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Hey Goggers;

As many of you know, we announced on last Friday that we are going to introduce regional pricing for 3 new games coming up on GOG.com soon. Looking at the amount of reactions (over 3,500 comments at this very moment), it is obvious that this change is making many of you guys worried. We must have failed to clearly explain why our pricing policy for (some) newer games will change and what this means as a matter of fact for our PC & MAC classic games, which account for over 80% of our catalogue.

To be honest, our announcement was a bit vague simply because our future pricing policy is not 100% set in stone yet and we were just worried to make any promises before it was. You know, GOG.com has been growing quickly (thanks to you!), and the more we grow, the more we are worried to make some of you guys disappointed. This is why we were so (over-)cautious with our announcement.

We should have just been upfront about why we've made these changes and what they mean for us in the future and what we're planning. So let's talk. To be clear: what I'm talking about below is our plan. It's a plan that we believe we can accomplish, but while it's what we want to do with GOG, it may change some before it actually sees the light of day. Please don’t blame me for talking open-heartedly today and telling you about the plans and pricing policy we want to fight for and eventually achieve. The below plans aren't sure. The only guarantee I can give you is that we’ll do our best to fight for gamers while still making sure GOG.com as a whole grows (because well, we still want to be around 50 years from now, you know!). So, enough for the introduction, let’s get things started.

Why does GOG.com need to offer newer games at all?

We've been in business for 5 years now, and we've signed a big percentage of all of the classic content that can be legally untangled. There are still some big companies left we're trying to bring into the GOG.com fold, like LucasArts, Microsoft, Take2 and Bethesda, but what classic titles will we sign in the future once we have those partners on-board? We need to sign newer games or else just fire everyone and keep selling the same limited catalog. Either we bring you “not so old” releases from 2010+ or brand-new AAA titles, because these will become classic games tomorrow. It’s as simple as that.

Also, well, we want to expand beyond just classic games, hence the fact we have been offering you brand-new indie releases for almost 2 years now. Why expanding? Well, obviously, because the more games we sell, the more legitimacy we have on the market and the more likely it is that we can achieve our mission: making all PC & MAC video games 100% DRM-free, whether classic or brand-new titles.

To be straightforward (excuse my French):DRM is shit-- we'll never have any of it. It treats legitimate customers like rubbish and pirates don't have to bother with it. It's bad for gamers, and it's also bad for business and our partners. We want to make it easy and convenient for users to buy and play games; rather than give piracy a try. Happy gamers equals a healthy gaming industry; and this is what we fight for. Anyway, I am sure you well know our opinions about DRM.

To make the world of gaming DRM-free, we need to convince top-tier publishers & developers to give us a try with new games, just like they did with classic games. We need to make more case studies for the gaming industry, just like we successfully did back in 2011 with The Witcher 2. It was our first ever 100% DRM-free AAA day-1 release. GOG.com was the 2nd best-selling digital distribution platform worldwide for this title thanks to you guys, despite having regional prices for it. We need more breakthroughs like this to be able to show all the devs and publishers in our industry that DRM-free digital distribution is actually good for their business and their fans. And when I say breakthroughs, I am talking about really kick-ass games, with a potential metacritic score of 85% or more, AA+ and AAA kind of titles.

And this is exactly why we signed those 3 games we told you about last Friday. We believe those 3 games can be massive hits for hardcore gamers, that they can help us spread the DRM-free model among the industry for newer games and we did our best to convince their rights holders to give GOG.com a try. One of those games, as you see already, is Age of Wonders 3. We're planning more titles even beyond these first 3 soon.

Alright, but why is regional pricing needed for those (only 3 so far!) newer games then?

