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Hey Goggers;

As many of you know, we announced on last Friday that we are going to introduce regional pricing for 3 new games coming up on GOG.com soon. Looking at the amount of reactions (over 3,500 comments at this very moment), it is obvious that this change is making many of you guys worried. We must have failed to clearly explain why our pricing policy for (some) newer games will change and what this means as a matter of fact for our PC & MAC classic games, which account for over 80% of our catalogue.

To be honest, our announcement was a bit vague simply because our future pricing policy is not 100% set in stone yet and we were just worried to make any promises before it was. You know, GOG.com has been growing quickly (thanks to you!), and the more we grow, the more we are worried to make some of you guys disappointed. This is why we were so (over-)cautious with our announcement.

We should have just been upfront about why we've made these changes and what they mean for us in the future and what we're planning. So let's talk. To be clear: what I'm talking about below is our plan. It's a plan that we believe we can accomplish, but while it's what we want to do with GOG, it may change some before it actually sees the light of day. Please don’t blame me for talking open-heartedly today and telling you about the plans and pricing policy we want to fight for and eventually achieve. The below plans aren't sure. The only guarantee I can give you is that we’ll do our best to fight for gamers while still making sure GOG.com as a whole grows (because well, we still want to be around 50 years from now, you know!). So, enough for the introduction, let’s get things started.

Why does GOG.com need to offer newer games at all?

We've been in business for 5 years now, and we've signed a big percentage of all of the classic content that can be legally untangled. There are still some big companies left we're trying to bring into the GOG.com fold, like LucasArts, Microsoft, Take2 and Bethesda, but what classic titles will we sign in the future once we have those partners on-board? We need to sign newer games or else just fire everyone and keep selling the same limited catalog. Either we bring you “not so old” releases from 2010+ or brand-new AAA titles, because these will become classic games tomorrow. It’s as simple as that.

Also, well, we want to expand beyond just classic games, hence the fact we have been offering you brand-new indie releases for almost 2 years now. Why expanding? Well, obviously, because the more games we sell, the more legitimacy we have on the market and the more likely it is that we can achieve our mission: making all PC & MAC video games 100% DRM-free, whether classic or brand-new titles.

To be straightforward (excuse my French):DRM is shit-- we'll never have any of it. It treats legitimate customers like rubbish and pirates don't have to bother with it. It's bad for gamers, and it's also bad for business and our partners. We want to make it easy and convenient for users to buy and play games; rather than give piracy a try. Happy gamers equals a healthy gaming industry; and this is what we fight for. Anyway, I am sure you well know our opinions about DRM.

To make the world of gaming DRM-free, we need to convince top-tier publishers & developers to give us a try with new games, just like they did with classic games. We need to make more case studies for the gaming industry, just like we successfully did back in 2011 with The Witcher 2. It was our first ever 100% DRM-free AAA day-1 release. GOG.com was the 2nd best-selling digital distribution platform worldwide for this title thanks to you guys, despite having regional prices for it. We need more breakthroughs like this to be able to show all the devs and publishers in our industry that DRM-free digital distribution is actually good for their business and their fans. And when I say breakthroughs, I am talking about really kick-ass games, with a potential metacritic score of 85% or more, AA+ and AAA kind of titles.

And this is exactly why we signed those 3 games we told you about last Friday. We believe those 3 games can be massive hits for hardcore gamers, that they can help us spread the DRM-free model among the industry for newer games and we did our best to convince their rights holders to give GOG.com a try. One of those games, as you see already, is Age of Wonders 3. We're planning more titles even beyond these first 3 soon.

Alright, but why is regional pricing needed for those (only 3 so far!) newer games then?

First of all, you have to be aware of an important fact when it comes to newer games: GOG.com cannot really decide what the prices should be. Top-tier developers and publishers usually have contractual obligations with their retail partners that oblige them to offer the game at the same price digitally and in retail. When they don’t have such contractual obligations, they are still encouraged to do so, or else their games might not get any exposure on the shelves in your favorite shops. This will change over time (as digital sales should overtake retail sales in the near future), but as of today, this is still a problem our industry is facing because retail is a big chunk of revenue and there’s nothing GOG.com can do to change that. We need to charge the recommended retail price for the boxed copies of the games in order for developers (or publishers) to either not get sued or at least get their games visible on shelves. You may recall that our sister company CD Projekt RED got sued for that in the past and we don’t want our partners to suffer from that too.

