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Posted May 24, 2014
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monkeydelarge: And those 2 links you posted show me websites that are out of touch with reality. And you are using a .gov page to back you up? LOL Yeah and we can trust the news too? Not.. Like I said, the average person can't just increase their value and get another job quickly in real life. Some people, who are lucky enough to have the resources to do so can pull it off but the average person? No.
Well, if a business publication and the Bureau of Labor aren't good enough for you, what sorts of sources do you consider acceptable? That's a pretty ludicrous burden you're putting on truth, but I'll find you some sources that you won't shy from, unless you're just unhinged. As to your claims of what the average person can do, let's look at a few things: average unemployment rate is about six and a half percent (how do you feel about .orgs, then?), meaning the average person has a job. Average number of jobs in a lifetime - based on sources that you don't like, I'll grant - is in the ballpark of a dozen. Assuming those sources are wrong by 100%, that's still half a dozen jobs in a lifetime, which means the average person has lost a job and gotten another one. US GNP, by decade, has done but [url=http://useconomy.about.com/od/GDP-by-Year/a/US-GDP-History.htm]increase no matter what source makes you happy, and it seems to be increasing faster than national population, even adjusted for inflation, so the average worker has made themselves more valuable over time.

Your assumptions about the average person are a little depressing. Happily, truth doesn't bear those assumptions out. I'd like to see a source or two that you use to get a feel for what you consider acceptable.
Posted May 24, 2014
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monkeydelarge: And those 2 links you posted show me websites that are out of touch with reality. And you are using a .gov page to back you up? LOL Yeah and we can trust the news too? Not.. Like I said, the average person can't just increase their value and get another job quickly in real life. Some people, who are lucky enough to have the resources to do so can pull it off but the average person? No.
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OneFiercePuppy: Well, if a business publication and the Bureau of Labor aren't good enough for you, what sorts of sources do you consider acceptable? That's a pretty ludicrous burden you're putting on truth, but I'll find you some sources that you won't shy from, unless you're just unhinged. As to your claims of what the average person can do, let's look at a few things: average unemployment rate is about six and a half percent (how do you feel about .orgs, then?), meaning the average person has a job. Average number of jobs in a lifetime - based on sources that you don't like, I'll grant - is in the ballpark of a dozen. Assuming those sources are wrong by 100%, that's still half a dozen jobs in a lifetime, which means the average person has lost a job and gotten another one. US GNP, by decade, has done but [url=http://useconomy.about.com/od/GDP-by-Year/a/US-GDP-History.htm]increase no matter what source makes you happy, and it seems to be increasing faster than national population, even adjusted for inflation, so the average worker has made themselves more valuable over time.

Your assumptions about the average person are a little depressing. Happily, truth doesn't bear those assumptions out. I'd like to see a source or two that you use to get a feel for what you consider acceptable.
There really is no point in discussing this with someone who just wants to live in their happy bubble world and believe everything they hear and read from the news, magazines and the government. You wouldn't even take my sources seriously. So best for both of us to just move on.
Posted May 24, 2014
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monkeydelarge: There really is no point in discussing this with someone who just wants to live in their happy bubble world and believe everything they hear and read from the news, magazines and the government. You wouldn't even take my sources seriously. So best for both of us to just move on.
Ah, see, what you're doing there *is* insulting, as I'd indicated before. You offer no sources, yet claim mine are suspect. I take back my previous assumption. You're not worth the time I took to explain things.
Posted May 24, 2014
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monkeydelarge: There really is no point in discussing this with someone who just wants to live in their happy bubble world and believe everything they hear and read from the news, magazines and the government. You wouldn't even take my sources seriously. So best for both of us to just move on.
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OneFiercePuppy: Ah, see, what you're doing there *is* insulting, as I'd indicated before. You offer no sources, yet claim mine are suspect. I take back my previous assumption. You're not worth the time I took to explain things.
Yes, I'm not worth the time of lemmings.
Posted May 24, 2014
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NoNewTaleToTell: Shopping on the internet can be great, better prices, you can find a better selection etc etc, but regular stores definitely have their place. I found a small video game chain that still sells used games for consoles that have long since become outdated and was able to buy Bushido Blade there. Yeah you could say that I could have bought it online, but there is just something cool about walking into a store and finding stuff like that, that the internet can't fully replicate.
Its also easier to see the physical product and look for details you might miss or have not available to check with online stuff (ie - flicking through a few pages of a book you might buy feels better than just seeing the front, back cover and samples online --- if theres one thing i prefer in person is to browse books....)...a retail shop is *convenient*....
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awalterj: I found this picture online...it's eerie, haunting. Borders had great bookstores, and just like GOG it had a fair return policy and lots of cool sales. Went there almost every day, about half of my personal library consists of books I bought at that one store.
The best thing was the relaxed atmosphere, not once did I ever get pestered by staff even though I did quite a bit of freeloading and did not buy a book every single time I was there. Read the entire Kozure Okami series there and Vagabond vol 1 through about 18, did buy a couple volumes but naturally couldn't afford to buy everything. To make up for some of the gratuitous freeloading, I regularly bought drinks and cheese cake from the shop cafeteria (even though the famous Cheesecake Factory was right across the street).
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Elmofongo: Thats partly the reason Borders went down all the freeloading from just reading the books from the store instead of buying it and taking it to read at the comfort of your own home. I never bothered reading from the place because in my situation I cannot drive because I don't have a licsenes and experiance so I have to depend on my family to take me to places. Mabye if I did drive I would have freeloaded aswell but I still prefer to purchase a book I like and take it home.
I only went to a local Borders like a dozen times over the years they were here (the nearest one went belly up about 12 months or more - dunno about the rest) .I could remember people sitting and reading, but most seem to just browse buy or just go - not sure it was that common (except for magazine readers....personally i cant do the sit in shop and read a book thing).Shame i really loved browsing....
Post edited May 24, 2014 by Niggles
Posted May 25, 2014
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monkeydelarge: What bothers me about stores closing down is people losing their jobs. People losing jobs is bad for everyone.
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OneFiercePuppy: Man, that's some whiplash.

