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Hey Goggers;

As many of you know, we announced on last Friday that we are going to introduce regional pricing for 3 new games coming up on GOG.com soon. Looking at the amount of reactions (over 3,500 comments at this very moment), it is obvious that this change is making many of you guys worried. We must have failed to clearly explain why our pricing policy for (some) newer games will change and what this means as a matter of fact for our PC & MAC classic games, which account for over 80% of our catalogue.

To be honest, our announcement was a bit vague simply because our future pricing policy is not 100% set in stone yet and we were just worried to make any promises before it was. You know, GOG.com has been growing quickly (thanks to you!), and the more we grow, the more we are worried to make some of you guys disappointed. This is why we were so (over-)cautious with our announcement.

We should have just been upfront about why we've made these changes and what they mean for us in the future and what we're planning. So let's talk. To be clear: what I'm talking about below is our plan. It's a plan that we believe we can accomplish, but while it's what we want to do with GOG, it may change some before it actually sees the light of day. Please don’t blame me for talking open-heartedly today and telling you about the plans and pricing policy we want to fight for and eventually achieve. The below plans aren't sure. The only guarantee I can give you is that we’ll do our best to fight for gamers while still making sure GOG.com as a whole grows (because well, we still want to be around 50 years from now, you know!). So, enough for the introduction, let’s get things started.

Why does GOG.com need to offer newer games at all?

We've been in business for 5 years now, and we've signed a big percentage of all of the classic content that can be legally untangled. There are still some big companies left we're trying to bring into the GOG.com fold, like LucasArts, Microsoft, Take2 and Bethesda, but what classic titles will we sign in the future once we have those partners on-board? We need to sign newer games or else just fire everyone and keep selling the same limited catalog. Either we bring you “not so old” releases from 2010+ or brand-new AAA titles, because these will become classic games tomorrow. It’s as simple as that.

Also, well, we want to expand beyond just classic games, hence the fact we have been offering you brand-new indie releases for almost 2 years now. Why expanding? Well, obviously, because the more games we sell, the more legitimacy we have on the market and the more likely it is that we can achieve our mission: making all PC & MAC video games 100% DRM-free, whether classic or brand-new titles.

To be straightforward (excuse my French):DRM is shit-- we'll never have any of it. It treats legitimate customers like rubbish and pirates don't have to bother with it. It's bad for gamers, and it's also bad for business and our partners. We want to make it easy and convenient for users to buy and play games; rather than give piracy a try. Happy gamers equals a healthy gaming industry; and this is what we fight for. Anyway, I am sure you well know our opinions about DRM.

To make the world of gaming DRM-free, we need to convince top-tier publishers & developers to give us a try with new games, just like they did with classic games. We need to make more case studies for the gaming industry, just like we successfully did back in 2011 with The Witcher 2. It was our first ever 100% DRM-free AAA day-1 release. GOG.com was the 2nd best-selling digital distribution platform worldwide for this title thanks to you guys, despite having regional prices for it. We need more breakthroughs like this to be able to show all the devs and publishers in our industry that DRM-free digital distribution is actually good for their business and their fans. And when I say breakthroughs, I am talking about really kick-ass games, with a potential metacritic score of 85% or more, AA+ and AAA kind of titles.

And this is exactly why we signed those 3 games we told you about last Friday. We believe those 3 games can be massive hits for hardcore gamers, that they can help us spread the DRM-free model among the industry for newer games and we did our best to convince their rights holders to give GOG.com a try. One of those games, as you see already, is Age of Wonders 3. We're planning more titles even beyond these first 3 soon.

Alright, but why is regional pricing needed for those (only 3 so far!) newer games then?

First of all, you have to be aware of an important fact when it comes to newer games: GOG.com cannot really decide what the prices should be. Top-tier developers and publishers usually have contractual obligations with their retail partners that oblige them to offer the game at the same price digitally and in retail. When they don’t have such contractual obligations, they are still encouraged to do so, or else their games might not get any exposure on the shelves in your favorite shops. This will change over time (as digital sales should overtake retail sales in the near future), but as of today, this is still a problem our industry is facing because retail is a big chunk of revenue and there’s nothing GOG.com can do to change that. We need to charge the recommended retail price for the boxed copies of the games in order for developers (or publishers) to either not get sued or at least get their games visible on shelves. You may recall that our sister company CD Projekt RED got sued for that in the past and we don’t want our partners to suffer from that too.