First of all, you have to be aware of an important fact when it comes to newer games: GOG.com cannot really decide what the prices should be. Top-tier developers and publishers usually have contractual obligations with their retail partners that oblige them to offer the game at the same price digitally and in retail. When they don’t have such contractual obligations, they are still encouraged to do so, or else their games might not get any exposure on the shelves in your favorite shops. This will change over time (as digital sales should overtake retail sales in the near future), but as of today, this is still a problem our industry is facing because retail is a big chunk of revenue and there’s nothing GOG.com can do to change that. We need to charge the recommended retail price for the boxed copies of the games in order for developers (or publishers) to either not get sued or at least get their games visible on shelves. You may recall that our sister company CD Projekt RED got sued for that in the past and we don’t want our partners to suffer from that too.

On top of that, you have to know that there are still many top-tier devs and publishers that are scared about DRM-free gaming. They're half-convinced it will make piracy worse, and flat pricing means that we're also asking them to earn less, too. Earn less, you say? Why is that? Well, when we sell a game in the EU or UK, VAT gets deducted from the price before anyone receives any profit. That means we're asking our partners to try out DRM-free gaming and at the same time also earn 19% - 25% less from us. Other stores, such as Steam, price their games regionally and have pricing that's more equitable to developers and publishers. So flat pricing + DRM-Free is something many devs and publishers simply refuse. Can you blame them? The best argument we can make to convince a publisher or developer to try DRM-Free gaming is that it earns money. Telling them to sacrifice income while they try selling a game with no copy protection is not a way to make that argument.

Getting back to those 3 new upcoming games coming up. The first one is Age of Wonders 3, which you can pre-order right now on GOG.com. The next 2 ones will be Divine Divinity: Original Sin and The Witcher 3. We’re very excited to offer those games DRM-free worldwide and we hope you’ll love them.

Still, we know some countries are really being screwed with regional pricing (Western Europe, UK, Australia) and as mentioned above, we’ll do our very best, for every release of a new game, to convince our partners to offer something special for the gamers living there.

And don’t forget guys: if regional pricing for those few big (as in, “AA+”) new games is a problem for you, you can always wait. In a few months. The game will be discounted on sale, and at 60, 70, or 80% off, the price difference will be minimal indeed. In a few years it will become a classic in its own right, and then we have the possibility to to make it flat-priced anyway (read next!) The choice is always yours. All we are after is to present it to you 100% DRM-free. We are sure you will make the best choice for yourself, and let others enjoy their own freedom to make choices as well.

So, what is going to happen with classic games then?

Classic content accounts for about 80% of our catalog, so yes, this is a super important topic. We've mentioned here above that we can’t control prices for new games, but we do have a lot of influence when it comes to classic games. GOG.com is the store that made this market visible and viable digitally, and we're the ones who established the prices we charge. We believe that we have a good record to argue for fair pricing with our partners.

So let's talk about the pricing for classics that we're shooting for. For $5.99 classics, we would like to make the games 3.49 GBP, 4.49 EUR, 199 RUB, and $6.49 AUD. For $9.99 classics, our targets are 5.99 GBP, 7.49 EUR, 349 RUB, and $10.99 AUD. This is what we’ve got in mind at the moment. We’ll do our best to make that happen, and we think it will. How? Well, we have made our partners quite happy with GOG.com's sales for years - thanks to you guys :). We have created a global, legal, successful digital distribution market of classics for them. This market didn't exist 5 years ago. By (re)making all those games compatible with modern operating systems for MAC and PC, we've made forgotten games profitable again. When it comes to classic games, we can tell them that we know more about this market than anyone. :) Being retrogaming freaks ourselves, we know that 5.99 EUR or GBP is crazy expensive for a classic game (compared to 5.99 USD). We have always argued that classic games only sell well if they have reasonable prices. Unfair regional pricing equals piracy and that’s the last thing anybody wants.

What’s next?

We will do our very best to make all of the above happen. This means three things:

First, we will work to make our industry go DRM-free in the future for both classic and new games (that’s our mission!).

Second, we will fight hard to have an attractive offer for those AA+ new games for our European, British and Australian users, despite regional pricing that we have to stick to.

Third, we will switch to fair local pricing for classic games, as I mentioned above.

