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Hey Goggers;

As many of you know, we announced on last Friday that we are going to introduce regional pricing for 3 new games coming up on GOG.com soon. Looking at the amount of reactions (over 3,500 comments at this very moment), it is obvious that this change is making many of you guys worried. We must have failed to clearly explain why our pricing policy for (some) newer games will change and what this means as a matter of fact for our PC & MAC classic games, which account for over 80% of our catalogue.

To be honest, our announcement was a bit vague simply because our future pricing policy is not 100% set in stone yet and we were just worried to make any promises before it was. You know, GOG.com has been growing quickly (thanks to you!), and the more we grow, the more we are worried to make some of you guys disappointed. This is why we were so (over-)cautious with our announcement.

We should have just been upfront about why we've made these changes and what they mean for us in the future and what we're planning. So let's talk. To be clear: what I'm talking about below is our plan. It's a plan that we believe we can accomplish, but while it's what we want to do with GOG, it may change some before it actually sees the light of day. Please don’t blame me for talking open-heartedly today and telling you about the plans and pricing policy we want to fight for and eventually achieve. The below plans aren't sure. The only guarantee I can give you is that we’ll do our best to fight for gamers while still making sure GOG.com as a whole grows (because well, we still want to be around 50 years from now, you know!). So, enough for the introduction, let’s get things started.

Why does GOG.com need to offer newer games at all?

We've been in business for 5 years now, and we've signed a big percentage of all of the classic content that can be legally untangled. There are still some big companies left we're trying to bring into the GOG.com fold, like LucasArts, Microsoft, Take2 and Bethesda, but what classic titles will we sign in the future once we have those partners on-board? We need to sign newer games or else just fire everyone and keep selling the same limited catalog. Either we bring you “not so old” releases from 2010+ or brand-new AAA titles, because these will become classic games tomorrow. It’s as simple as that.

Also, well, we want to expand beyond just classic games, hence the fact we have been offering you brand-new indie releases for almost 2 years now. Why expanding? Well, obviously, because the more games we sell, the more legitimacy we have on the market and the more likely it is that we can achieve our mission: making all PC & MAC video games 100% DRM-free, whether classic or brand-new titles.

To be straightforward (excuse my French):DRM is shit-- we'll never have any of it. It treats legitimate customers like rubbish and pirates don't have to bother with it. It's bad for gamers, and it's also bad for business and our partners. We want to make it easy and convenient for users to buy and play games; rather than give piracy a try. Happy gamers equals a healthy gaming industry; and this is what we fight for. Anyway, I am sure you well know our opinions about DRM.

To make the world of gaming DRM-free, we need to convince top-tier publishers & developers to give us a try with new games, just like they did with classic games. We need to make more case studies for the gaming industry, just like we successfully did back in 2011 with The Witcher 2. It was our first ever 100% DRM-free AAA day-1 release. GOG.com was the 2nd best-selling digital distribution platform worldwide for this title thanks to you guys, despite having regional prices for it. We need more breakthroughs like this to be able to show all the devs and publishers in our industry that DRM-free digital distribution is actually good for their business and their fans. And when I say breakthroughs, I am talking about really kick-ass games, with a potential metacritic score of 85% or more, AA+ and AAA kind of titles.

And this is exactly why we signed those 3 games we told you about last Friday. We believe those 3 games can be massive hits for hardcore gamers, that they can help us spread the DRM-free model among the industry for newer games and we did our best to convince their rights holders to give GOG.com a try. One of those games, as you see already, is Age of Wonders 3. We're planning more titles even beyond these first 3 soon.

Alright, but why is regional pricing needed for those (only 3 so far!) newer games then?