On top of that, you have to know that there are still many top-tier devs and publishers that are scared about DRM-free gaming. They're half-convinced it will make piracy worse, and flat pricing means that we're also asking them to earn less, too. Earn less, you say? Why is that? Well, when we sell a game in the EU or UK, VAT gets deducted from the price before anyone receives any profit. That means we're asking our partners to try out DRM-free gaming and at the same time also earn 19% - 25% less from us. Other stores, such as Steam, price their games regionally and have pricing that's more equitable to developers and publishers. So flat pricing + DRM-Free is something many devs and publishers simply refuse. Can you blame them? The best argument we can make to convince a publisher or developer to try DRM-Free gaming is that it earns money. Telling them to sacrifice income while they try selling a game with no copy protection is not a way to make that argument.

Getting back to those 3 new upcoming games coming up. The first one is Age of Wonders 3, which you can pre-order right now on GOG.com. The next 2 ones will be Divine Divinity: Original Sin and The Witcher 3. We’re very excited to offer those games DRM-free worldwide and we hope you’ll love them.

Still, we know some countries are really being screwed with regional pricing (Western Europe, UK, Australia) and as mentioned above, we’ll do our very best, for every release of a new game, to convince our partners to offer something special for the gamers living there.

And don’t forget guys: if regional pricing for those few big (as in, “AA+”) new games is a problem for you, you can always wait. In a few months. The game will be discounted on sale, and at 60, 70, or 80% off, the price difference will be minimal indeed. In a few years it will become a classic in its own right, and then we have the possibility to to make it flat-priced anyway (read next!) The choice is always yours. All we are after is to present it to you 100% DRM-free. We are sure you will make the best choice for yourself, and let others enjoy their own freedom to make choices as well.

So, what is going to happen with classic games then?

Classic content accounts for about 80% of our catalog, so yes, this is a super important topic. We've mentioned here above that we can’t control prices for new games, but we do have a lot of influence when it comes to classic games. GOG.com is the store that made this market visible and viable digitally, and we're the ones who established the prices we charge. We believe that we have a good record to argue for fair pricing with our partners.

So let's talk about the pricing for classics that we're shooting for. For $5.99 classics, we would like to make the games 3.49 GBP, 4.49 EUR, 199 RUB, and $6.49 AUD. For $9.99 classics, our targets are 5.99 GBP, 7.49 EUR, 349 RUB, and $10.99 AUD. This is what we’ve got in mind at the moment. We’ll do our best to make that happen, and we think it will. How? Well, we have made our partners quite happy with GOG.com's sales for years - thanks to you guys :). We have created a global, legal, successful digital distribution market of classics for them. This market didn't exist 5 years ago. By (re)making all those games compatible with modern operating systems for MAC and PC, we've made forgotten games profitable again. When it comes to classic games, we can tell them that we know more about this market than anyone. :) Being retrogaming freaks ourselves, we know that 5.99 EUR or GBP is crazy expensive for a classic game (compared to 5.99 USD). We have always argued that classic games only sell well if they have reasonable prices. Unfair regional pricing equals piracy and that’s the last thing anybody wants.

What’s next?

We will do our very best to make all of the above happen. This means three things:

First, we will work to make our industry go DRM-free in the future for both classic and new games (that’s our mission!).

Second, we will fight hard to have an attractive offer for those AA+ new games for our European, British and Australian users, despite regional pricing that we have to stick to.

Third, we will switch to fair local pricing for classic games, as I mentioned above.

TheEnigmaticT earlier mentioned that he would eat his hat if we ever brought DRM to GOG.com. I'm going to go one step further: by the end of this year, I'm making the promise that we will have converted our classic catalog over to fair regional pricing as outlined above. If not, we'll set up a record a video of some horrible public shaming for me, TheEnigmaticT, and w0rma. In fact, you know what? Feel free to make suggestions below for something appropriate (but also safe enough that we won't get the video banned on YouTube) so you feel that we're motivated to get this done quickly. I'll pick one that's scary enough from the comments below and we'll let you know which one we're sticking to.