Also, competitive market == survival of the fittest. Capitalism has less to do with that, though since most capitalist economies operate in relatively free (and thus competitive) markets, it's a common mix-up.

Anyway, back to the point - people losing their jobs is *great* for everyone. When a job is simple enough to be performed by a machine, then the cost of doing that job decreases, which is the whole point of having an advanced infrastructure. It's a pain for the person who has to learn a new job, but that's how you keep improving your economy - maximizing your value. So you learn a job that a machine can't do, and thus the jobs continue to evolve apace with the technologies used in the workplace.
[url=now let's see how long it takes for someone to completely miss all of what just happened in that last paragraph][/url]
*doublefacepalm* Thats so detached from the real world that I don't even know where I could begin to start. Its from the big book of upper management fairy tales.
Posted May 25, 2014
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anothername: *doublefacepalm* Thats so detached from the real world that I don't even know where I could begin to start. Its from the big book of upper management fairy tales.
Only if you assume I'm saying something I'm not. Shame you didn't read on - I already explained it once on request.
Posted May 25, 2014
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anothername: *doublefacepalm* Thats so detached from the real world that I don't even know where I could begin to start. Its from the big book of upper management fairy tales.
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OneFiercePuppy: Only if you assume I'm saying something I'm not. Shame you didn't read on - I already explained it once on request.
Fair enough. I went back and read that and I do appreciate your time investment for clarification. But that all where really no news. I'm well aware of the arguments used. It probably just took me by surprise that there are still ppl out there embracing this as truth; sorry for the outburst.
Post edited May 25, 2014 by anothername
Posted May 25, 2014
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Elmofongo: Interestingly enough he did not mention The Pacific unless he happens to like World War II in the Pacific Theater.
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monkeydelarge: Personally, I don't like Band Of Brothers and The Pacific. Tour Of Duty is 100000 times better for my tastes. I also don't like the story of Saving Private Ryan but the battle scenes make up for it. The last battle with the SS attacking them...epic.
I always wanted to make a hold your ground Tactical Shooter like the final battle in Saving Private where communication is key to survival.
Posted May 25, 2014
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monkeydelarge: Personally, I don't like Band Of Brothers and The Pacific. Tour Of Duty is 100000 times better for my tastes. I also don't like the story of Saving Private Ryan but the battle scenes make up for it. The last battle with the SS attacking them...epic.
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Elmofongo: I always wanted to make a hold your ground Tactical Shooter like the final battle in Saving Private where communication is key to survival.
That would be awesome. Right now, the closest thing to that is Rising Storm and Red Orchestra 2. Towards the end of a battle in those games, it becomes like the final battle in Saving Private Ryan minus the German Tiger.
Post edited May 25, 2014 by monkeydelarge
Posted May 25, 2014
Fun thing, we also still have rental store around. Always wondering how the hell they can afford to stay open nowadays...
Posted May 25, 2014
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Elmofongo: snip
I'm not quite sure what I wrote anymore, something about something I would say.
Posted May 25, 2014
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Elmofongo: snip
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Tiefood: I'm not quite sure what I wrote anymore, something about something I would say.
Oh well "shrugs"
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