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Jonni: This seems like a very bitter article?
I agree, as I said, I do not particularly trust his articles. However on this case he did link to the episode, so I'm guessing while the link was good it stood up to scrutinity, and that these statements were made. So I was indicating that QI was not to be the source of truth. If there's a team of people checking those facts, that calls the team of people into shame.

As for Orlowski He's the deputy editor of a magazine called TheRegister, which has been going downhill for a while now. I'd advise you to ignore his articles, but you seem to have got that already.
http://www.snopes.com/
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Red_Avatar: Some of you may have heard of the brilliant British show QI (Quite Interesting) where they ask questions with interesting answers. Many of these answers are common knowledge and ... turn out to be completely wrong. It seems that at great amount of knowledge that we hold and were taught, is either very incomplete or utterly wrong.

So for the good of everyone, why not share some of these with eachother? Who knows of something that is considered to be common knowledge yet is wrong?

Here's a few of mine:

- shooting a hole in a window of a plane will not cause immense decompression where everything gets sucked through the hole

- coffee does NOT wake you up or give you an energy boost. To those who are addicted, however, the boost it gives is actually your body reacting to receiving its "fix". A similar thing goes for sugar.

- alcohol does not warm you up. When you're out in the cold, it actually makes it easier for your body to freeze by opening up your pores. In short: don't drink alcohol to warm up. Even though you'll feel warmer, your body will get colder much faster.

- speaking of warmth, dark coloured clothing is not warmer than light coloured clothing. Whether you wear a black shirt or a white one, there's no real difference in how hot you'll feel except maybe as a placebo.

I'm sure I'll think of many more but this should get us started!
Given what you've stated so far I'm in no way convinced of the quality of this show. Even when they're right they seem to be so, more often than not, for the wrong reasons.

It's possible that I'm a complete dunderhead, but I've checked into a lot of this stuff for years and... yeah. Snopes seems like a better resource still;)
Wait - caffeine does not have an energizing effect? What? Where are you getting that from?
Post edited December 27, 2012 by stoicsentry
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Red_Avatar: monks were the main source of writing left over from that time
I'll take the good with the bad. Monks invented beer and mass produced wine, so I'll give them flat earth for a good vintage...
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Red_Avatar: Some of you may have heard of the brilliant British show QI (Quite Interesting) where they ask questions with interesting answers. Many of these answers are common knowledge and ... turn out to be completely wrong. It seems that at great amount of knowledge that we hold and were taught, is either very incomplete or utterly wrong.

So for the good of everyone, why not share some of these with eachother? Who knows of something that is considered to be common knowledge yet is wrong?

Here's a few of mine:

- shooting a hole in a window of a plane will not cause immense decompression where everything gets sucked through the hole
Not Imense but it does cause quite some decompression. I mean the effect is even noticable when you burst an air balloon.
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Red_Avatar: - coffee does NOT wake you up or give you an energy boost. To those who are addicted, however, the boost it gives is actually your body reacting to receiving its "fix". A similar thing goes for sugar.
Not true it does. The effect of caffeine is more than proven. However after the effects of the caffeine are gone you are more tired than before because your body did work more than naturally. Your body does get more resistant to the effect if it is used to it. Sugar does also give you an energy boost but this will of course only be noticeable if your body was actually in need for energy at the moment and its effect is quite short because it is burned fast.
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Red_Avatar: - alcohol does not warm you up. When you're out in the cold, it actually makes it easier for your body to freeze by opening up your pores. In short: don't drink alcohol to warm up. Even though you'll feel warmer, your body will get colder much faster.
This one is true.
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Red_Avatar: - speaking of warmth, dark coloured clothing is not warmer than light coloured clothing. Whether you wear a black shirt or a white one, there's no real difference in how hot you'll feel except maybe as a placebo.
Not true, there is a difference but it is only really noticeable with tight clothing. Otherwise other effects have way more impact.
It's a myth that we only use 10% of our brains, that our eyeballs would pop out if we sneezed with with open, and that the Church made a habit of persecuting scientists in the Middle Ages.
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tinyE: The saying goes that if attacked by a bear the best idea is to play dead. The addage goes on that whatever you do, you should never run because you cannot outrun a bear. This is a travesty of factuation! Kind of.

Running is always the best defense in the case of bear attack; not because you can outrun the bear (which you can't) but because you DON'T HAVE to outrun the bear. You need only outrun whoever you are with.
In that case, running is not the best tactic. The best tactic is to kick the other person in the leg, and then start running.

But, if you are alone?

Anyway, when attacked by a bear, I thought you should make a lot of noise. And that running is not a good idea in the case of a dog attack. And what is the best defense against a mosquito attack? I'd like to know that one.
I recall Myth Busters doing the experiment about whether alcohol warms you up. It's been a while, but I thought it had to do more alcohol thinning the blood, which increased blood circulation, which then caused them to feel warmer in their extremities, but at the same time lowered their core temperature.
Post edited December 27, 2012 by Soyeong
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Kristian: People did NOT think the earth was flat prior to Columbus correcting them. The earth being round was well established in Columbus's day.
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Red_Avatar: Ooo I love this one! Indeed, they did think it was round but also thought the globe was smaller than it was really was which is why Columbus wanted to sail across. Just like people think the Church are being daft idiots today, a lot of scientists back then went against what the Church claimed and basically ignored them as much as possible. The thing is, that monks were the main source of writing left over from that time (I guess they had the most time to write and monasteries would probably keep those books longer than regular people).
I think you have that backwards, they thought the world was larger than it really is.