I hope that this explanation has helped ease your worry a bit and help you keep your faith in GOG.com as a place that's different, awesome, and that always fights for what's best for gamers. If you have any questions, comments or ideas, feel free to address them to us below and TheEnigmaticT and I will answer them to the best of our abilities tomorrow. We hear you loud and clear, so please do continue sharing your feedback with us. At the end of the day GOG.com is your place; without you guys it would just be a website where a few crazy people from Europe talk about old games. :)

I end many of my emails with this, but there's rarely a time to use it more appropriately than here:

“Best DRM-free wishes,

Guillaume Rambourg,
(TheFrenchMonk)
Managing Director -- GOG.com”
I'd wager I'm in the minority here, but I don't really care about regional pricing. If I see a game I want, the judgement I make is whether I could better use the money it costs elsewhere. If I can, I don't buy it. Otherwise I generally do. Whether someone is paying more or less than me is not really a factor in my decision (although, I do shop around).

GOG, feel free to charge whatever you and your partners like (not that you need permission), bearing in mind that I'll only buy what I think is a fair price. Just don't start bundling DRM, because then I am almost certainly shopping elsewhere!

EDIT: Oh, and I should mention that I'm Australian, so I'm not getting one of the long straws here. ;-)
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As long as GOG stays DRM-free (and mandatory client free) I'll keep shopping. If it's a game I want and the price is acceptable and no DRM, I'll add it to my shelf.

I wonder if anyone has done any metrics on this thread. Like how many unique posters (compared to say their entire customer base). And of those unique posters, how many posts per unique ID. And then compare the "tone" of each of those posts (particularly over time since the news of the price change broke).

Because this seems to me like "most" posters are the same folks, re-posting their dislike of the change OVER AND OVER, getting more and more "rabid" as the thread grows. But again, without some metrics that's all just a guess.

But you have posters here talking about how GOG is "waving their dick around" and "ripping off everyone" and "speaking volumes for how little they think of customers", "cheating all their customers" and the like. The hyperbole level is ridiculous (it's approaching ludicrous speed).

While I in past days have sympathized with those that are unhappy with the price change, that sympathy is draining away daily; just due to the worsening "tone" and "loudness" of the "mob" over the days.
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kaileeena: For now I am done with this topic and this DD, maybe if there is a great deal , I will consider them but for now my backlog is huge to consider buying any other games for years to come:) Peace guys
Same for me. :)

I have a backlog of more than 250 games, so GOG deciding to introduce regional pricing just means I'll be spending no more money on games for the foreseeable future.

I've spent the last few years 'supporting developers' and the last two years 'supporting GOG'. My mistake.

It won't happen again.

Now, I'm officially done with the topic of GOG's regional pricing, as it's obvious they've made their decision so, as the saying goes they've made their bed, let them lie in it. And don't blame your once loyal customers like me when the nightmares hit. As they will, and as they will be rightfully deserved.
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Martek: As long as GOG stays DRM-free (and mandatory client free) I'll keep shopping. If it's a game I want and the price is acceptable and no DRM, I'll add it to my shelf.

I wonder if anyone has done any metrics on this thread. Like how many unique posters (compared to say their entire customer base). And of those unique posters, how many posts per unique ID. And then compare the "tone" of each of those posts (particularly over time since the news of the price change broke).

Because this seems to me like "most" posters are the same folks, re-posting their dislike of the change OVER AND OVER, getting more and more "rabid" as the thread grows. But again, without some metrics that's all just a guess.

But you have posters here talking about how GOG is "waving their dick around" and "ripping off everyone" and "speaking volumes for how little they think of customers", "cheating all their customers" and the like. The hyperbole level is ridiculous (it's approaching ludicrous speed).

While I in past days have sympathized with those that are unhappy with the price change, that sympathy is draining away daily; just due to the worsening "tone" and "loudness" of the "mob" over the days.
Does seem to be a bit pointless at this stage since even if GOG does decide to reverse the policy, kinda doubting that they'll do so with anything less than several months to a year's worth of data regarding sales of both new items and old. Will probably be a longer evaluation period than that realistically since in the statement by Guillaume, he was pledging that they'd have the entirety of the catalog transferred to the new pricing setup by the end of the year. Would say that it'll be at the very least six months after implementation of that policy before they have enough information to feel it's the best possible approach to take.
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Raventiger: I just wanted to make an observation about steam, and the reason why I'll be sticking with GOG.