TheEnigmaticT earlier mentioned that he would eat his hat if we ever brought DRM to GOG.com. I'm going to go one step further: by the end of this year, I'm making the promise that we will have converted our classic catalog over to fair regional pricing as outlined above. If not, we'll set up a record a video of some horrible public shaming for me, TheEnigmaticT, and w0rma. In fact, you know what? Feel free to make suggestions below for something appropriate (but also safe enough that we won't get the video banned on YouTube) so you feel that we're motivated to get this done quickly. I'll pick one that's scary enough from the comments below and we'll let you know which one we're sticking to.

I hope that this explanation has helped ease your worry a bit and help you keep your faith in GOG.com as a place that's different, awesome, and that always fights for what's best for gamers. If you have any questions, comments or ideas, feel free to address them to us below and TheEnigmaticT and I will answer them to the best of our abilities tomorrow. We hear you loud and clear, so please do continue sharing your feedback with us. At the end of the day GOG.com is your place; without you guys it would just be a website where a few crazy people from Europe talk about old games. :)

I end many of my emails with this, but there's rarely a time to use it more appropriately than here:

“Best DRM-free wishes,

Guillaume Rambourg,
(TheFrenchMonk)
Managing Director -- GOG.com”
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Matruchus: Yeah there are a lot more games out there but gog thinks they are crap by what TEnigmatic said today.
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Huinehtar: Oh well...
Age of Empires II, Freelancer => Microsoft
Half-Life, Portal => Valve

All, DRM providers which don't want to sell their games without DRM.

Seriously?

Choose better examples, those are the worst of all.
Well why not Dune 2000 - westwood gone so they should be able to get at least that license.
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Randalator: Oh, I've already become accustomed to regional pricing. So much so, in fact, that my reaction to the bullshit 1$=1€ is always the same: "Fuck you! I'll wait for a bundle or 80+% sale before even considering buying this thing."

I won't even bother using VPN to get a cheaper regional price, I'll wait until the price drops even below the cheapest initial regional price. And then I might use a VPN on top of that. Try to screw me over and your bound to see less of my money than in any other scenario. It's called "voting with your wallet". I wish more people would do that.
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ElarionAbendglan: I don't get your posting. They don't even aim for 1$=1€ so what was the matter here? Just vote with your wallet, lean back relaxed and watch what happens to GoG and the prices here. I just don't see a reason to get the pitchforks and fire out just yet. :-)
The publisher now decides prices, and GOG.com does what the publisher says:
http://www.gog.com/forum/age_of_wonders_series/post_your_regional_price_for_aow3/page1
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Lilim: That. Yet, I still have a feeling (or you can call it my personal opinion) that the whole uproar is less about the introduction of so called regional prices, but about the way it was handled (ekhm, good news spin, quick removal of "one world one price" materials across the web). A typical PR nightmare that they have to go through now, no way back really.

As for the clip mentioned - I did found it hilarious, as it was meant to be that way :-)
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Davane: No. The uproar is about the introduction of Regional Prices when they had Worldwide Pricing as one of their key principles. This makes the uproar about the fact that GOG.com, a company valued for it's ethics and principles, has apparently thrown them away for some new games.

It is understood that GOG.com is a business, first and foremost. But they can't claim to be out for the gamer, with their best interests in mind, if they can't even be open and honest about a key change in their principles. More importantly, if GOG.com knew just how much this would cost their principles - why didn't they just ask the community what we wanted from GOG.com.

In this debacle, GOG.com has thrown away much of what they claimed to care about, for a nebulous reason with no real visible benefits. The biggest issue here is not so much that GOG.com is being greedy, but more that GOG.com is being stupid. This policy is a MISTAKE.

If GOG.com were honest with ALL the facts - NDA's be damned - then this would have gone better. Even more so, if GOG.com had asked us what we want. Asked us what we think is more important - Worldwide Pricing or New Games.

The customers might not be shareholders in the company, but we are stakeholders. We care about GOG.com. but all that caring and passion seems to have just been thrown back in our faces by the M.D. Why should we care about a company which quite clearly doesn't care about us any more.