On top of that, you have to know that there are still many top-tier devs and publishers that are scared about DRM-free gaming. They're half-convinced it will make piracy worse, and flat pricing means that we're also asking them to earn less, too. Earn less, you say? Why is that? Well, when we sell a game in the EU or UK, VAT gets deducted from the price before anyone receives any profit. That means we're asking our partners to try out DRM-free gaming and at the same time also earn 19% - 25% less from us. Other stores, such as Steam, price their games regionally and have pricing that's more equitable to developers and publishers. So flat pricing + DRM-Free is something many devs and publishers simply refuse. Can you blame them? The best argument we can make to convince a publisher or developer to try DRM-Free gaming is that it earns money. Telling them to sacrifice income while they try selling a game with no copy protection is not a way to make that argument.

Getting back to those 3 new upcoming games coming up. The first one is Age of Wonders 3, which you can pre-order right now on GOG.com. The next 2 ones will be Divine Divinity: Original Sin and The Witcher 3. We’re very excited to offer those games DRM-free worldwide and we hope you’ll love them.

Still, we know some countries are really being screwed with regional pricing (Western Europe, UK, Australia) and as mentioned above, we’ll do our very best, for every release of a new game, to convince our partners to offer something special for the gamers living there.

And don’t forget guys: if regional pricing for those few big (as in, “AA+”) new games is a problem for you, you can always wait. In a few months. The game will be discounted on sale, and at 60, 70, or 80% off, the price difference will be minimal indeed. In a few years it will become a classic in its own right, and then we have the possibility to to make it flat-priced anyway (read next!) The choice is always yours. All we are after is to present it to you 100% DRM-free. We are sure you will make the best choice for yourself, and let others enjoy their own freedom to make choices as well.

So, what is going to happen with classic games then?

Classic content accounts for about 80% of our catalog, so yes, this is a super important topic. We've mentioned here above that we can’t control prices for new games, but we do have a lot of influence when it comes to classic games. GOG.com is the store that made this market visible and viable digitally, and we're the ones who established the prices we charge. We believe that we have a good record to argue for fair pricing with our partners.

So let's talk about the pricing for classics that we're shooting for. For $5.99 classics, we would like to make the games 3.49 GBP, 4.49 EUR, 199 RUB, and $6.49 AUD. For $9.99 classics, our targets are 5.99 GBP, 7.49 EUR, 349 RUB, and $10.99 AUD. This is what we’ve got in mind at the moment. We’ll do our best to make that happen, and we think it will. How? Well, we have made our partners quite happy with GOG.com's sales for years - thanks to you guys :). We have created a global, legal, successful digital distribution market of classics for them. This market didn't exist 5 years ago. By (re)making all those games compatible with modern operating systems for MAC and PC, we've made forgotten games profitable again. When it comes to classic games, we can tell them that we know more about this market than anyone. :) Being retrogaming freaks ourselves, we know that 5.99 EUR or GBP is crazy expensive for a classic game (compared to 5.99 USD). We have always argued that classic games only sell well if they have reasonable prices. Unfair regional pricing equals piracy and that’s the last thing anybody wants.

What’s next?

We will do our very best to make all of the above happen. This means three things:

First, we will work to make our industry go DRM-free in the future for both classic and new games (that’s our mission!).

Second, we will fight hard to have an attractive offer for those AA+ new games for our European, British and Australian users, despite regional pricing that we have to stick to.

Third, we will switch to fair local pricing for classic games, as I mentioned above.

TheEnigmaticT earlier mentioned that he would eat his hat if we ever brought DRM to GOG.com. I'm going to go one step further: by the end of this year, I'm making the promise that we will have converted our classic catalog over to fair regional pricing as outlined above. If not, we'll set up a record a video of some horrible public shaming for me, TheEnigmaticT, and w0rma. In fact, you know what? Feel free to make suggestions below for something appropriate (but also safe enough that we won't get the video banned on YouTube) so you feel that we're motivated to get this done quickly. I'll pick one that's scary enough from the comments below and we'll let you know which one we're sticking to.

I hope that this explanation has helped ease your worry a bit and help you keep your faith in GOG.com as a place that's different, awesome, and that always fights for what's best for gamers. If you have any questions, comments or ideas, feel free to address them to us below and TheEnigmaticT and I will answer them to the best of our abilities tomorrow. We hear you loud and clear, so please do continue sharing your feedback with us. At the end of the day GOG.com is your place; without you guys it would just be a website where a few crazy people from Europe talk about old games. :)

I end many of my emails with this, but there's rarely a time to use it more appropriately than here:

“Best DRM-free wishes,

Guillaume Rambourg,
(TheFrenchMonk)
Managing Director -- GOG.com”
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skeletonbow: It would be shady business practice to say the least. If some company were to do something like that I would consider it very shady to say the least and wonder what other shady practices they'd be willing to violate the law and roll the dice on. The bigger the company, the bigger the risks too. You just don't do things like that for a quick short term buck if you have an eye on your long term future.