First of all, you have to be aware of an important fact when it comes to newer games: GOG.com cannot really decide what the prices should be. Top-tier developers and publishers usually have contractual obligations with their retail partners that oblige them to offer the game at the same price digitally and in retail. When they don’t have such contractual obligations, they are still encouraged to do so, or else their games might not get any exposure on the shelves in your favorite shops. This will change over time (as digital sales should overtake retail sales in the near future), but as of today, this is still a problem our industry is facing because retail is a big chunk of revenue and there’s nothing GOG.com can do to change that. We need to charge the recommended retail price for the boxed copies of the games in order for developers (or publishers) to either not get sued or at least get their games visible on shelves. You may recall that our sister company CD Projekt RED got sued for that in the past and we don’t want our partners to suffer from that too.

On top of that, you have to know that there are still many top-tier devs and publishers that are scared about DRM-free gaming. They're half-convinced it will make piracy worse, and flat pricing means that we're also asking them to earn less, too. Earn less, you say? Why is that? Well, when we sell a game in the EU or UK, VAT gets deducted from the price before anyone receives any profit. That means we're asking our partners to try out DRM-free gaming and at the same time also earn 19% - 25% less from us. Other stores, such as Steam, price their games regionally and have pricing that's more equitable to developers and publishers. So flat pricing + DRM-Free is something many devs and publishers simply refuse. Can you blame them? The best argument we can make to convince a publisher or developer to try DRM-Free gaming is that it earns money. Telling them to sacrifice income while they try selling a game with no copy protection is not a way to make that argument.

Getting back to those 3 new upcoming games coming up. The first one is Age of Wonders 3, which you can pre-order right now on GOG.com. The next 2 ones will be Divine Divinity: Original Sin and The Witcher 3. We’re very excited to offer those games DRM-free worldwide and we hope you’ll love them.

Still, we know some countries are really being screwed with regional pricing (Western Europe, UK, Australia) and as mentioned above, we’ll do our very best, for every release of a new game, to convince our partners to offer something special for the gamers living there.

And don’t forget guys: if regional pricing for those few big (as in, “AA+”) new games is a problem for you, you can always wait. In a few months. The game will be discounted on sale, and at 60, 70, or 80% off, the price difference will be minimal indeed. In a few years it will become a classic in its own right, and then we have the possibility to to make it flat-priced anyway (read next!) The choice is always yours. All we are after is to present it to you 100% DRM-free. We are sure you will make the best choice for yourself, and let others enjoy their own freedom to make choices as well.

So, what is going to happen with classic games then?

Classic content accounts for about 80% of our catalog, so yes, this is a super important topic. We've mentioned here above that we can’t control prices for new games, but we do have a lot of influence when it comes to classic games. GOG.com is the store that made this market visible and viable digitally, and we're the ones who established the prices we charge. We believe that we have a good record to argue for fair pricing with our partners.

So let's talk about the pricing for classics that we're shooting for. For $5.99 classics, we would like to make the games 3.49 GBP, 4.49 EUR, 199 RUB, and $6.49 AUD. For $9.99 classics, our targets are 5.99 GBP, 7.49 EUR, 349 RUB, and $10.99 AUD. This is what we’ve got in mind at the moment. We’ll do our best to make that happen, and we think it will. How? Well, we have made our partners quite happy with GOG.com's sales for years - thanks to you guys :). We have created a global, legal, successful digital distribution market of classics for them. This market didn't exist 5 years ago. By (re)making all those games compatible with modern operating systems for MAC and PC, we've made forgotten games profitable again. When it comes to classic games, we can tell them that we know more about this market than anyone. :) Being retrogaming freaks ourselves, we know that 5.99 EUR or GBP is crazy expensive for a classic game (compared to 5.99 USD). We have always argued that classic games only sell well if they have reasonable prices. Unfair regional pricing equals piracy and that’s the last thing anybody wants.

What’s next?

We will do our very best to make all of the above happen. This means three things:

First, we will work to make our industry go DRM-free in the future for both classic and new games (that’s our mission!).

Second, we will fight hard to have an attractive offer for those AA+ new games for our European, British and Australian users, despite regional pricing that we have to stick to.

