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monkeydelarge: I don't believe it's a world of social Darwinism. I believe, it all comes down to destiny.
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toxicTom: Believing in destiny is your choice (or not, if you're destined to *g*). For me this a too fatalistic approach. I'm kind of agnostic towards the idea of Karma - you reap what you sow either later or in the next life. It's a nice idea but it has this (for me too optimistic) concept that bad people will get punished eventually and good people will always get their reward. Just like the heaven/hell concept of other religions. Something to get the good people that suffer going (and keep them in line) while the bad people just don't give a fuck.

But I'm curious, I've come across multiple flavours of destiny-belief, care to elaborate yours?

I believe that the world around me (Germany that is) slowly descends into social darwinism. The interhuman climate has cooled down considerably in the last 20 years or so. The kiss-up-kick-down principle rules all layers of society. Those who panickedly work their ass off for minimum for fear of losing their job and living from meager welfare are the first to blame those poor welfare dependent sods for having too much and only being lazy. While the truth is that those people are forced to apply for any job at almost any condition and this is pushing the wages down.
Social envy is all the rage, but the perversion is that the working people envy the poor instead of looking where all that surplus goes that they are creating.
Can we do this over PM? The more I share my beliefs here, the more I will piss off some people and I'm already exhausted from dealing with MaximumBunny.
Post edited June 10, 2014 by monkeydelarge
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monkeydelarge: Can we do this over PM? The more I share my beliefs here, the more I will piss off some people and I'm already exhausted from dealing with MaximumBunny.
You have mail :-). I can totally understand this. As I said in that thread that shall remain forgotten, I would not open up totally in a place like this with being able to be found in all eternity by Google.
I'm a little bit drunk at the moment, and also I'm not sure if the OP's even following this thread anymore, but what the heck, I'll toss my few cents in. My mother used to told me "everything will work out" ever since I was a little kid. I didn't grow up in an ideal environment; my dad was a neglecting narcissist, and my mother had to provide for all of us in a very small town - they stuck together until I moved out, then got a divorce: fast forward about 8 years and everyone's a hundred times happier they were then: my dad's changed his ways, became more interested in all of us and lives a happy life, my mother has a little house and a garden she's always dreamed having, and I, even though naturally shy, have been together with a girl I love for about two years now and looking forward to spending the rest of my life with her.

If you do not succumb, things will eventually work out. The latest example of this I got today: for a while, I've had a part-time job which really doesn't pay that well because I can't put many hours in. Today, I had an interview, and first they made me do this presentation of how I would improve the digitization of their schooling centre, gave me 30 minutes, and left the room. For the first 5 minutes I was flabbergasted, didn't know how I would ever pull this off, but then reminded myself of my strengths on the field of media and created a simple plan, which I then proceeded to present to the people who interviewed me. I might have not known what the hell what I was talking about, but they still asked me by the end of the interview, if I would be interested to work at least as a freelancer for them, if not full-time, since they thought I was a good applicant. So what I'm saying here, believe in yourself, don't be afraid to take chances: it's not gonna hurt you, you know; educate yourself, and keep pushing forward: at some point, it will all work out.
Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for they become habits. Watch your habits, for they become character. Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.
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monkeydelarge: Can we do this over PM? The more I share my beliefs here, the more I will piss off some people and I'm already exhausted from dealing with MaximumBunny.
Oh? Try talking to an asperger's/depressive. I was being nice to you despite you being an undeserving asshole in the end full of BS. You mentioned your condition in another thread. That's the only reason I responded to your idiotic comments, out of sympathy/pity for your mental condition. Otherwise I'd just ignore you like that troll Telika.

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DProject: So what I'm saying here, believe in yourself, don't be afraid to take chances: it's not gonna hurt you, you know; educate yourself, and keep pushing forward: at some point, it will all work out.
Good for you! At least someone in this thread gets it. :>
I like how the board software says "Comment buried."
Lot of graves here, lately.
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monkeydelarge: Can we do this over PM? The more I share my beliefs here, the more I will piss off some people and I'm already exhausted from dealing with MaximumBunny.
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MaximumBunny: Oh? Try talking to an asperger's/depressive. I was being nice to you despite you being an undeserving asshole in the end full of BS. You mentioned your condition in another thread. That's the only reason I responded to your idiotic comments, out of sympathy/pity for your mental condition. Otherwise I'd just ignore you like that troll Telika.

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DProject: So what I'm saying here, believe in yourself, don't be afraid to take chances: it's not gonna hurt you, you know; educate yourself, and keep pushing forward: at some point, it will all work out.
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MaximumBunny: Good for you! At least someone in this thread gets it. :>
Good, unleash your rage and hatred to get it out of your system. Now let's just drop it. We both have nothing to gain from continuing this.

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monkeydelarge: Can we do this over PM? The more I share my beliefs here, the more I will piss off some people and I'm already exhausted from dealing with MaximumBunny.
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toxicTom: You have mail :-). I can totally understand this. As I said in that thread that shall remain forgotten, I would not open up totally in a place like this with being able to be found in all eternity by Google.
I was hoping that sharing my beliefs here would convert some people to the ancient way of thinking(to help make the world a better place) and attract some like minded people but that didn't happen so really no point in continuing unless I want to troll(and that's not how I roll). I'm aware of google and I'm not worried. I didn't write anything in this thread that I will want deleted in the future. When it comes to the beliefs I shared in this thread, I'm a fanatic so I doubt down the road, my beliefs will change.
Post edited June 10, 2014 by monkeydelarge
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iippo: Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for they become habits. Watch your habits, for they become character. Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.
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This one sounds great.
Unfortunately, I think that those lyrics were probably translated by Google, Bing or such translation machine. As a result, they are nonsensical and butchered.

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iippo: Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for they become habits. Watch your habits, for they become character. Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.
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"When a mind does not know itself, it is flawed. When a mind is flawed, the man is flawed. When a man is flawed, that which he touches is flawed. It is said that what a flawed man sees, his hands make broken." -Dak'kon the Pariah
"Watch your thoughts, for they becomes your destiny." Hmmm yeah I suppose.

"When a mind does not know itself, that which he touches is flawed." Hmmmmmmmm not sure...
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iippo: Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for they become habits. Watch your habits, for they become character. Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.
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AlKim: "When a mind does not know itself, it is flawed. When a mind is flawed, the man is flawed. When a man is flawed, that which he touches is flawed. It is said that what a flawed man sees, his hands make broken." -Dak'kon the Pariah
This one sounds great too!