Edit: more thoughts - Not to mention that... a company that is trying to make the world a better place by offering DRM-free games with various benefits as a way to encourage people to buy from them instead of pirating games... should pirate a game and *sell* it in order to track down the owner? Any idea how preposterous that sounds? Seriously, think these things through to the full ramifications.
Whoa, calm down! Go and read what I wrote again. I think I made it quite clear that it wasn't any kind of real solution to the problem, but was an interesting thought experiment.
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Bloodygoodgames: GOG used to be the best place online to buy games. Not anymore.
Which one's better?
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lunah: Why are people getting all riled up over a company changing certain "principles"/"core values?" A company is not a religion or a lover. A company must always adapt to changing economic and market conditions. If you treat any company like a lover or religion, you will get burned and have only yourself to blame, like people who anthropomorphize wild animals and are surprised when they get bitten.

Many people here feel GoG is "insulting their intelligence." In truth, they just cannot face the exposure of their foolishness for putting their faith in a company. Those who think they are so intelligent will only be humbled. Pride comes before the fall. Truly intelligent people hide their intelligence and play dumb. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” - Sun Tzu
Umm, I think the word you are looking for is domesticate not anthropomorphize. Not trying to be rude to you or anything, just anthropomorphize is something else entirely.
Post edited February 28, 2014 by Theta_Sigma
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lunah: Why are people getting all riled up over a company changing certain "principles"/"core values?" A company is not a religion or a lover. A company must always adapt to changing economic and market conditions. If you treat any company like a lover or religion, you will get burned and have only yourself to blame, like people who anthropomorphize wild animals and are surprised when they get mauled.

Many people here feel GoG is "insulting their intelligence." In truth, they just cannot face the exposure of their foolishness for putting their faith in a company. Those who think they are so intelligent will only be humbled. Pride comes before the fall. Truly intelligent people hide their intelligence and play dumb. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” - Sun Tzu
Ah yes, the American Dream: screwing over other people for money.
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lunah: Why are people getting all riled up over a company changing certain "principles"/"core values?" A company is not a religion or a lover. A company must always adapt to changing economic and market conditions. If you treat any company like a lover or religion, you will get burned and have only yourself to blame, like people who anthropomorphize wild animals and are surprised when they get bitten.

Many people here feel GoG is "insulting their intelligence." In truth, they just cannot face the exposure of their foolishness for putting their faith in a company. Those who think they are so intelligent will only be humbled. Pride comes before the fall. Truly intelligent people hide their intelligence and play dumb. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” - Sun Tzu
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Matruchus: Ok we can expect this kind of answer from americans -> capitalists and all that stuff. Europeans have other values then just that. Not trying to insult you or anything but that is the same reponse I got two days now from americans. You truly can not understand europeans since we were not brought in capital and profit is all world.
Opportunism and the struggle for resources is innate and instinctual. If you think you are above that because you're European, then you will be the one to be exploited. Human nature is the same in Europe, Asia, America, and on Mars. You have capitalistic "enemies" in Europe just as much as in the U.S. Pretending they aren't there doesn't make them go away. If you want to win, you must know the game inside-out. Living in utopic lies just means you're the one getting played.
Post edited February 28, 2014 by lunah
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Matruchus: Ok we can expect this kind of answer from americans -> capitalists and all that stuff. Europeans have other values then just that. Not trying to insult you or anything but that is the same reponse I got two days now from americans. You truly can not understand europeans since we were not brought in capital and profit is all world.
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lunah: Opportunism and the struggle for resources is innate and instinctual. If you think you are above that because you're European, then you will be the one to be exploited. You have capitalistic "enemies" in Europe just as much as in the U.S. Pretending they aren't there doesn't make them go away. If you want to win, you must know the game inside-out. Living in utopic lies just means you're the one getting played.
Its not utopic its reality. Capitalist enemies in Europe are stopped at once by supreme court in Haag. Example: No Monsanto in Europe - genetic changed organisms forbidden - no food poisoning as in us. And the struggle for resourcess is artificial. There is no shortage if you have normal economy like we have - social market economy - free market is forbidden because of bad effects on the people. And nobody really needs a new Iphone every half a year. They tried this free economy and then we got the biggest recession because of all the corruption that free market economy brings.
Post edited February 28, 2014 by Matruchus
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skeletonbow: It would be shady business practice to say the least. If some company were to do something like that I would consider it very shady to say the least and wonder what other shady practices they'd be willing to violate the law and roll the dice on. The bigger the company, the bigger the risks too. You just don't do things like that for a quick short term buck if you have an eye on your long term future.