Third, we will switch to fair local pricing for classic games, as I mentioned above.

TheEnigmaticT earlier mentioned that he would eat his hat if we ever brought DRM to GOG.com. I'm going to go one step further: by the end of this year, I'm making the promise that we will have converted our classic catalog over to fair regional pricing as outlined above. If not, we'll set up a record a video of some horrible public shaming for me, TheEnigmaticT, and w0rma. In fact, you know what? Feel free to make suggestions below for something appropriate (but also safe enough that we won't get the video banned on YouTube) so you feel that we're motivated to get this done quickly. I'll pick one that's scary enough from the comments below and we'll let you know which one we're sticking to.

I hope that this explanation has helped ease your worry a bit and help you keep your faith in GOG.com as a place that's different, awesome, and that always fights for what's best for gamers. If you have any questions, comments or ideas, feel free to address them to us below and TheEnigmaticT and I will answer them to the best of our abilities tomorrow. We hear you loud and clear, so please do continue sharing your feedback with us. At the end of the day GOG.com is your place; without you guys it would just be a website where a few crazy people from Europe talk about old games. :)

I end many of my emails with this, but there's rarely a time to use it more appropriately than here:

“Best DRM-free wishes,

Guillaume Rambourg,
(TheFrenchMonk)
Managing Director -- GOG.com”
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MoP: Anyway, again, thanks for indulging. Hope no lemmings died in the process.
Unfortunately, we must mourn the lemmings:

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StormHammer: - How many lemmings died as a result of all these changes?
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TheEnigmaticT: Many lemmings died to bring us this information.
;_;
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MoP: I had thought that the more obscure the game, theoretically the less problematic it could be though, as there should be potentially less entities involved and/or interested. Seeing devs show up a few times on adventure forums when their otherwise unknown (small publisher, or that retained the rights themselves) game was brought up made me wonder just how many of those devs with a few "unnoticed gems" under their belt are out there. But that's just an impression, and I for one give -massive respect yo- and am grateful to everyone that even tries to start digging, let alone successfully brings a classic back to life.
Did you notice what's probably coming here next week? :)
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TheEnigmaticT: Some of you feel betrayed by this change. I understand that. Some of you are incandescently angry about it. I'm sorry that we've made you so upset. Every change that we've made in the last 5 years has been a change that we believe will help make GOG.com bigger, bring us more gamers, and help us sign more big content DRM-Free on GOG. We're sorry if you feel we've betrayed everything that made us special to do so. It's your feelings, and it's your right to feel that way. I hope that, when you've had some time to cool down and some time to see what we're actually doing, you'll feel that we haven't let you down, in the end.
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kaileeena: That's exactly the reason why I am not supporting GOG anymore. As a company you dropped one of your core values (deleting it from main page and FAQ doesn't make it disappear), instead of respecting your customers' intelligence, you keep going in circles indicating its better for us and giving fake PR apologizes.

It seems that GOG is betting (maybe you have statistics supporting that), that people buy from GOG instead from Steam and others because of the value (better deal, more extras, maybe DRM-free) instead of supporting the values that GOG stands for. For me that's a bad bet, cause you converted a loyal customer to someone who is going to check for better deals.

Until GOG stop wasting time going in circles, and step-up and respect their customers again, I am certainly looking for better deals.

"Best core-values free wishes"
Yeah for anybody thinking that people that are complaining are crazy look at the former basic principle from gog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRdfYwvGTos

The principle was valid since GOG came in to existence and it has been swallowed.

So sad to see GOG is no more. They should just change their name to MAGOG it would fit the nicely.
Post edited February 28, 2014 by Matruchus
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hedwards: Right now you are, but didn't you on this same page just say that you can't afford to do that perpetually, or did I misunderstand?

