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Hey Goggers;

As many of you know, we announced on last Friday that we are going to introduce regional pricing for 3 new games coming up on GOG.com soon. Looking at the amount of reactions (over 3,500 comments at this very moment), it is obvious that this change is making many of you guys worried. We must have failed to clearly explain why our pricing policy for (some) newer games will change and what this means as a matter of fact for our PC & MAC classic games, which account for over 80% of our catalogue.

To be honest, our announcement was a bit vague simply because our future pricing policy is not 100% set in stone yet and we were just worried to make any promises before it was. You know, GOG.com has been growing quickly (thanks to you!), and the more we grow, the more we are worried to make some of you guys disappointed. This is why we were so (over-)cautious with our announcement.

We should have just been upfront about why we've made these changes and what they mean for us in the future and what we're planning. So let's talk. To be clear: what I'm talking about below is our plan. It's a plan that we believe we can accomplish, but while it's what we want to do with GOG, it may change some before it actually sees the light of day. Please don’t blame me for talking open-heartedly today and telling you about the plans and pricing policy we want to fight for and eventually achieve. The below plans aren't sure. The only guarantee I can give you is that we’ll do our best to fight for gamers while still making sure GOG.com as a whole grows (because well, we still want to be around 50 years from now, you know!). So, enough for the introduction, let’s get things started.

Why does GOG.com need to offer newer games at all?

We've been in business for 5 years now, and we've signed a big percentage of all of the classic content that can be legally untangled. There are still some big companies left we're trying to bring into the GOG.com fold, like LucasArts, Microsoft, Take2 and Bethesda, but what classic titles will we sign in the future once we have those partners on-board? We need to sign newer games or else just fire everyone and keep selling the same limited catalog. Either we bring you “not so old” releases from 2010+ or brand-new AAA titles, because these will become classic games tomorrow. It’s as simple as that.

Also, well, we want to expand beyond just classic games, hence the fact we have been offering you brand-new indie releases for almost 2 years now. Why expanding? Well, obviously, because the more games we sell, the more legitimacy we have on the market and the more likely it is that we can achieve our mission: making all PC & MAC video games 100% DRM-free, whether classic or brand-new titles.

To be straightforward (excuse my French):DRM is shit-- we'll never have any of it. It treats legitimate customers like rubbish and pirates don't have to bother with it. It's bad for gamers, and it's also bad for business and our partners. We want to make it easy and convenient for users to buy and play games; rather than give piracy a try. Happy gamers equals a healthy gaming industry; and this is what we fight for. Anyway, I am sure you well know our opinions about DRM.

To make the world of gaming DRM-free, we need to convince top-tier publishers & developers to give us a try with new games, just like they did with classic games. We need to make more case studies for the gaming industry, just like we successfully did back in 2011 with The Witcher 2. It was our first ever 100% DRM-free AAA day-1 release. GOG.com was the 2nd best-selling digital distribution platform worldwide for this title thanks to you guys, despite having regional prices for it. We need more breakthroughs like this to be able to show all the devs and publishers in our industry that DRM-free digital distribution is actually good for their business and their fans. And when I say breakthroughs, I am talking about really kick-ass games, with a potential metacritic score of 85% or more, AA+ and AAA kind of titles.

And this is exactly why we signed those 3 games we told you about last Friday. We believe those 3 games can be massive hits for hardcore gamers, that they can help us spread the DRM-free model among the industry for newer games and we did our best to convince their rights holders to give GOG.com a try. One of those games, as you see already, is Age of Wonders 3. We're planning more titles even beyond these first 3 soon.

Alright, but why is regional pricing needed for those (only 3 so far!) newer games then?

First of all, you have to be aware of an important fact when it comes to newer games: GOG.com cannot really decide what the prices should be. Top-tier developers and publishers usually have contractual obligations with their retail partners that oblige them to offer the game at the same price digitally and in retail. When they don’t have such contractual obligations, they are still encouraged to do so, or else their games might not get any exposure on the shelves in your favorite shops. This will change over time (as digital sales should overtake retail sales in the near future), but as of today, this is still a problem our industry is facing because retail is a big chunk of revenue and there’s nothing GOG.com can do to change that. We need to charge the recommended retail price for the boxed copies of the games in order for developers (or publishers) to either not get sued or at least get their games visible on shelves. You may recall that our sister company CD Projekt RED got sued for that in the past and we don’t want our partners to suffer from that too.