Edit: more thoughts - Not to mention that... a company that is trying to make the world a better place by offering DRM-free games with various benefits as a way to encourage people to buy from them instead of pirating games... should pirate a game and *sell* it in order to track down the owner? Any idea how preposterous that sounds? Seriously, think these things through to the full ramifications.
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Wishbone: Whoa, calm down! Go and read what I wrote again. I think I made it quite clear that it wasn't any kind of real solution to the problem, but was an interesting thought experiment.
Hrm, sorry if that came across non-calm, it wasn't intended that way really. Now that I read it myself it does actually sound a bit harsh although that's not how it thought out in my head. I kind of rattled it off more quickly and off the cuff than most of my posts as it was an afterthought. If I were to reword it more carefully to reflect my thinking more appropriately it would be something like this:

"Additionally a company that is trying to make the world a better place by offering DRM-free games with various benefits as a way to encourage people to buy from them instead of pirating games should not themselves be pirating video games in order to track down the owner. That is not a sensible way of doing business and has serious ramifications which one should not overlook when considering such an idea."

That's a much better representation of my intent and in a much better wording I believe, but with the same message. I guess it pays to proofread every post including edits before hitting submit eh? ;oP

Thanks for pointing this out also.
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lunah: Opportunism and the struggle for resources is innate and instinctual. If you think you are above that because you're European, then you will be the one to be exploited. You have capitalistic "enemies" in Europe just as much as in the U.S. Pretending they aren't there doesn't make them go away. If you want to win, you must know the game inside-out. Living in utopic lies just means you're the one getting played.
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Matruchus: Its not utopic its reality. Capitalist enemies in Europe are stopped at once by supreme court in Haag. Example: No Monsanto in Europe - genetic changed organisms forbidden - no food poisoning as in us.
Do you also believe Europe will never have another war?

Since there is no food poisoning in Europe, does that mean I can eat raw pork and chicken there every meal and be OK? Can I leave my raw chicken out at room temperature for days and be OK?
Post edited February 28, 2014 by lunah
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Matruchus: Its not utopic its reality. Capitalist enemies in Europe are stopped at once by supreme court in Haag. Example: No Monsanto in Europe - genetic changed organisms forbidden - no food poisoning as in us.
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lunah: Since there is no food poisoning in Europe, does that mean I can eat raw pork and chicken there every meal and be OK? Can I leave my raw chicken out at room temperature for days and be OK?
Twisting my words. But yeah, most pig and cattle can be eaten raw here and there are meat products sold as this in the stores.

You can check it on the webseites of different eu stores if you dont trust me on that. And we dont use chorine on chickens.
Post edited February 28, 2014 by Matruchus
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Reever: snip

But I'm really asking you guys to try to negotiate fairer prices for different regions, because what we can see in that one thread someone posted a link to is just crazy unfair.
TET said two contradicting things regarding (negotiations on) regional prices:

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TheEnigmaticT: We have discussed the regional prices with all of our publishers and tried to find the prices that are fairest for everyone. What you see for any game we release with regional pricing is the result of that negotiation.

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TheEnigmaticT: snip

For some new games (those which are regionally priced in other stores) we will be charging the same amount here on GOG.com that you'd be charged anywhere else in the world.

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The way I read the above is either no negotiations took place or they have zero negotiating power; either way, nth will actually differ with the next regionally priced game that comes here except for the pool of "compensation" games - and I put it this way, because if you're an old customer it's more likely than not that you already have those games and if you don't, you probably have no interest in them anyway.


As for AoW3's regional pricing, yes it looks completely bonkers, but it's not unlikely that it's based on the poor (imho) notion that prices are set taking markets size in account in order to make comparable profit on most (if not all) of them.



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Fakum12: What get's mixed up and what makes this all more complicated is, that there are two "regional pricings" the "fair" and the "differential". I personally I think the "fair" pricing (basically all get the same price just in local currencies is fine. If there are a few cent differences it's ok, you can't possibly adjust to each and every exchange rate and fee.