Either way, people are still paying more money than they would otherwise have paid, and regardless of whether they want or play the game, they're still having to buy it as well. It doesn't matter how many free games you throw in if I only want a specific game, that's what I'd want to be paying for, not things that get thrown in to justify paying more than I would have paid.
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TheEnigmaticT: They're not paying more money than they would have paid to buy it from us: this game is priced at this amount everywhere in the world. We're giving them more value (aforementioned free game) than any other store out there because we're trying to be decent about this.
I realize that you're in PR and being paid to represent GOG here, but that's the same basic line of reasoning that manufacturers were using to claim that reducing the amount of the product provided for the price wasn't the same thing as a price increase.

And, they are paying more for those games. As has already been discussed ad infinitum, there's an additional 14% or so that's been tacked onto the price of those new releases in the EU that isn't explained by simply charging for VAT. And by fixing the value for the rest of the games to various local currency you pretty much assure folks that you're not going to be charging everybody the same rate on the other games as well. CC companies adjust their conversion rates daily, if not even more frequently than that.

If you want this whole thing to go away sooner rather than later, I would recommend that you stop insulting our intelligence. I'd wager that the general intelligence around here is well above average due to the games that you've focused on.
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TheEnigmaticT: Some of you feel betrayed by this change. I understand that. Some of you are incandescently angry about it. I'm sorry that we've made you so upset. Every change that we've made in the last 5 years has been a change that we believe will help make GOG.com bigger, bring us more gamers, and help us sign more big content DRM-Free on GOG. We're sorry if you feel we've betrayed everything that made us special to do so. It's your feelings, and it's your right to feel that way. I hope that, when you've had some time to cool down and some time to see what we're actually doing, you'll feel that we haven't let you down, in the end.
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kaileeena: That's exactly the reason why I am not supporting GOG anymore. As a company you dropped one of your core values (deleting it from main page and FAQ doesn't make it disappear), instead of respecting your customers' intelligence, you keep going in circles indicating its better for us and giving fake PR apologizes.

It seems that GOG is betting (maybe you have statistics supporting that), that people buy from GOG instead from Steam and others because of the value (better deal, more extras, maybe DRM-free) instead of supporting the values that GOG stands for. For me that's a bad bet, cause you converted a loyal customer to someone who is going to check for better deals.

Until GOG stop wasting time going in circles, and step-up and respect their customers again, I am certainly looking for better deals.

"Best core-values free wishes"
I think eventually everybody is going to either leave or lose interest, but the longer they keep insulting our intelligence, the more people are likely to leave rather than get over it.

I didn't feel this strongly about region pricing until they started to insult my intelligence by claiming that this is good news. It's at best neutral news for me as I'm not likely to be directly affected, but for some people, particularly in Eastern Europe, this is a really bad deal
Post edited February 28, 2014 by hedwards
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Novotnus: Did you notice what's probably coming here next week? :)
I'm giddy with glee! :D
It's the second title I was hoping to finally see here in my darkest nightm... dreams. Right after Ripper (come on, it's bloody Christopher Walken with Blue Oyster Cult in the background! ... wait, is that precisely why it's a nightmare to bring back as well? D:)

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MoP: Anyway, again, thanks for indulging. Hope no lemmings died in the process.
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StormHammer: Unfortunately, we must mourn the lemmings:

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TheEnigmaticT: Many lemmings died to bring us this information.
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StormHammer: ;_;
Don't You dare spreading that onto me, he said "this information" so it's all on You!
Oh, wait, "this" as in "everything", huh?
;_;
Post edited February 28, 2014 by MoP
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TheEnigmaticT: They're not paying more money than they would have paid to buy it from us: this game is priced at this amount everywhere in the world. We're giving them more value (aforementioned free game) than any other store out there because we're trying to be decent about this.
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hedwards: I realize that you're in PR and being paid to represent GOG here, but that's the same basic line of reasoning that manufacturers were using to claim that reducing the amount of the product provided for the price wasn't the same thing as a price increase.