On top of that, you have to know that there are still many top-tier devs and publishers that are scared about DRM-free gaming. They're half-convinced it will make piracy worse, and flat pricing means that we're also asking them to earn less, too. Earn less, you say? Why is that? Well, when we sell a game in the EU or UK, VAT gets deducted from the price before anyone receives any profit. That means we're asking our partners to try out DRM-free gaming and at the same time also earn 19% - 25% less from us. Other stores, such as Steam, price their games regionally and have pricing that's more equitable to developers and publishers. So flat pricing + DRM-Free is something many devs and publishers simply refuse. Can you blame them? The best argument we can make to convince a publisher or developer to try DRM-Free gaming is that it earns money. Telling them to sacrifice income while they try selling a game with no copy protection is not a way to make that argument.

Getting back to those 3 new upcoming games coming up. The first one is Age of Wonders 3, which you can pre-order right now on GOG.com. The next 2 ones will be Divine Divinity: Original Sin and The Witcher 3. We’re very excited to offer those games DRM-free worldwide and we hope you’ll love them.

Still, we know some countries are really being screwed with regional pricing (Western Europe, UK, Australia) and as mentioned above, we’ll do our very best, for every release of a new game, to convince our partners to offer something special for the gamers living there.

And don’t forget guys: if regional pricing for those few big (as in, “AA+”) new games is a problem for you, you can always wait. In a few months. The game will be discounted on sale, and at 60, 70, or 80% off, the price difference will be minimal indeed. In a few years it will become a classic in its own right, and then we have the possibility to to make it flat-priced anyway (read next!) The choice is always yours. All we are after is to present it to you 100% DRM-free. We are sure you will make the best choice for yourself, and let others enjoy their own freedom to make choices as well.

So, what is going to happen with classic games then?

Classic content accounts for about 80% of our catalog, so yes, this is a super important topic. We've mentioned here above that we can’t control prices for new games, but we do have a lot of influence when it comes to classic games. GOG.com is the store that made this market visible and viable digitally, and we're the ones who established the prices we charge. We believe that we have a good record to argue for fair pricing with our partners.

So let's talk about the pricing for classics that we're shooting for. For $5.99 classics, we would like to make the games 3.49 GBP, 4.49 EUR, 199 RUB, and $6.49 AUD. For $9.99 classics, our targets are 5.99 GBP, 7.49 EUR, 349 RUB, and $10.99 AUD. This is what we’ve got in mind at the moment. We’ll do our best to make that happen, and we think it will. How? Well, we have made our partners quite happy with GOG.com's sales for years - thanks to you guys :). We have created a global, legal, successful digital distribution market of classics for them. This market didn't exist 5 years ago. By (re)making all those games compatible with modern operating systems for MAC and PC, we've made forgotten games profitable again. When it comes to classic games, we can tell them that we know more about this market than anyone. :) Being retrogaming freaks ourselves, we know that 5.99 EUR or GBP is crazy expensive for a classic game (compared to 5.99 USD). We have always argued that classic games only sell well if they have reasonable prices. Unfair regional pricing equals piracy and that’s the last thing anybody wants.

What’s next?

We will do our very best to make all of the above happen. This means three things:

First, we will work to make our industry go DRM-free in the future for both classic and new games (that’s our mission!).

Second, we will fight hard to have an attractive offer for those AA+ new games for our European, British and Australian users, despite regional pricing that we have to stick to.

Third, we will switch to fair local pricing for classic games, as I mentioned above.

TheEnigmaticT earlier mentioned that he would eat his hat if we ever brought DRM to GOG.com. I'm going to go one step further: by the end of this year, I'm making the promise that we will have converted our classic catalog over to fair regional pricing as outlined above. If not, we'll set up a record a video of some horrible public shaming for me, TheEnigmaticT, and w0rma. In fact, you know what? Feel free to make suggestions below for something appropriate (but also safe enough that we won't get the video banned on YouTube) so you feel that we're motivated to get this done quickly. I'll pick one that's scary enough from the comments below and we'll let you know which one we're sticking to.

I hope that this explanation has helped ease your worry a bit and help you keep your faith in GOG.com as a place that's different, awesome, and that always fights for what's best for gamers. If you have any questions, comments or ideas, feel free to address them to us below and TheEnigmaticT and I will answer them to the best of our abilities tomorrow. We hear you loud and clear, so please do continue sharing your feedback with us. At the end of the day GOG.com is your place; without you guys it would just be a website where a few crazy people from Europe talk about old games. :)

I end many of my emails with this, but there's rarely a time to use it more appropriately than here:

“Best DRM-free wishes,

Guillaume Rambourg,
(TheFrenchMonk)
Managing Director -- GOG.com”
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CarrionCrow: Kinda wishing GOG would put out a fake front page with a pre-order for a lineup of 100 dollar games with preorder DLC, day 1 DLC, day 1 patches and always-online DRM requirements. It'd all be fake as hell, of course, but you'd pretty much be able to taste the rage. Definitely good for laughs. Give it a day or so of people indulging their every "WE WERE RIGHT GOG IS SATAN!!!!!!!!!!!!" fantasy, then turn around and casually reply that it was all a goof.
Or, even better, announce that all USD prices will increase by 35% effective next month and see if Americans will remain calm and continue to tell everybody to chill the fuck out because regional pricing is no big deal.
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CarrionCrow: Kinda wishing GOG would put out a fake front page with a pre-order for a lineup of 100 dollar games with preorder DLC, day 1 DLC, day 1 patches and always-online DRM requirements. It'd all be fake as hell, of course, but you'd pretty much be able to taste the rage. Definitely good for laughs. Give it a day or so of people indulging their every "WE WERE RIGHT GOG IS SATAN!!!!!!!!!!!!" fantasy, then turn around and casually reply that it was all a goof.
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spindown: Or, even better, announce that all USD prices will increase by 35% effective next month and see if Americans will remain calm and continue to tell everybody to chill the fuck out because regional pricing is no big deal.
Even better, as to ask "Why?" and nobody giving you an answer... :)
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skeletonbow: ...
I'm sorry but I cant read your (always) endless walls of text.
Eventually make a tdlr the end, otherwise I strongly believe that 99.9% of readers will just skip your posts.

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PixelBoy: Is anyone so naive that believes that this system won't become massively abused?
And when it does, there will be measures to prevent it, which will be a form of DRM.
Exactly, this will happen sooner rather than later, especially if one of those new AAA games that gog havent annouced yet because of the nda will truly be a aaa and will have a extremely tempting rusian price as aow3 has right now ... gifting from rusia will explode and gog will be forced to apply regional.drm from publisher pressure. Really explode because all those who cannot do it on steam (because regional bulshit is already implemented there) will come here to do it.
Post edited March 03, 2014 by mobutu
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CarrionCrow: Kinda wishing GOG would put out a fake front page with a pre-order for a lineup of 100 dollar games with preorder DLC, day 1 DLC, day 1 patches and always-online DRM requirements. It'd all be fake as hell, of course, but you'd pretty much be able to taste the rage. Definitely good for laughs. Give it a day or so of people indulging their every "WE WERE RIGHT GOG IS SATAN!!!!!!!!!!!!" fantasy, then turn around and casually reply that it was all a goof.
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spindown: Or, even better, announce that all USD prices will increase by 35% effective next month and see if Americans will remain calm and continue to tell everybody to chill the fuck out because regional pricing is no big deal.
I would just continue to buy my game where/when-ever it is cheapest, like I've always done. No biggie.
Post edited March 03, 2014 by lunah
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donsanderson: You know, this point was made very clearly about 4600 posts ago.
And has been made about 3000 more time since then.
PLEASE give it a rest will you?
We all know your stance on this very well by now. :/
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Ichwillnichtmehr: As long as there is a chance, that GOG.com will reverse their new "Regional Ripoff"-policy, and return ""One world, fair price" to their core values, I won't be giving it a rest.

If you have no problem getting ripped off, that's OK, but please let the people who have a problem with getting ripped off voice their displeasure.
+1'd that! We need such 'hardcorers' to maybe make GOG yet a bit fairer as they've planned to be initially ;-) (Especially for us Europeans) If someone wants his rest, don't follow THIS thread any further. That's a simple thing, right? ;P
Post edited March 03, 2014 by gamefood
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skeletonbow: ...
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mobutu: I'm sorry but I cant read your (always) endless walls of text.
Eventually make a tdlr the end, otherwise I strongly believe that 99.9% of readers will just skip your posts.

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PixelBoy: Is anyone so naive that believes that this system won't become massively abused?
And when it does, there will be measures to prevent it, which will be a form of DRM.
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mobutu: Exactly, this will happen sooner rather than later, especially if one of those new AAA games that gog havent annouced yet because of the nda will truly be a aaa and will have a extremely tempting rusian price as aow3 has right now ... gifting from rusia will explode and gog will be forced to apply regional.drm from publisher pressure. Really explode because all those who cannot do it on steam (because regional bulshit is already implemented there) will come here to do it.
QFT

With the coming of Witcher 3 (witch is a game i plan on getting day 1) why should i ovepay? (witch am tempted to do couse i like the game and gog, but that's a different story :P)