The second thing is the "differential" regional pricing with highly different prices. That's everything but fair. And that's why I opened (one of several like that) wishlist entries. If we can't get around those "differential" prices let's at least make it transparent when they are applied = mark the games and provide an easy list with the pricing zones and the prices. Wishlist here: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/full_disclosure_more_transparency
You do realise that this would be a terrible decision from a business POV, don't you? The point of regional pricing every single game in the store is to train your brain to exclusively think in terms of "is a particular game expensive for me or not" and away from "I'm getting ripped off by X% over the base price".
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lunah: Why are people getting all riled up over a company changing certain "principles"/"core values?" A company is not a religion or a lover. A company must always adapt to changing economic and market conditions. If you treat any company like a lover or religion, you will get burned and have only yourself to blame, like people who anthropomorphize wild animals and are surprised when they get mauled.

Many people here feel GoG is "insulting their intelligence." In truth, they just cannot face the exposure of their foolishness for putting their faith in a company. Those who think they are so intelligent will only be humbled. Pride comes before the fall. Truly intelligent people hide their intelligence and play dumb. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” - Sun Tzu
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Wishbone: Ah yes, the American Dream: screwing over other people for money.
And, if American companies can't do that the direct way, they'll steal your personal information and sell it onto the NSA.

What's hilarious, however, are the Americans still standing up for this way of life and the 'company's right to keep on making obscene profits' as if they oddly believe it benefits them. They are the ones usually getting screwed the most by the Googles, Apples and Microsofts of the world. At least Europeans have a bit more sense.

Personally, I can't wait until Angela Merkel has her way and Europe gets its own internet, so Europeans are no longer stuck with all our personal and private information going via American servers.
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kaileeena: "Best core-values free wishes"
Ouch, that had to hurt ;)
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Wishbone: Ah yes, the American Dream: screwing over other people for money.
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Bloodygoodgames: And, if American companies can't do that the direct way, they'll steal your personal information and sell it onto the NSA.

What's hilarious, however, are the Americans still standing up for this way of life and the 'company's right to keep on making obscene profits' as if they oddly believe it benefits them. They are the ones usually getting screwed the most by the Googles, Apples and Microsofts of the world. At least Europeans have a bit more sense.

Personally, I can't wait until Angela Merkel has her way and Europe gets its own internet, so Europeans are no longer stuck with all our personal and private information going via American servers.
Yeah agree on that. Google did say that they are going to move servers for European customers to Europe now. It is really bad the us is seeing europe as an enemy. for there can be no other explanation for spying on us.
Post edited February 28, 2014 by Matruchus
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lunah: Since there is no food poisoning in Europe, does that mean I can eat raw pork and chicken there every meal and be OK? Can I leave my raw chicken out at room temperature for days and be OK?
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Matruchus: Twisting my words. But yeah, most pig and cattle can be eaten raw here and there are meat products sold as this in the stores.

You can check it on the webseites of different eu stores if you dont trust me on that.
If you truly believe Europe has no food poisoning, I can see why you have such an unrealistic perception of your society/continent.
Post edited February 28, 2014 by lunah
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lunah: Opportunism and the struggle for resources is innate and instinctual. If you think you are above that because you're European, then you will be the one to be exploited. You have capitalistic "enemies" in Europe just as much as in the U.S. Pretending they aren't there doesn't make them go away. If you want to win, you must know the game inside-out. Living in utopic lies just means you're the one getting played.
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Matruchus: Its not utopic its reality. Capitalist enemies in Europe are stopped at once by supreme court in Haag. Example: No Monsanto in Europe - genetic changed organisms forbidden - no food poisoning as in us. And the struggle for resourcess is artificial. There is no shortage if you have normal economy like we have - social market economy - free market is forbidden because of bad effects on the people. And nobody really needs a new Iphone every half a year. They tried this free economy and then we got the biggest recession because of all the corruption that free market economy brings.
Weirdly, during the 20 odd years I lived in the US, I got food poisoning at least five or six times a year -- from Wendy's salad bars, a cheesecake from a local supermarket, sausages from another supermarket etc. That's because American food is loaded with chemicals, preservatives and is frankly not very fresh.

I've lived in Thailand now for 11 years, eat at streetside stalls all over Bangkok, and eat foods I never had access to in the US. The number of times I've had food poisoning in Thailand? In 11 years.......once.

Same in Europe. I've actually never had food poisoning in Europe, and I spent half of my life living there.