First I've bought games from both platforms. I've always had a preference for GOG because of their no DRM stance, so if I can pick up a game I want from GOG, that's where I get it.

When I pick up a classic game from GOG, provided that the system requirements are met, I can play that game on my system. The few times I have problems, GOG has provided me with support to get the game up and running.

Recently I picked up KOTOR on steam. It wont run on my system, there's no support from steam to get it to run, and they do nothing to ensure that the classic games they sell will run on modern hardware/OSes. That's my lose, and a lesson learnt. I wont be picking up classic games from Steam again.

Personally I feel GOG's regional pricing on their classic games is fair. So long as they keep those prices fair, provide the support to get the games running, and remain DRM free, I'll purchase games from them.
THIS! The one thing, besides and even greater than DRM that keeps me coming back to GOG is that their games just work. From Steam, it's really hit or miss as to whether classic games will run on a modern system eithar at all, or with a ton of tweaking, and Steam simply doesn't care. From GOG, I KNOW that if they say it will run on my OS it WILL run, with no problems or messing with .ini files necessary. As long as GOG maitains this standard, that alone will keep me coming back.

Also, the people who claim that because of this change, they will go buy from the other companies, why? If this change makes them "just like the others" as you say, then what's the advantage of going through one of the other companies? It makes no sense.
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JudasIscariot: Regarding VPN's here is TET's earlier response.
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SirPrimalform: I don't see VPNs mentioned anywhere in that post...
I think he means this part
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StormHammer: - How will you prevent people from simply faking accounts in other (cheaper) regions to get around the regional pricing system?
The same way we prevent pirates from downloading our games from torrents. :)
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Raventiger: I just wanted to make an observation about steam, and the reason why I'll be sticking with GOG.

First I've bought games from both platforms. I've always had a preference for GOG because of their no DRM stance, so if I can pick up a game I want from GOG, that's where I get it.

When I pick up a classic game from GOG, provided that the system requirements are met, I can play that game on my system. The few times I have problems, GOG has provided me with support to get the game up and running.

Recently I picked up KOTOR on steam. It wont run on my system, there's no support from steam to get it to run, and they do nothing to ensure that the classic games they sell will run on modern hardware/OSes. That's my lose, and a lesson learnt. I wont be picking up classic games from Steam again.

Personally I feel GOG's regional pricing on their classic games is fair. So long as they keep those prices fair, provide the support to get the games running, and remain DRM free, I'll purchase games from them.
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ravendruid: THIS! The one thing, besides and even greater than DRM that keeps me coming back to GOG is that their games just work. From Steam, it's really hit or miss as to whether classic games will run on a modern system eithar at all, or with a ton of tweaking, and Steam simply doesn't care. From GOG, I KNOW that if they say it will run on my OS it WILL run, with no problems or messing with .ini files necessary. As long as GOG maitains this standard, that alone will keep me coming back.

Also, the people who claim that because of this change, they will go buy from the other companies, why? If this change makes them "just like the others" as you say, then what's the advantage of going through one of the other companies? It makes no sense.
I'd argue that the advantage is the fact that these other companies didn't have lack of regional pricing as a cornerstone of their business. GOG seemed to use it earlier on as sort of a moral superiority, and a lot of people seem to have fallen into trusting the company. Seeing them throwing this away is disturbing, and they really don't see the need to give a company their business that is going to go back on their promises with nothing but 'cute videos' as a payment if the classics don't go onto a fair regional pricing scheme. It's honestly something where I'm at.
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Ichwillnichtmehr: To be honest, if they wanted to make more currencies available so that customers "wouldn't get confused by all the $/€/£/etc.", they could have done so without abandoning the "one world, one price"-core value, so that excuse doesn't cut it for me.
I think it happened the other way around. Doing it for the whole catalogue was a follow up idea after they decided they needed to implement it for the new AAA (or almost) titles.

This "explains" why the most risky part of the whole change they haven't thought about so well, and also to some extent why the communication was a bit iffy.
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Honestly, I'm not sure what to say with this. My original thought was, to give this a chance to see what happens, to not just jump into the piles of people who are calling for the end of the DRM-free revolution. But, as I sit here (without a computer, so little distractions in terms of being able to play games), I've been realizing how sour the taste of this has been for me.