And, they are paying more for those games. As has already been discussed ad infinitum, there's an additional 14% or so that's been tacked onto the price of those new releases in the EU that isn't explained by simply charging for VAT. And by fixing the value for the rest of the games to various local currency you pretty much assure folks that you're not going to be charging everybody the same rate on the other games as well. CC companies adjust their conversion rates daily, if not even more frequently than that.

If you want this whole thing to go away sooner rather than later, I would recommend that you stop insulting our intelligence. I'd wager that the general intelligence around here is well above average due to the games that you've focused on.
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kaileeena: That's exactly the reason why I am not supporting GOG anymore. As a company you dropped one of your core values (deleting it from main page and FAQ doesn't make it disappear), instead of respecting your customers' intelligence, you keep going in circles indicating its better for us and giving fake PR apologizes.

It seems that GOG is betting (maybe you have statistics supporting that), that people buy from GOG instead from Steam and others because of the value (better deal, more extras, maybe DRM-free) instead of supporting the values that GOG stands for. For me that's a bad bet, cause you converted a loyal customer to someone who is going to check for better deals.

Until GOG stop wasting time going in circles, and step-up and respect their customers again, I am certainly looking for better deals.

"Best core-values free wishes"
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hedwards: I think eventually everybody is going to either leave or lose interest, but the longer they keep insulting our intelligence, the more people are likely to leave rather than get over it.

I didn't feel this strongly about region pricing until they started to insult my intelligence by claiming that this is good news. It's at best neutral news for me as I'm not likely to be directly affected, but for some people, particularly in Eastern Europe, this is a really bad deal
Yeah for the people that really have something in their head its really insulting.
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TheEnigmaticT: For the moment, yes. If we see something crazy like 40% of the revenue from a game comes from gift codes sold from Russia and redeemed elsewhere, we'll have to investigate other options. Basically, if people aren't complete tools, things will remain as they are.
Yes, we all know how bad it is when people abandon things like "values" and "principles", right?
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TheEnigmaticT: For the moment, yes. If we see something crazy like 40% of the revenue from a game comes from gift codes sold from Russia and redeemed elsewhere, we'll have to investigate other options. Basically, if people aren't complete tools, things will remain as they are.
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Ichwillnichtmehr: Yes, we all know how bad it is when people abandon things like "values" and "principles", right?
Yeah especially everything is OK if you GOG abandon your values and principles right?
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skeletonbow: The publisher can do it. Or they can say "the game can't be sold in Russia anymore, pull it there". Problem solved. It's really that simple IMHO and should it come as a surprise to people? Oh sure, people will whine and complain - but people will whine and complain about everything you do good or bad always every time no matter what period. Someone always complains. But if a problem like that arises, then a company like GOG and the publisher have every right to try to prevent the problem they perceive from happening, whether it is the publisher changing the price in a given region, or removing the game from a region or whatever. It's their property and their decision ultimately and it should be.

Some people might think the world owes them something and have a huge sense of entitlement believing they should get to decide what is sold where and for what price under what conditions, but it is disillusion and there are S&P500 companies that make pills for that. ;o)
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Matruchus: I think you misunderstand all the people complaining. We all thought GOG was something good, something different than steam, gamersgate, humblebundle, desura or whatever else you want. Gog had for five principles:
1.worldwide flat price
2. no drm
and three others you cant find here anymore since they erased them all from the site today and that should tell you something

Go look at the GOG facebook site if you dont think that most of us dont think this way. Backlash is the same.
No, I understand people being upset and I've said many times they have a right to be upset about it. How one feels about something isn't right or wrong, it's how it is for them.

What I'm saying is that they can wallow in that and be angry, or they can try to understand it and look at the bigger picture involved and that hopefully - just hopefully they can see that making such a compromise is more valuable to everyone in the long run and find a way in their hearts to forgive GOG for deciding that they needed to make such a compromise for now in order to see a better long term vision for everyone.

