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Well, all my interest in the Occulus Rift just fell into a pit and died. I have no interest in Farcebook and have no desire to have it, literally, shoved in my face.

I shall instead look towards Sony's Project Morpheus for my future VR needs - lesser of two evils and all that, although to be honest I've never found Sony to be all that bad....
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djranis: finally you can shove your face in facebook
They should make the first Oculus VR headset shaped like a book. Then you'd be a walking Facebook!
Stupid Facebook buying everything. Luckily I don't use Instagram or Whatsapp, but when PC gaming gets affected, shit gets real. I don't need their casual crappy take on games affecting my PC games. Next we have candy crap saga VR and farmcraptasticville.
Post edited March 25, 2014 by cw8
Poor John Carmack.
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Neobr10: By the way, does this mean that John Carmack works for Facebook now? He just left Bethesda and now he's working for a much worse company. Oh shit.
Seems so, yes.
Post edited March 25, 2014 by F4LL0UT
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JustSayin: This reminds me of 3D TVs. Remember when you had to have one?
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Fesin: No, not really. In my experience, nobody ever gave a shit about those.
There are people who care, it's just a niche thing. Companies like trying to turn niche things into massive moneymakers.
My reacton is one of two further words.

Edit: This one expresses my anguish better.
Post edited March 26, 2014 by Darvond
IMO this is good for Facebook and Oculus. I wouldn't expect the path for the device to change much in the near future, but it will provide funding and resources that otherwise may not have been available. FB seems interested in letting them operate as a separate entity for the time being, something other orgs with hardware experience may not let them do (Sony, Microsoft, etc).

It's also worth noting that it's unlikely FB was the only party interested, I'd imagine all the other big players were involved too. The fact it was FB makes it less scary than some of the other possibilities.

That said, I'd be pissed if I was a high dollar supporter and realized that I basically just provided free investment for the founders to raise the value of their ownership and get acquired.
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Shinook: That said, I'd be pissed if I was a high dollar supporter and realized that I basically just provided free investment for the founders to raise the value of their ownership and get acquired.
It's a weird aspect to Kickstarter for sure. With a game it just feels like a really far ahead pre-order, but with hardware or inventions it feels more like investing without a real return.
That's the illusion of crowdfunding, that you get some kind of say in the company's future. Well, no, you don't. The only way you can look at it is as advance sales. You don't become any kind of owner, nor should you ever think you are.

As for who put up the money for Oculus, the 2.4 million that Kickstarter contributors put up was peanuts compared to the 90 million in vulture capital that actually owns the company.

As for Oculus management, doing what was not unfair to the Kickstarter contributors in order to make an obscene profit for the vulture capitalists is just how this game is played. And if you don't want to play by their rules, they control the board of directors, they will fire you, and you will walk away with nothing.
Post edited March 25, 2014 by cjrgreen
From the NY Times.

"According to a person involved in the deal who was not allowed to speak publicly because he was not authorized by either company, Facebook eventually plans to redesign the Oculus hardware and rebrand it with a Facebook interface and logo."

Also saw this hilarious mock-up.
Cool.

Lot of doomsaying here, you'd think it was the early stages of an MMO launch... Just remember that either way it'd be owned by some mega corporation that we all love to hate. Sony, Microsoft and Valve are no better.
LOL, just LOL.

I remember everyone riding the OR's dick like it was going out of style, claiming it's the future and that nothing will be the same and that it will kill the consoles (always gotta twist it into something that helps hide your insecurities).
I was very "meh" about it all, and I'm glad to see I'm right.

Side-Note: If you could harness Butt-Hurt as an energy source, this announcement alone could power most of the developed world for at least 5 years.
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Cormoran: Cool.

Lot of doomsaying here, you'd think it was the early stages of an MMO launch... Just remember that either way it'd be owned by some mega corporation that we all love to hate. Sony, Microsoft and Valve are no better.
There is a huge difference between Facebook and Valve/Sony. Sony and Valve are not trying to get as much information from people as they can. If they are, they do a better job of hiding that fact than Facebook.
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Cormoran: Cool.

Lot of doomsaying here, you'd think it was the early stages of an MMO launch... Just remember that either way it'd be owned by some mega corporation that we all love to hate. Sony, Microsoft and Valve are no better.
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JustSayin: There is a huge difference between Facebook and Valve/Sony. Sony and Valve are not trying to get as much information from people as they can. If they are, they do a better job of hiding that fact than Facebook.
They do a better job at hiding it.

Their main business is to sell you games, for that to be done optimally they need your information. Facebooks main business is social networking, so of course it's more difficult to hide the fact that they have access to a lot of personal information.

However my Steam page, particularly recently with the revamp, contains almost as much info on it as my Facebook page, and I use it to communicate far more than I do Facebook.

The same can go for Sony and Microsoft (which I notice you neglected to mention, I'm guessing because you agree that they're equally bad). Getting you to think otherwise is the result of good marketing and nothing else. Sony, who currently has a 'for the gamer' image has only just taken away it's HDCP restriction on it's PS4, something they should never have had in the first place. Valve, well, just take a look around these very forums if you want to see what people think of their shenanigans.
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JustSayin: There is a huge difference between Facebook and Valve/Sony. Sony and Valve are not trying to get as much information from people as they can. If they are, they do a better job of hiding that fact than Facebook.
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Cormoran: They do a better job at hiding it.

Their main business is to sell you games, for that to be done optimally they need your information. Facebooks main business is social networking, so of course it's more difficult to hide the fact that they have access to a lot of personal information.

However my Steam page, particularly recently with the revamp, contains almost as much info on it as my Facebook page, and I use it to communicate far more than I do Facebook.

The same can go for Sony and Microsoft (which I notice you neglected to mention, I'm guessing because you agree that they're equally bad). Getting you to think otherwise is the result of good marketing and nothing else. Sony, who currently has a 'for the gamer' image has only just taken away it's HDCP restriction on it's PS4, something they should never have had in the first place. Valve, well, just take a look around these very forums if you want to see what people think of their shenanigans.
facebook wants to sell you everything. hence. they need every information they can get from you.
valce wants only to sell you games hence they collect only info which relates to your gaming habits.


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and what do you mean by steam page containing as much info as FB page. im not really FB user. I have account but rarely use it myself. yet it contains way more info on me than steam.

my real name
my pictures: of me and of my activities. many not familyfriendly
who are my friends,
where i used to work where i work now
often my locations, where i dine, what movies i saw (and i don't upload those information myself.)
few things i like
my communications past and current some of them written when i was drunk
my ip
my email

steam:
my ip
my hardware specs
what games i bought
how much time i play
my email
my steamfriends
info on what groups i joined in steam


did i miss anything? I just don't see how even remotely what valve collects can be compared to what FB collects. Especially since I have greater control over what steam collects than FB...