Ok, I'm going to note the date of join on my profile...I was one of the first group of people to join GOG, salivating at the idea that I'd be able to play some of the games that I had missed from the golden age of pc gaming. I've bought a lot of games here, and built up yet another backlog of games.

I was really disappointed back on the closing marketing stunt, and maybe the shock should have been the end of things for me and this site. I had just bought a game the day before and didn't get a chance to download it until the site came back up. I was disappointed and angry about it. I gave the benefit of the doubt though when you guys came back, I sorta understood that you had to do technical work, but I was still disturbed by the whole thing, and didn't really get amused by the monk video.

I was willing to give you guys the benefit of the doubt with The Witcher 2, it was a situation beyond your control and it was something that obviously had to happen.

But this? This is within your control, this isn't beyond your ability to fight. And the fact that you guys act like you have no power is starting to feel insulting. GOG has continued to build a loyal following and have had a windfall of games that I found here first instead of Steam. It's a little frustrating how you have gone about it, and the replies about questions from the people on this forum have been scary to me.

Fine, I get it, I'm an American, I shouldn't be complaining because I'm not affected...but that's a load of crap because me staying silent doesn't help the people who are. The fact that you're willing to give up your values for 3 games (because these are the only games that you mentioned), is disturbing. But here's a question, a gods honest question. What ways are you willing to go to keep people from bypassing the regional prices? Just shrugging your shoulders and pretending it's not happening isn't going to be enough for publishers who are going to see this as weakness and blood in the water.
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GOG.com: TheEnigmaticT earlier mentioned that he would eat his hat if we ever brought DRM to GOG.com. I'm going to go one step further: by the end of this year, I'm making the promise that we will have converted our classic catalog over to fair regional pricing as outlined above. If not, we'll set up a record a video of some horrible public shaming for me, TheEnigmaticT, and w0rma. In fact, you know what? Feel free to make suggestions below for something appropriate (but also safe enough that we won't get the video banned on YouTube) so you feel that we're motivated to get this done quickly. I'll pick one that's scary enough from the comments below and we'll let you know which one we're sticking to.
From someone who was here for the 'GOG Closing Stunt', I find the video idea to be pretty insulting at this point. This is GOG's MO for this stuff. Do something that really has no positive spin, and make a silly video to show humility. So I'm not giving you anything. Maybe instead of looking for ideas for 'Horrible Public Shaming', you can start looking at ways to start rebuilding the lost trust you have with me and a LOT of people in this forums.

I don't know what I'm doing with this yet, because I refuse to react in hot anger. But at the very least, I no longer feel a reason to promote this site the way I have in the past. I don't think you guys deserve the trust I put in the DRM-Free Revolution, because I don't think the bigwigs in this company really care about the values that they pushed forward 5-6 years ago.
Lot of rhetoric getting thrown around in this thread...My view is that, while they may not have NEEDED to take this step, they have taken it with the intent of bringing in more games to offer us and to open up inroads with companies that wouldn't work with them before. Regional pricing is a thing - it's been a thing with a number of markets for a long time. Yes it sucks with digital products which, beyond relevent taxes, clearly don't have differing regional costs to produce. That said, the control is entirely with the customer, with YOU, as to whether the price offered is a price you're prepared to pay for something. Think it's too high? Don't buy. Wait for a sale (with GoG that seems to be about 3 days!).

The vitriol and hostility in here from some quarters is astounding. I feel that the GoG guys have shown time and again that they're unlike most of the industry and they go out of their way to offer us a good deal. How many companies give away free games? How many discount this heavily 70-80% off titles? How many communicate this openly about business issues, and explain themselves to customers? You can argue that making concessions to publishers about regional pricing in order to open up deals with them is a wrong step, sure. I can see how you'd feel that way. But I think the aspersions cast on their motives and intentions over it are unfair, and ignore all their other work. They could have communicated things a little better, but I think that they really do believe this is good news in opening up these deals, and the potential further deals that they can build on this at the GDC.

I don't think you can claim calculated expolitative ploy to fleece their customers suddenly, when they have no reason to spontaneously become that and it doesn't track with their past actions at all. Ultimately the fact remains, if you don't like the price something is offered at then you have zero obligation to buy it. If it merely being available drives you craz\y...well, that's your baggage I guess, I fail to see why others should have to share it with you.

