexist.
The media loves to label everything... racism here, sexism there, and it's all based on surface level thinking, nothing substantial or proven. It's pretty sad.
And yeah that website is lame... imagine a website that celebrates White culture, it would be on CNN as racism before the hour was done.
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Cambrey: During Obama's campaign I was listening to the Washington and Wisconsin public radio and there were lots of debates about racism in America. And I was truly shocked by the definition of racism given by all those journalists and experts people concerning racial issues. They all agreed that black people cannot be racists because they don't have any power in America. If you don't have power, you cannot discriminate people. Even if there is some truth in that, I totally disagree with that definition. Racism is a human feeling not matter what color is your skin or your social position.

As a graduate student I can tell you that sociologists, africana studies and most other majors dealing with race teach that exact definition. It's a liberal guilt thing, drives me up the wall. I debate it in class but the professor always comes back around to a Black man with no power not being able to be a racist, and that is the right answer on the test because he says so.
I agree there is a fundemental difference in institutionalized racism and personal racism, and institutionalized racism can only exist if one group has power over the other, but personal racism can exist in anyone, anytime, for any reason, power or not. Also the government has power, so if the government in general makes a racist law, like say affirmative action, then it matters not the color of the victim or the color of the law maker, it only matters who is affected... the government might be mostly White, but it still inacted a racist law against Whites, which is institutionalized racism.
Post edited January 14, 2010 by StingingVelvet