Some people believe that GOG has changed their principle and are angered by that. I don't see it that way at all. I think that GOG believes in the principle as much as they ever did, but regardless of what they might value, they've had to realize the reality that that principle was going to prevent them from reaching a larger and more important goal and priciple of all games eventually having DRM-free status. To compromise one principle in the short term for the benefit of being able to have an actual chance of realizing a larger and more important principle is a sacrifice and a compromise of action, but not necessarily changing one's beliefs.

I believe DRM-free gaming gives people the best experience generally and want to see it be the dominant model out there. I also buy games on various other sites with Steam codes. Does this mean I have changed my principles or that I no longer value DRM-free? I very highly value open source software and the Linux operating system. I'm typing this on Windows 7 which is my primary desktop. Does this means I don't really value open source software, or that I just play lip service about open source?

Each person can think what they want about me for that, but the only thing that matters to me is how I think about these things in my own mind, and while I value DRM-free and open source very highly as a "core principle" of mine, I also see the value in using some proprietary software that exists right now too whether it is video games, or the operating system I'm using to run them in, or whatever. It's possible to have a strong value/principle and simultaneously compromise about it to the realities of the world in order to have a better day to day experience for yourself and/or others in hopes that over time the situation will change and eventually you may live to see your utopian dream happen - without having a rigidly fixed highly polarized black and white mindset about things. There's no need to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Life is full of struggles and battles and we all have our views as to how we would like to see the world be a better place for ourselves and/or for others, but everyone is different, people/companies/governments/etc. often have mutually exclusive priorities/goals and they might be good or bad or neutral. Wherever those desires conflict you either have a stalemate, or you make compromises and everyone benefits in a small or large way.

Game company makes compromise on their pro-DRM principle to allow their game DRM-free and taps into new market but wants compromise on pricing. Game distributor wants more games in their catalogue DRM-free and makes compromise on their fixed-pricing principle. Gamers want more DRM-free games on the publisher's site with fixed pricing and make compromise on pricing and get more games as a result - or don't compromise their principle and choose to not buy the games instead.

Life is full of compromises, and we can compromise our ideals without changing our minds about those ideals in order to make progress on a greater good.
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MoP: I'm giddy with glee! :D
It's the second title I was hoping to finally see here in my darkest nightm... dreams. Right after Ripper (come on, it's bloody Christopher Walken with Blue Oyster Cult in the background! ... wait, is that precisely why it's a nightmare to bring back as well? D:)
I would love to endure some frustration in the world of Dark Seed :)
DreamWeb in a nice GOG wrap would be nice too...
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Somethingfake: Are you intentionally trying to misunderstand/put words in his mouth? Nobody said anything about banning.
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Wishbone: No, I'm trying to extrapolate what their official policy will be from the extremely limited information he is giving us. He said selling a key from Russia was against the Terms of Use, I'm trying to find out exactly how far that goes. Do you find my style of inquiry too confrontational? Fine, I'll rephrase the question.

TET, giveaways have flourished on the forum so far. They weren't a problem for GOG, because everybody paid the same for the gift codes. Now that will change. Surely, if someone from Russia buys a gift code for, for example AOW3, and gives it to someone from the EU, you suddenly stand to lose quite a bit of cash. How do you intend to deal with gifting in the future?
I think the idea is that for a russian to buy a gift is a similar investment (in purchasing power terms) to what was happening up to now. Put another way, Russians were so far investing much more to make a gift than Western Europeans, who were the main subsidized group.

So gifts properly speaking should be ok and self-regulate. It's if we abuse gifting to actually do purchases between each others that it can spiral out of control. As I understood it, they expect a certain % of sales from Russia, if they observe that being much higher, they will crack down somehow.
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hedwards: I think eventually everybody is going to either leave or lose interest, but the longer they keep insulting our intelligence, the more people are likely to leave rather than get over it.