Good luck GoG Team
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TwilightBard: Honestly, I'm not sure what to say with this. My original thought was, to give this a chance to see what happens, to not just jump into the piles of people who are calling for the end of the DRM-free revolution. But, as I sit here (without a computer, so little distractions in terms of being able to play games), I've been realizing how sour the taste of this has been for me.

Ok, I'm going to note the date of join on my profile...I was one of the first group of people to join GOG, salivating at the idea that I'd be able to play some of the games that I had missed from the golden age of pc gaming. I've bought a lot of games here, and built up yet another backlog of games.

I was really disappointed back on the closing marketing stunt, and maybe the shock should have been the end of things for me and this site. I had just bought a game the day before and didn't get a chance to download it until the site came back up. I was disappointed and angry about it. I gave the benefit of the doubt though when you guys came back, I sorta understood that you had to do technical work, but I was still disturbed by the whole thing, and didn't really get amused by the monk video.

I was willing to give you guys the benefit of the doubt with The Witcher 2, it was a situation beyond your control and it was something that obviously had to happen.

But this? This is within your control, this isn't beyond your ability to fight. And the fact that you guys act like you have no power is starting to feel insulting. GOG has continued to build a loyal following and have had a windfall of games that I found here first instead of Steam. It's a little frustrating how you have gone about it, and the replies about questions from the people on this forum have been scary to me.

Fine, I get it, I'm an American, I shouldn't be complaining because I'm not affected...but that's a load of crap because me staying silent doesn't help the people who are. The fact that you're willing to give up your values for 3 games (because these are the only games that you mentioned), is disturbing. But here's a question, a gods honest question. What ways are you willing to go to keep people from bypassing the regional prices? Just shrugging your shoulders and pretending it's not happening isn't going to be enough for publishers who are going to see this as weakness and blood in the water.
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GOG.com: TheEnigmaticT earlier mentioned that he would eat his hat if we ever brought DRM to GOG.com. I'm going to go one step further: by the end of this year, I'm making the promise that we will have converted our classic catalog over to fair regional pricing as outlined above. If not, we'll set up a record a video of some horrible public shaming for me, TheEnigmaticT, and w0rma. In fact, you know what? Feel free to make suggestions below for something appropriate (but also safe enough that we won't get the video banned on YouTube) so you feel that we're motivated to get this done quickly. I'll pick one that's scary enough from the comments below and we'll let you know which one we're sticking to.
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TwilightBard: From someone who was here for the 'GOG Closing Stunt', I find the video idea to be pretty insulting at this point. This is GOG's MO for this stuff. Do something that really has no positive spin, and make a silly video to show humility. So I'm not giving you anything. Maybe instead of looking for ideas for 'Horrible Public Shaming', you can start looking at ways to start rebuilding the lost trust you have with me and a LOT of people in this forums.

I don't know what I'm doing with this yet, because I refuse to react in hot anger. But at the very least, I no longer feel a reason to promote this site the way I have in the past. I don't think you guys deserve the trust I put in the DRM-Free Revolution, because I don't think the bigwigs in this company really care about the values that they pushed forward 5-6 years ago.
Fantastic post, this sums up my feelings exactly.
+1000 rep to you
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TwilightBard: Honestly, I'm not sure what to say with this. My original thought was, to give this a chance to see what happens, to not just jump into the piles of people who are calling for the end of the DRM-free revolution. But, as I sit here (without a computer, so little distractions in terms of being able to play games), I've been realizing how sour the taste of this has been for me.

Ok, I'm going to note the date of join on my profile...I was one of the first group of people to join GOG, salivating at the idea that I'd be able to play some of the games that I had missed from the golden age of pc gaming. I've bought a lot of games here, and built up yet another backlog of games.

I was really disappointed back on the closing marketing stunt, and maybe the shock should have been the end of things for me and this site. I had just bought a game the day before and didn't get a chance to download it until the site came back up. I was disappointed and angry about it. I gave the benefit of the doubt though when you guys came back, I sorta understood that you had to do technical work, but I was still disturbed by the whole thing, and didn't really get amused by the monk video.

I was willing to give you guys the benefit of the doubt with The Witcher 2, it was a situation beyond your control and it was something that obviously had to happen.

