monkeydelarge: Your first sentence in the post. "Anyway, back to the point - people losing their jobs is *great* for everyone." You assume people can just go out and get another job quickly.... You assume wrong. Therefore, your entire post makes no sense. If you think I don't get it, be more clear to me instead of insulting my intelligence. I won't put up with that shit for long.
OneFiercePuppy: Nobody's insulting your intelligence. You're rather touchy, though. Also, you're again telling me what I'm saying, and wrong about it. So here's the more verbose version.
First of all, we're not disagreeing. Getting that clear might make this less painful. You absolutely agree with the statement that "people losing their jobs is *great* for everyone." It's possible we differ on degree. If everyone had the same job for the last two hundred years, we wouldn't have cars, computers, airplanes, or any of the trappings of modern life. It's absolutely necessary for the job market to change to accommodate new technologies. People losing their jobs in the fields as a result of farm machinery led to our ability to feed a population now more than seven times what it was in 1804 (when the world pop first hit 1 billion). But as a result of those lost manual labor jobs, knowledge worker and skilled jobs opened up in machinery construction and maintenance, as well as operation. People losing their jobs in the automobile industry to the assembly line led to increased rates of production, decreased costs of production, increased supply, increased demand, and then
more jobs in auto construction. People losing their jobs is critical to economic growth. Economic growth is great for everyone in the economy.
The ways to improve the total (and average) wealth of an economy are myriad, but one that certainly works is to increase the value of labor done more than the quantity of labor is decreased. I've shown several examples in that last paragraph of how losing jobs results in more specialized jobs with greater labor value. Thus, secondly, my post certainly does make sense. My objection to your strawman was that your strawman made no sense, but was not my point, though you claimed it to be.
Thirdly, it seems - based on both " You assume people can just go out and get another job quickly.... You assume wrong" and two comments you made in earlier posts - that your scope differs enough from mine to be a problem. Your comments speak to the loss to the individual. But they also assume that no new job will be held - an assumption that
is not well reflected
in reality. So to be less tactful for one sentence, you assume that a worker will not be able to get another job...you assume wrong.
If I'd been insulting your intelligence, I'd not have bothered to explain, claiming you wouldn't understand or some other condescending garbage. Stop trying to pick internet fights. It's tough to catch inflection in a text medium, so wait until you've got good reason to raise hackles.
"I tend to assume people on these forums are generally smart, so I'd ask you go over that one more time. "
I wasn't the one trying to pick a fight. Was that sentence really necessary? I wasn't being touchy.
If people lose their jobs to accommodate new technologies, then it's not entirely a bad thing for everyone. Because obviously new jobs are created etc. Okay, fine. You shouldn't think that new technology for mankind automatically = good for everyone though. But what if people lose their jobs and it's not because of new technology or they lose their jobs because of new technology but that new technology doesn't help create new jobs? And those 2 links you posted show me websites that are out of touch with reality. And you are using a .gov page to back you up? LOL Yeah and we can trust the news too? Not.. Like I said, the average person can't just increase their value and get another job quickly in real life. Some people, who are lucky enough to have the resources to do so can pull it off but the average person? No.