We are willing to be lenient. We are willing to forgive for mistakes. But stubbornly pushing through Regional Pricing for the entire catalogue without regard to the customer is just unforgivable. GOG.com has added insult to injury by trying to wrap this up as for our own benefit - taking us for fools. IF we thought this was for our own benefit, then we would know, and they wouldn't need to tell us.
First, I don't know why we're under the mistaken impression that "one world, one price" is ethical or fair. Admittedly, it's partly GOG's fault because they marketed it that way, but I like to think that since then they've learned and grown, but I guess their customers still have to catch up :]

Let's not forget- flat pricing makes someone pay more than others just like regional pricing. Regional pricing may or may not have greater variation than flat pricing as far as making someone pay more, but that's not something which can't be addressed with a bit of patience, i.e. wait to buy your fucking video games when it suits your wallet, or if that never happens, then don't buy it.

The other thing to keep in mind is that you're not the only person who uses GOG- there are other people who are okay, or even like, the changes they're making. So, to keep saying that they're not still looking out for gamers is plain wrong- many gamers want to buy and play big and AAA titles, and if regional pricing brings them here, they're okay with that.

Moreover, saying things like "greed" or whatever just makes the person saying them look naive and like a petulant child- don't you think you're being greedy when you demand to pay a "fair" price.

The need for a fair price doesn't exist for goods which do not have any bearing on human rights.

Let's not lie here- no one complaining here cares about anything or anyone else but themselves- you all believe you are entitled to pay a certain price for no apparent reason, except that GOG once said that it's "fair".

And stop spreading misinformation- GOG is introducing fair prices for classics, which is actually something I've haven't seen before from a game seller. So to keep on saying things about "greed" or whatever, again- it makes you look bad when the facts contradict you.
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Matruchus: Yeah Moby games catalog has all the games that existed till today. Only the adventure category has 1721 games and that sums it up.
True.
I think the decision between good games vs. rubbish should be left to the buyers though.

Of course, what he really is saying is that there are games that are expected to be selling many copies, and games which are not expected selling too much.

But even a game which has marginal sales can be a good game, just not something for the masses. For instance, many text adventures are brilliant games and present their own time and place in history well. But many people are not willing to pay for those, as "those games don't even have any graphics and all you do is type".

Unless GOG is trying to become something like the Criterion Collection of DVDs which is featuring carefully handpicked classics (which is obviously not the case...), then making a comment like that is really insulting customers' intelligence, if we start splitting hairs here.

I think most customers are capable of choosing good games by themselves.
If not, you can ask advice from other people who are willing to help (like, when starting to explore a new genre) and read genre-specific forums all over the Internet. Also, if you make a bad purchase and spend your money on complete crap, that's a valuable learning experience and you are unlikely to repeat that mistake again.

But giving that PR spin "we know which games are good, and we choose them for you" is not sounding at all right, especially as they are trying to spin so many other, more important things here too.

And the fact is, there are many companies which have openly stated that they are willing to have their games on GOG, but have been turned down. So "difficult to sign" is not 100% accurate statement either, unless GOG is also faulting themselves on those difficulties.
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Davane: No. The uproar is about the introduction of Regional Prices when they had Worldwide Pricing as one of their key principles. This makes the uproar about the fact that GOG.com, a company valued for it's ethics and principles, has apparently thrown them away for some new games.

It is understood that GOG.com is a business, first and foremost. But they can't claim to be out for the gamer, with their best interests in mind, if they can't even be open and honest about a key change in their principles. More importantly, if GOG.com knew just how much this would cost their principles - why didn't they just ask the community what we wanted from GOG.com.

In this debacle, GOG.com has thrown away much of what they claimed to care about, for a nebulous reason with no real visible benefits. The biggest issue here is not so much that GOG.com is being greedy, but more that GOG.com is being stupid. This policy is a MISTAKE.

If GOG.com were honest with ALL the facts - NDA's be damned - then this would have gone better. Even more so, if GOG.com had asked us what we want. Asked us what we think is more important - Worldwide Pricing or New Games.

