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This is my favourite topic
Posted January 24, 2011
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Tormentfan: I was a DiAnno fan.. mind you I think the start of the New Brittish Wave was the best.. I was a Denim and Leather Kid.

Dickinson was too operatic at times.. DiAnno was just raw voice... Iron Maiden's popularity for me wained mostly when they got Gers in as their third guitar.. I was brought up on Maiden Maiden and Killers.
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Rodzaju: I'd say they peaked with seventh son...
That was the first tour I was allowed to go to.. I'd booked twice, the Edinburgh Playhouse and Ingleston.. I'd been looking at the stage get up for weeks in magazines.. all lights and icebergs with that particular itteration of Eddie hanging in the middle, it all looked stunning.. I was really hyped....

But for both the concerts I went to all we got was a white projection back drop with various Eddie still.. I didn't even like that album much and they hardly played any of their older stuff... I was really disappointed.

They were never the same after that....and when Gers came in, that kind of finished Maiden for me..a couple of songs here and there, but never a fan as I was... and I was a huge fan.
Post edited January 24, 2011 by Tormentfan
Posted January 24, 2011
Alas, no mention of vegetarian progressive grindkore on this map ;)
On the plus side, it tipped me off on Blood Stain Child though, I do like more experimental metal, and trance metal looked as experimental as it gets ;)
Posted January 24, 2011
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hyperagathon: Should be under Melodic Death, but for some reason it isn't - and neither are In Flames or Dark Tranquility, which is a glaring oversight in my opinion.
In Flames and Dark Tranquility are under Swedish death metal
Posted January 24, 2011
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hyperagathon: Should be under Melodic Death, but for some reason it isn't - and neither are In Flames or Dark Tranquility, which is a glaring oversight in my opinion.
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Siannah: In Flames and Dark Tranquility are under Swedish death metal
Sure, but that's missing the point? Could have easily been on several lists (as some bands are).
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termit: as experimental as it gets ;)
I'd argue it's not really more experimental than any other crossover attempt - why is Metal+Trance > Metal+Rap for instance?
Post edited January 24, 2011 by hyperagathon
Posted January 24, 2011
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hyperagathon: Sure, but that's missing the point? Could have easily been on several lists (as some bands are).
With all due respect, these "classifications" are never carved in stone and depending on point of views. And I find it incredibly boring (not to mention stupid) to discuss about if Band X or album Y belongs into this, that or another category.

After all, it's metal and it rocks - that's what really counts.
Posted January 24, 2011
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Aliasalpha: Is Soilwork in this thing anywhere?
It doesn't seem so. Not unless they're under something I'd never label them as.
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Fenixp: Which are pretty much pointless :D
Yep. But then people have spent millennia fighting over which imaginary sky fairy is better, so this is hardly surprising.
Post edited January 24, 2011 by Navagon
Posted January 24, 2011
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Siannah: With all due respect, these "classifications" are never carved in stone and depending on point of views. And I find it incredibly boring (not to mention stupid) to discuss about if Band X or album Y belongs into this, that or another category.

After all, it's metal and it rocks - that's what really counts.
With all due respect, these "classifications" are actually useful. If you're so bothered by them, perhaps you'd enjoy a "map of sound" more. I find it tedious that people are quick to dismiss such discussion and go for the "it's all X" hand-wave dismissal. Finally, I do believe my suggestion does make sense, and, as I've noted, it's not unprecedented.
Posted January 24, 2011
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termit: as experimental as it gets ;)
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hyperagathon: I'd argue it's not really more experimental than any other crossover attempt - why is Metal+Trance > Metal+Rap for instance?
You have a point here, there are enough other types of mixed style experiments, although I do not think that rap + metal is a good example - there seem to be enough "public" groups doing this particular crossover, and I remember I have listened to Clawfinger years ago. Also, that song with Puff Daddy and Jimmy Page was quite the thing on MTV at the end of the 90s ;)
That is why I find this trance metal part experimental - it simply is not seen too often. The closest I have listened to Bloodstain Child before were some of the later albums of Theatre of Tragedy, and that would be more like happy-pop-dance-metal.
Posted January 24, 2011
Some of the song choices are a bit strange too, Grand Funk Railroad is in hard rock but they chose one of their less hard rock songs, Paranoid is a good song but compare it to Sin's A Good Man's Brother, that song could have been recorded by Sabbath and it'd have fit their style pretty well

And yeah, no soilwork... most glaring omission. At least there's one GWAR song even if its not one of their best
Posted January 24, 2011
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Tormentfan: It's 'ok'... that's all.

It's a nice collection of classic tracks especially for rock/metal afficionados.... but EITHER it's horribly inaccurate or is biased to what the Americans think.. and I'm sorry... but generally they don't do hard rock/ metal very well at all.

When they start putting Van Halen and Aerosmith in the same category as AC/DC, Zepp and Purple.. then someone is on something.

Halen and Aerosmith.. while perfectly acceptable as American heavy rock.. late Glam Rock even... they shouldn't be under Hard Rock as somekind of progenitors of the genre/s.

Here's one for the metalheads though...

DiAnno or Dickinson?

Anyone interested in the subject should track down Rock Family Tree.. from somewhere.

OH.. and any Brits over say... 37.. Go listen to.. Nantucket Sleighride (to Owen Coffin) By Mountain.. I love a look of surprise.
That "Folk Metal" category really should mention Jethro Tull.

I still love Dickinson but I always preferred Di'anno myself. Maiden Japan is still one of my favorite live albums.

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I actually saw the World Slavery Tour back in '85. Still one the best shows I've ever seen.
Post edited January 24, 2011 by HampsterStyle
Posted January 24, 2011
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Tormentfan: It's 'ok'... that's all.

It's a nice collection of classic tracks especially for rock/metal afficionados.... but EITHER it's horribly inaccurate or is biased to what the Americans think.. and I'm sorry... but generally they don't do hard rock/ metal very well at all.

When they start putting Van Halen and Aerosmith in the same category as AC/DC, Zepp and Purple.. then someone is on something.

Halen and Aerosmith.. while perfectly acceptable as American heavy rock.. late Glam Rock even... they shouldn't be under Hard Rock as somekind of progenitors of the genre/s.

Here's one for the metalheads though...

DiAnno or Dickinson?

Anyone interested in the subject should track down Rock Family Tree.. from somewhere.

OH.. and any Brits over say... 37.. Go listen to.. Nantucket Sleighride (to Owen Coffin) By Mountain.. I love a look of surprise.
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HampsterStyle: That "Folk Metal" category really should mention Jethro Tull.

I still love Dickinson but I always preferred Di'anno myself. Maiden Japan is still one of my favorite live albums.

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I actually saw the World Slavery Tour back in '85. Still one the best shows I've ever seen.
A man after my own heart... Remember Tomorrow and Running Free two of the best songs they ever did.

And no one worth their salt should be able to resist a bit of Tull. :)
Post edited January 25, 2011 by Tormentfan
Posted February 18, 2012
I am sure my dear friend Twilight will excuse me bumping this enlightening thread, mainly for following reasons: IT'S FUCKING AWESOME! ... Have fun.
Posted February 18, 2012
Dunno how I missed it first time around, but that site is pretty damn cool. Timely, too, since we just finished watching "Iron Maiden: Flight 666" on VH1 Classic.
Posted February 19, 2012
Not a fan of metal, but it's a great idea (until the record companies shut it down, anyway) and has a pleasing aesthetic. Needs a zoom function, though.
Posted February 19, 2012
I see a lot of my favorite artists are on it.
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