I can just find a russian buddy here and save big time...
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CarrionCrow: Kinda wishing GOG would put out a fake front page with a pre-order for a lineup of 100 dollar games with preorder DLC, day 1 DLC, day 1 patches and always-online DRM requirements. It'd all be fake as hell, of course, but you'd pretty much be able to taste the rage. Definitely good for laughs. Give it a day or so of people indulging their every "WE WERE RIGHT GOG IS SATAN!!!!!!!!!!!!" fantasy, then turn around and casually reply that it was all a goof.
International joke day, April 1st, isn't that far away.
Post edited March 03, 2014 by Maighstir
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Maighstir: International joke day, April 1st, isn't that far away.
Ready for a second shutdown?
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CarrionCrow: Kinda wishing GOG would put out a fake front page with a pre-order for a lineup of 100 dollar games with preorder DLC, day 1 DLC, day 1 patches and always-online DRM requirements. It'd all be fake as hell, of course, but you'd pretty much be able to taste the rage. Definitely good for laughs. Give it a day or so of people indulging their every "WE WERE RIGHT GOG IS SATAN!!!!!!!!!!!!" fantasy, then turn around and casually reply that it was all a goof.
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spindown: Or, even better, announce that all USD prices will increase by 35% effective next month and see if Americans will remain calm and continue to tell everybody to chill the fuck out because regional pricing is no big deal.
Uuuh, I'm pretty sure I've seen quite a couple members from the US be bummed out as we are... so you should really read before posting...
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spindown: Or, even better, announce that all USD prices will increase by 35% effective next month and see if Americans will remain calm and continue to tell everybody to chill the fuck out because regional pricing is no big deal.
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Zoidberg: Uuuh, I'm pretty sure I've seen quite a couple members from the US be bummed out as we are... so you should really read before posting...
I know, I'm actually one of them.
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Ichwillnichtmehr: As long as there is a chance, that GOG.com will reverse their new "Regional Ripoff"-policy, and return ""One world, fair price" to their core values, I won't be giving it a rest.

If you have no problem getting ripped off, that's OK, but please let the people who have a problem with getting ripped off voice their displeasure.
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gamefood: +1'd that! We need such 'hardcorers' to maybe make GOG yet a bit fairer as they've planned to be initially ;-) (Especially for us Europeans) If someone wants his rest, don't follow THIS thread any further. That's a simple thing, right? ;P
I actually have no problem when the people who are OK with the removal of "One world, fair price" from GOG.com's core values voice their reasons, and we then argue about those reasons.
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Zoidberg: Uuuh, I'm pretty sure I've seen quite a couple members from the US be bummed out as we are... so you should really read before posting...
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spindown: I know, I'm actually one of them.
;)
Post edited March 03, 2014 by Ichwillnichtmehr
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CarrionCrow: Kinda wishing GOG would put out a fake front page with a pre-order for a lineup of 100 dollar games with preorder DLC, day 1 DLC, day 1 patches and always-online DRM requirements. It'd all be fake as hell, of course, but you'd pretty much be able to taste the rage. Definitely good for laughs. Give it a day or so of people indulging their every "WE WERE RIGHT GOG IS SATAN!!!!!!!!!!!!" fantasy, then turn around and casually reply that it was all a goof.
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spindown: Or, even better, announce that all USD prices will increase by 35% effective next month and see if Americans will remain calm and continue to tell everybody to chill the fuck out because regional pricing is no big deal.
Actually this sounds like an excellent plan! GoG.com can use that additional cash to improve the service and support more indie initiatives! Nobody can be against that since it gives more games in the end and everyone gets a better service. Solidarity, I vote for that.
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CarrionCrow: Kinda wishing GOG would put out a fake front page with a pre-order for a lineup of 100 dollar games with preorder DLC, day 1 DLC, day 1 patches and always-online DRM requirements. It'd all be fake as hell, of course, but you'd pretty much be able to taste the rage. Definitely good for laughs. Give it a day or so of people indulging their every "WE WERE RIGHT GOG IS SATAN!!!!!!!!!!!!" fantasy, then turn around and casually reply that it was all a goof.
I wish all this regional pricing policy was fake... But this is not a joke. You may laugh, but you shouldn’t. And maybe, in near future, you will see GOG's games with that "always-online DRM" you want so bad.

And trust me, I wouldn't laugh if that would happened to U.S. and Canadian customers.
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TheEnigmaticT: ...
I probably won't get an answer to this question (or maybe it was mentioned in the letter) but I figure it's worth a shot: do you have reason to believe that some of the publishers (with classics) you don't have here may be attracted to DRM-free if regional pricing is included? The three titles mentioned are decent, but they don't seem like strong enough reasons to drop one world price.
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spindown: Or, even better, announce that all USD prices will increase by 35% effective next month and see if Americans will remain calm and continue to tell everybody to chill the fuck out because regional pricing is no big deal.
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jpvg: Actually this sounds like an excellent plan! GoG.com can use that additional cash to improve the service and support more indie initiatives! Nobody can be against that since it gives more games in the end and everyone gets a better service. Solidarity, I vote for that.
It really does sound like an excelent plan.

Everyone, no matter where they are from, will pay the highest set price from around the world.

This way, we will see even more AAA games here on GOG.com, because now publishers will have an even better incentive to bring their game DRM-free to GOG.com.

All that extra profit comming from USA /Canada would be a big deal for publishers.
Post edited March 03, 2014 by Ichwillnichtmehr