The customers might not be shareholders in the company, but we are stakeholders. We care about GOG.com. but all that caring and passion seems to have just been thrown back in our faces by the M.D. Why should we care about a company which quite clearly doesn't care about us any more.

We are willing to be lenient. We are willing to forgive for mistakes. But stubbornly pushing through Regional Pricing for the entire catalogue without regard to the customer is just unforgivable. GOG.com has added insult to injury by trying to wrap this up as for our own benefit - taking us for fools. IF we thought this was for our own benefit, then we would know, and they wouldn't need to tell us.
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cmdr_flashheart: First, I don't know why we're under the mistaken impression that "one world, one price" is ethical or fair. Admittedly, it's partly GOG's fault because they marketed it that way, but I like to think that since then they've learned and grown, but I guess their customers still have to catch up :]

Let's not forget- flat pricing makes someone pay more than others just like regional pricing. Regional pricing may or may not have greater variation than flat pricing as far as making someone pay more, but that's not something which can't be addressed with a bit of patience, i.e. wait to buy your fucking video games when it suits your wallet, or if that never happens, then don't buy it.

The other thing to keep in mind is that you're not the only person who uses GOG- there are other people who are okay, or even like, the changes they're making. So, to keep saying that they're not still looking out for gamers is plain wrong- many gamers want to buy and play big and AAA titles, and if regional pricing brings them here, they're okay with that.

Moreover, saying things like "greed" or whatever just makes the person saying them look naive and like a petulant child- don't you think you're being greedy when you demand to pay a "fair" price.

The need for a fair price doesn't exist for goods which do not have any bearing on human rights.

Let's not lie here- no one complaining here cares about anything or anyone else but themselves- you all believe you are entitled to pay a certain price for no apparent reason, except that GOG once said that it's "fair".

And stop spreading misinformation- GOG is introducing fair prices for classics, which is actually something I've haven't seen before from a game seller. So to keep on saying things about "greed" or whatever, again- it makes you look bad when the facts contradict you.
Gog is not introducing fair pricing for classics for the price differences will be fixed and not bound to daily currency changes so there is nothing fair in that.
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Matruchus: Well why not Dune 2000 - westwood gone so they should be able to get at least that license.
Because Dune 2000, same for C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert, they are already available free, not on GOG yes.


Edit: and you should know that the Dune franchise rights are a bloody mess. So selling now every Dune game (even Emperor) is stuck.
Post edited February 27, 2014 by Huinehtar
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DiscipleJF: The fact that GOG is keeping everything DRM free?
until they get an idea to change direction again...its a sure bet on a fixed odd that drm will come
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Matruchus: Well why not Dune 2000 - westwood gone so they should be able to get at least that license.
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Huinehtar: Because Dune 2000, same for C&C Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert, they are already available free, not on GOG yes, but available on EA's website.
Really did not know that will look into it right now.
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HGiles: 7th Legion and Doomdark's Revenge were both last week.

GOG doesn't release a ton of games at once. Been around since 2011, you should know this.
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Matruchus: Yeah it just seems to be getting less and less. Most of the games now releasing are newer since gog thinks that everything older than five years is classic.
There are a lot of indies floating in which raises the perceived average age. But 7th Legion was from 1997, Summoner was from 2000, SiN from 1998, Covert Action from 1990. Those are all older than Icewind Dale, which is a classic.
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Redfoxe: EA is onboard. So why arent the C&C franchise here?

Oh wait. Maybe those are the games tsomeone refered to as "crap"


EDIT: im really sorry, but i have become quite bitter these past days...
See my post from about 5 minutes ago. In short, a game not appearing here isn't because GOG.com doesn't want it here or because they've refused the game for being crap. Any AAA or similar game that isn't here is almost certainly not here either because the publisher, or owner of the intellectual property doesn't want it here or it is tied up in legal constraints that they don't have the rights negotiated to consider bringing it here, or some similar reason likely well beyond GOG's control. When GOG says they've tried to bring everything here I think they quite literally mean it as far as AAA, AA titles go and any other very popular games from the past present and even future. They can try all they want but they ultimately don't decide, the owner of the intellectual property does. They only can decide what games they even want to persue and to do so, but a game not being here doesn't mean they haven't tried to bring it here.