But this? This is within your control, this isn't beyond your ability to fight. And the fact that you guys act like you have no power is starting to feel insulting. GOG has continued to build a loyal following and have had a windfall of games that I found here first instead of Steam. It's a little frustrating how you have gone about it, and the replies about questions from the people on this forum have been scary to me.

Fine, I get it, I'm an American, I shouldn't be complaining because I'm not affected...but that's a load of crap because me staying silent doesn't help the people who are. The fact that you're willing to give up your values for 3 games (because these are the only games that you mentioned), is disturbing. But here's a question, a gods honest question. What ways are you willing to go to keep people from bypassing the regional prices? Just shrugging your shoulders and pretending it's not happening isn't going to be enough for publishers who are going to see this as weakness and blood in the water.

From someone who was here for the 'GOG Closing Stunt', I find the video idea to be pretty insulting at this point. This is GOG's MO for this stuff. Do something that really has no positive spin, and make a silly video to show humility. So I'm not giving you anything. Maybe instead of looking for ideas for 'Horrible Public Shaming', you can start looking at ways to start rebuilding the lost trust you have with me and a LOT of people in this forums.

I don't know what I'm doing with this yet, because I refuse to react in hot anger. But at the very least, I no longer feel a reason to promote this site the way I have in the past. I don't think you guys deserve the trust I put in the DRM-Free Revolution, because I don't think the bigwigs in this company really care about the values that they pushed forward 5-6 years ago.
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rmuchall: Fantastic post, this sums up my feelings exactly.
+1000 rep to you
QTF. Oh boy, have I feel wrong for promoting GOG everywhere I could since 2008 ^^
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Selderij: 3. Regional prices aren't fair to begin with, if by fair you mean that poor people get games cheaper. Russians, Poles and Pope Francis(?) get their games cheaper, everyone else pays the same or more than North Americans.
Vatican is not part of EU, but has Euro as the official currency.

Pope should be paying the same price as surrounding Euro countries, most notably Italy. Was what you wrote simply a joke that kind of fell short of target because of factual errors, or is Vatican really getting dollar pricing?

If the latter is the case, then there is either a serious bug in the pricing model, or it is even more unfair than it originally seemed. It would mean that some legit Euro countries are actually getting US$ prices, whereas some European countries with independent national currencies are forced to get Euro prices.
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Selderij: 3. Regional prices aren't fair to begin with, if by fair you mean that poor people get games cheaper. Russians, Poles and Pope Francis(?) get their games cheaper, everyone else pays the same or more than North Americans.
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PixelBoy: Vatican is not part of EU, but has Euro as the official currency.

Pope should be paying the same price as surrounding Euro countries, most notably Italy. Was what you wrote simply a joke that kind of fell short of target because of factual errors, or is Vatican really getting dollar pricing?

If the latter is the case, then there is either a serious bug in the pricing model, or it is even more unfair than it originally seemed. It would mean that some legit Euro countries are actually getting US$ prices, whereas some European countries with independent national currencies are forced to get Euro prices.
The point is not certain countries that will be billed in euros or dollars, the issue is the actual price differences for the same product, depending on where you live.

I got a question for the witcher 3 (because that is the only game I'm still interested in getting). During preorder and when it comes out it'll be sold here at a really unfair price (I don't care about free games, it's still unfair) but as the witcher 2 eventually got shifted to a more acceptable (and fair?) price, how much time will we have to wait to actually buy it fair?
Post edited March 02, 2014 by Zoidberg
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rmuchall: Fantastic post, this sums up my feelings exactly.
+1000 rep to you
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Darkalex6: QTF. Oh boy, have I feel wrong for promoting GOG everywhere I could since 2008 ^^
Well, personally, I'm not deleting my bookmark and going to GOG demanding my account be deleted, so right now I'm willing to play the long game. There's a chance that this might lead to some positive change and they can later come back to this when they have power and weight to throw around.

The fact that regional pricing might be a fight they can't win without closing is also possible but I wish they would have explained that better, I thought GOG was in a better situation then that as far as negotiations are concerned. It would have been nice to hear that they had publishers in line who had large catalogs who weren't willing to budge on that, leaving them with two poor options.

I don't know, I feel like communication has been really poor, and GOG really dropped the ball on a good opportunity to have a discussion with us about what they can and can't accomplish at this stage, which would have been interesting.