I didn't feel this strongly about region pricing until they started to insult my intelligence by claiming that this is good news. It's at best neutral news for me as I'm not likely to be directly affected, but for some people, particularly in Eastern Europe, this is a really bad deal
Same for me. Read about it when the initial statement was made and was angry, not because it affects me as, for some bizarre reason, Thailand does usually get USD prices on all sites I've bought from that do regional pricing. And, if they didn't, my dad would just buy it for me from his American IP.

No, it made me angry because so many people who were formerly able to buy great games at the same prices as everyone else are now going to be shafted -- and mainly from the countries that have the least disposable income to begin with.

Sure, GOG might give a free game when price gouging from a developer is evident. But...as most people have pointed out who looked at the 'free game' with Age of Wonders, all the games on offer are either games they already have or, frankly, don't want so yes, it is and always will be more expensive for them.

As soon as we were all treated like we were children at best and idiots at worst, and the lies just kept on coming, however, I was officially done.

Too bad. GOG used to be the best place online to buy games. Not anymore.

It's the community I'll miss more than the games, though, as you don't get this good of a gaming community just about anywhere else. And that's the real shame.
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Matruchus: I think you misunderstand all the people complaining. We all thought GOG was something good, something different than steam, gamersgate, humblebundle, desura or whatever else you want. Gog had for five principles:
1.worldwide flat price
2. no drm
and three others you cant find here anymore since they erased them all from the site today and that should tell you something

Go look at the GOG facebook site if you dont think that most of us dont think this way. Backlash is the same.
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skeletonbow: No, I understand people being upset and I've said many times they have a right to be upset about it. How one feels about something isn't right or wrong, it's how it is for them.

What I'm saying is that they can wallow in that and be angry, or they can try to understand it and look at the bigger picture involved and that hopefully - just hopefully they can see that making such a compromise is more valuable to everyone in the long run and find a way in their hearts to forgive GOG for deciding that they needed to make such a compromise for now in order to see a better long term vision for everyone.

Some people believe that GOG has changed their principle and are angered by that. I don't see it that way at all. I think that GOG believes in the principle as much as they ever did, but regardless of what they might value, they've had to realize the reality that that principle was going to prevent them from reaching a larger and more important goal and priciple of all games eventually having DRM-free status. To compromise one principle in the short term for the benefit of being able to have an actual chance of realizing a larger and more important principle is a sacrifice and a compromise of action, but not necessarily changing one's beliefs.

I believe DRM-free gaming gives people the best experience generally and want to see it be the dominant model out there. I also buy games on various other sites with Steam codes. Does this mean I have changed my principles or that I no longer value DRM-free? I very highly value open source software and the Linux operating system. I'm typing this on Windows 7 which is my primary desktop. Does this means I don't really value open source software, or that I just play lip service about open source?

Each person can think what they want about me for that, but the only thing that matters to me is how I think about these things in my own mind, and while I value DRM-free and open source very highly as a "core principle" of mine, I also see the value in using some proprietary software that exists right now too whether it is video games, or the operating system I'm using to run them in, or whatever. It's possible to have a strong value/principle and simultaneously compromise about it to the realities of the world in order to have a better day to day experience for yourself and/or others in hopes that over time the situation will change and eventually you may live to see your utopian dream happen - without having a rigidly fixed highly polarized black and white mindset about things. There's no need to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Life is full of struggles and battles and we all have our views as to how we would like to see the world be a better place for ourselves and/or for others, but everyone is different, people/companies/governments/etc. often have mutually exclusive priorities/goals and they might be good or bad or neutral. Wherever those desires conflict you either have a stalemate, or you make compromises and everyone benefits in a small or large way.