Having been in business for as many years as they have, I'd be actually shocked if a single AAA game out there hasn't been pursued by them honestly.
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DiscipleJF: The fact that GOG is keeping everything DRM free?
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paulrainer: until they get an idea to change direction again...its a sure bet on a fixed odd that drm will come
Unlikely given that they are gamers too and hate DRM.
high rated
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ElarionAbendglan: I don't get your posting. They don't even aim for 1$=1€ so what was the matter here? Just vote with your wallet, lean back relaxed and watch what happens to GoG and the prices here. I just don't see a reason to get the pitchforks and fire out just yet. :-)
Oooh, they're aiming for a fair conversion on their existing catalogue. Whoop-de-fucking-doo! Until of course the first publisher comes along and changes the pricing (because they can). GOG doesn't set the prices, it's the publishers. And as for new releases:

Age of Wonders 3:
$39.99 = €39.99

Age of Wonders 3 Deluxe Edition:
$44.99 = €44.99

So, yeah...

And by the way, average income is higher in the US than in Germany, so if anything European prices should be lower if regional pricing were actually about fair pricing for different economies and not just fucking people over...
Post edited February 27, 2014 by Randalator
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Matruchus: Yeah it just seems to be getting less and less. Most of the games now releasing are newer since gog thinks that everything older than five years is classic.
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HGiles: There are a lot of indies floating in which raises the perceived average age. But 7th Legion was from 1997, Summoner was from 2000, SiN from 1998, Covert Action from 1990. Those are all older than Icewind Dale, which is a classic.
Well ok but would just like to see more different game genres and not just rpg, platformers and action games.
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HGiles: You have obviously never tried to track down rights for an old game. Or get one working on modern PCs.
I dont have to, they chose this business. I'm not saying it is easy and i'm sure they knew that.
We do not have to try to convince GOG that regional pricing is unfair. They know it already. Fact is that many publishers insist on regional pricing. I want new games here and triple A titles as well. As the situation is now, I often buy my games on steam simply because they are not available here. In addition to that, I see more and more former GOG exclusive older titles appear on Steam, too. So, what do you think where I buy most of my games nowadays? Not here, sadly. But with this new way GOG goes, when more and more newer titles and triple A titles become available here DRM-free, I will buy even more games on GOG than ever before! That's good for GOG, that's good for me, that's great for the DRM-free revolution.

There is an example where GOG did insist on it's principle of one price for the whole world: the games by Daedalic. This resulted in some of the Daedalic games not being available in the German language here. So, GOG did everything correct here, right? Wait! There was an outcry in this community about that! We Germans have to buy the German version for a higher price than it is available on GOG! Oh my dear, what a rip-off! How could GOG dare not to sale the German language version here? They kept to their principles, but because of this we don't get these games here in the German language version! What a disaster! So, how can this community be satisfied? If GOG sells games here at the prices the publisher insist on, we cry "rip-off" and "betrayal". If GOG refuses to sale these games, we cry, too. Silly. You cannot just please everyone.

If GOG does not offer here the games I want to buy, I go and buy them somewhere else. It is as simple as that. So, I am glad GOG chooses to offer me the games I want, even if I have to pay the same "rip-off" price as I have to on any other store where regional pricing is the norm.

We will never get certain titles here otherwise. GOG already tried to convince the publishers, I am sure. But obviously the publishers did not agree to GOG's conditions. You want to have these titles here with flat pricing, but that will probably never happen, simply because the publishers don't rely on GOG. They just sale their games elsewhere. It is as simple as that. You don't like that? Me neither, but that is how the world works.

I am not disappointed by GOG. I am disappointed by the harsh reaction of this community. It is ok to tell GOG one's own opinion, but this shitstorm is not.

If I was GOG, I would not reply to this shitstorm either.