But yes, it's been known for millenia that the world is round. IIRC the ancient Greeks knew that about it from observing the Earth's shadow on the moon. Plus, by the time people started sailing away from land, they could see the land disappear over the horizon anyways.


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stoicsentry: Wait - caffeine does not have an energizing effect? What? Where are you getting that from?
It's a stimulant and one that will increase focus, but strictly speaking it doesn't increase energy.

Still, I'm with you on this, I think that the energizing effect is more true than not.
Post edited December 27, 2012 by hedwards
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DieRuhe: How about this: nothing is solid. I know, not really a myth, but most people take for granted that things are solid when there's actually quite a bit of space in everything.
Not true. Neutron stars are completely solid.
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tinyE: The saying goes that if attacked by a bear the best idea is to play dead. The addage goes on that whatever you do, you should never run because you cannot outrun a bear. This is a travesty of factuation! Kind of.

Running is always the best defense in the case of bear attack; not because you can outrun the bear (which you can't) but because you DON'T HAVE to outrun the bear. You need only outrun whoever you are with.
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Andanzas: In that case, running is not the best tactic. The best tactic is to kick the other person in the leg, and then start running.

But, if you are alone?

Anyway, when attacked by a bear, I thought you should make a lot of noise. And that running is not a good idea in the case of a dog attack. And what is the best defense against a mosquito attack? I'd like to know that one.
For mosquito attacks there is no defense better than a US Army issue M9A1-7.


Actually I have always heard that a bear won't attack you if you carry a flashlight, you just have to carry it very quickly.
Post edited December 27, 2012 by Stevedog13
For mosquito attacks there is no defense better than a US Army issue M9A1-7.
If you're leaving scorch marks, then you're not using a big enough weapon.
Just make sure that when you shoot a mosquito you shoot to kill. There is nothing more deadly than a wounded mosquito.*

*took that from Python.
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Red_Avatar: - alcohol does not warm you up. When you're out in the cold, it actually makes it easier for your body to freeze by opening up your pores. In short: don't drink alcohol to warm up. Even though you'll feel warmer, your body will get colder much faster.
Not exactly correct.
It won't help you warm up when you are outside freezing. it will warm you up if you are a)not outside b)you just ate. It allows a energy to spread through whole body which went into protective mode.

- speaking of warmth, dark coloured clothing is not warmer than light coloured clothing. Whether you wear a black shirt or a white one, there's no real difference in how hot you'll feel except maybe as a placebo.
and this is something one misunderstood.

Darker clothes makes you indeed hotter. Especially evident on nuclear explosion victims who got "nice" pattern on their bodies caused by explosion and dark spots on their clothing.

it does not matter when it comes to desert clothes worn through ages in middle east. what color they are is indeed irrelevant. what color is your t-shirt? yes. it does matter.
especially when it is skin tight, which prevents air circulation.
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orcishgamer: Given what you've stated so far I'm in no way convinced of the quality of this show. Even when they're right they seem to be so, more often than not, for the wrong reasons.

It's possible that I'm a complete dunderhead, but I've checked into a lot of this stuff for years and... yeah. Snopes seems like a better resource still;)
Shut up and go watch it. it is incredibly good show although they do make mistakes. like everyone else.
the difference is they thrive on being corrected. A mistake in the past show? if pointed out they will gladly correct it.
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Red_Avatar: Ooo there's so many myths about Egyptians and the main one is the question of slaves and Israelites. Evidence shows slaves did not build the pyramids or at least not to the extent that the Bible claims. There's been all sorts of evidence of regular settlements of workers, proper food, proper burials, etc. which slaves would not receive. There's also no evidence in hieroglyphs that mention any slaves even though they often depicted real life scenes. Neither is there any evidence of Israelites ever having served a Pharaoh and definitely not in the large numbers claimed by the Bible.
Yeah. Most likely people working on pyramids were peasants and it was a big social project done when peasants could not work on fields.
if slaves worked on pyramids they were most likely in supportive role (like cleaning toilets)

something which Pharaoh (city builder game) got right. go buy it.
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hedwards: I think you have that backwards, they thought the world was larger than it really is.

But yes, it's been known for millenia that the world is round. IIRC the ancient Greeks knew that about it from observing the Earth's shadow on the moon. Plus, by the time people started sailing away from land, they could see the land disappear over the horizon anyways.
No. they thought it was smaller. Even if there was no Americas Columbus would never be able to reach East coast of asia (not to mention India)
He really underestimated the size of earth.
which was known fairly accurately (to five or so percent.) since before a priest in Isreal tried to fix corruption in local religion but was used as a figurehead to allow politicians to gain power over people.
Post edited December 27, 2012 by lukaszthegreat