Game company makes compromise on their pro-DRM principle to allow their game DRM-free and taps into new market but wants compromise on pricing. Game distributor wants more games in their catalogue DRM-free and makes compromise on their fixed-pricing principle. Gamers want more DRM-free games on the publisher's site with fixed pricing and make compromise on pricing and get more games as a result - or don't compromise their principle and choose to not buy the games instead.

Life is full of compromises, and we can compromise our ideals without changing our minds about those ideals in order to make progress on a greater good.
I understand what you are saying and I am a big supporter of Open Source Systems. Im typing this from Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS and I also use the other one as linux users say but still there some things I can not accept to be broken. Every GOGs policy goes hand in hand with all the other ones they have or had and with out tham there is no complete picture. Its like I would take the desktop away from the system. Then its only the frame left.

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hedwards: I think eventually everybody is going to either leave or lose interest, but the longer they keep insulting our intelligence, the more people are likely to leave rather than get over it.

I didn't feel this strongly about region pricing until they started to insult my intelligence by claiming that this is good news. It's at best neutral news for me as I'm not likely to be directly affected, but for some people, particularly in Eastern Europe, this is a really bad deal
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Bloodygoodgames: Same for me. Read about it when the initial statement was made and was angry, not because it affects me as, for some bizarre reason, Thailand does usually get USD prices on all sites I've bought from that do regional pricing. And, if they didn't, my dad would just buy it for me from his American IP.

No, it made me angry because so many people who were formerly able to buy great games at the same prices as everyone else are now going to be shafted -- and mainly from the countries that have the least disposable income to begin with.

Sure, GOG might give a free game when price gouging from a developer is evident. But...as most people have pointed out who looked at the 'free game' with Age of Wonders, all the games on offer are either games they already have or, frankly, don't want so yes, it is and always will be more expensive for them.

As soon as we were all treated like we were children at best and idiots at worst, and the lies just kept on coming, however, I was officially done.

Too bad. GOG used to be the best place online to buy games. Not anymore.

It's the community I'll miss more than the games, though, as you don't get this good of a gaming community just about anywhere else. And that's the real shame.
Yeah the same for me and frankly I never posted before on any thread on GOG before but this pissed me off so much I could not stop myself to tell my viewpoint since its nothing else then that for GOG.
Post edited February 28, 2014 by Matruchus
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Why are people getting all riled up over a company changing certain "principles"/"core values?" A company is not a religion or a lover. A company must always adapt to changing economic and market conditions. If you treat any company like a lover or religion, you will get burned and have only yourself to blame, like people who anthropomorphize wild animals and are surprised when they get mauled.

Many people here feel GoG is "insulting their intelligence." In truth, they just cannot face the exposure of their foolishness for putting their faith in a company. Those who think they are so intelligent will only be humbled. Pride comes before the fall. Truly intelligent people hide their intelligence and play dumb. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” - Sun Tzu
Post edited February 28, 2014 by lunah
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lunah: Why are people getting all riled up over a company changing certain "principles"/"core values?" A company is not a religion or a lover. A company must always adapt to changing economic and market conditions. If you treat any company like a lover or religion, you will get burned and have only yourself to blame, like people who anthropomorphize wild animals and are surprised when they get bitten.

Many people here feel GoG is "insulting their intelligence." In truth, they just cannot face the exposure of their foolishness for putting their faith in a company. Those who think they are so intelligent will only be humbled. Pride comes before the fall. Truly intelligent people hide their intelligence and play dumb. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” - Sun Tzu
Ok we can expect this kind of answer from americans -> capitalists and all that stuff. Europeans have other values then just that. Not trying to insult you or anything but that is the same reponse I got two days now from americans. You truly can not understand europeans since we were not brought in capital and profit is all world. These two things dont mean anything to us.

Compare our systems you have no public healthcare system - people dying al the time because of no health insurance. Everybody here is insured, nobody dying, nobody paying for operations or anything. Public social security. You lose job, you get state support, flat and the list goes on and on and on.
Post edited February 28, 2014 by Matruchus