Good story, I do like mine better as I managed to tell it without any swearwords You might also find that my better half controls my neither regions, she does however enforce some strong DRM there. By the way, your arguments really sways me now, I can feel a change of heart coming on, or not. I guess I am to busy downloading the games and playing them.

I don't like modern DRM very much, but the war is freaking over as far as new games go and DRM won. Face reality,guy.

Let me tell you a little story too, right now I am not sick, I haven't been sick for the last 5 or 10 years except for a minor cold, so of course it means that it would me stupid of me to have or even to care about having an health insurance, because after all if I am not sick now, and know a lot of peoples who are not, it means of course that I will never be...


Just because something hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it's a valid reason for not caring about it.

I see, so for the next of my life I should live in an oxygen tent, never walking out, as there is chance I might become sick. I'd rather enjoy my life, thank you. Its to short as it is already, I got some more enjoyment still to go through, to waste it on on worrying about things that might, but not very likely, might happen.

Okay. Love you too. Bye.

You know there is a middle point between living in an oxygen tent and pretending that you will never be sick because you decided that sickness doesn't exists.

Extreme paranoia is not a solution... but complete denial is not any better.

I know, but in the meantime I am really enjoying Skyrim. It is very fun. I know about the dangers of Steam, but I chose to enjoy the moment. Same as I enjoyed the games I got from here, and my better half enjoyed Sims Medieval through Origin. If Steam collapses, I will get my games somewhere else, and, guess what - I will probably enjoy them too. But in the meantime, Skyrim really is fun.

I am living the middle way, I have looked at both sides, and - this is my choice. Today I played Skyrim, but yesterday I played Psychonauts, which I got from here. Both games was just as enjoying. I haven't decided that sickness do not exist, I have decided to not let it control me, but that I chose what games I want to play. (By the way, Skyrim is very fun....)

Oh come on of course you liked my post better than yours because my post doesn't have any kind of "heavy provocation" like yours'.

A change of heart. Hmmm. I think it is coming, yes. Oh yeah! At last i decided to give it up! I will break my legit game DVD's in a half!

And i now downloading Skyrim from Pirate Bay! Wow that is great! I missed the true gaming! Without gamers-pretend-to-be, without dishearthining gamer, without company's nonsense. Just the game and me!

Thank you for support for it was great! I will return to my so-called-pirate but in reality "pure" games. Only my vodka and infinite free games. Nothing comes equal!
I love you too!

Funny how everyone who campaigns for DRM-free turns out to be pirates. By the way, how does you "pure" game play differently from my legal?

My vodka is about to end. I am out to buy a new one.

Can we saw the tables of tyranny in half? Gnaw at the ankles of big business? Maybe we can start an internet petition? Those always make a difference. After all, we can't make a difference if we don't make ourselves as obnoxious a laughingstock as we can, right? I don't know, but this certainly isn't the answer. I don't believe so. The closest thing to what Paingiver is proposing would be that time whe... oh, right. Yeah. This very topic is why we teach and respect history, boys and girls. Hey, DRM free might be more successful if you could activate GOG games on Steam. Haven't you heard? If it's not conveniently available right in your Steam library, then it's simply not worth the hassle of playing. Managing multiple accounts is too much trouble, I'd rather not move on to something better when I can just stick with keeping all my games on one account. Now, I know there was a 75% off sale on such and such service, but I'm sure Neverwinter Nights Diamond will show up on Steam any day now. Client-based DRM with offline mode checks and no extras, but hey, it's so much more convenient than burning it to a disc, saving it to my hard drive, or logging in and downloading. ;) Buying just DRM-free is good, too. If you must get a game with DRM, at least buy it at a heavy discount, and avoid buying from Steam if you can, both to avoid having to use their client-based DRM, and to show publishers that you don't want their games to be Steam exclusive. All you can really do is vote with your wallet.

If nobody pays $60 for always online DRM and $20 for five more maps, they'll be forced to change their tactics. They are businesses, and they will test the waters to see how far they can go. If they discover that 90% of players are willing to pay $100 for, say, a useless hat that is only available for purchase for a limited time, what do you suppose they're going to do next?

The Last Remnant almost never goes on sale on Steam, and it's been there an awfully long time. It used to be $40, and now it's $50. Presumably, this is because nobody believes it's worth $40, the last sale it had didn't earn enough money to make it profitable, and now the game is even more expensive, in what I can only imagine is a pathetic attempt to make up for lost potential profit, since they'll now earn an additional $10 with each sale they won't get. Either it profits just barely well enough that they don't feel any pressure to lower the base price (which, ultimately, is a terrible strategy as the number of people willing to pay $10 for it at this point can't be all that much anymore), or they believe they'll earn a greater profit just waiting for the occasional Square-Enix fanatic to cave in and pay whatever they're asking. Pretty much this, and the picture says it all. Not just about online boycotts and petitions, but the willpower of humanity in general. I can't say whether it's more hilarious or sad. ...and after reading that, and rereading your original post, hopefully you feel like a bit of a nutcase. This isn't really that important. There's nothing here worth investing that kind of time and effort in. There are more important things to ponder, better uses of your time.

Voting with your wallet is complicated with Steamworks games since some players will specifically buy from whatever site has the best deal (with some like Green Man Gaming specifically existing for this purpose), so seeing a Steamworks game getting strong sales on non-Steam services doesn't necessarily demonstrate that those players actually wanted to have the game through that service instead of Steam. The huge popularity of Steam means that an ever-increasing number of publishers are using Steamworks instead of service-independent DRM solutions.

True, but you can actually hurt Steam by seeking Steamworks games out on alternate retailers. At the very least they're likely losing 30% of whatever you paid for the game right off the top. If people do that enough they'll have to start charging for Steamworks (or charging more) and that'll make developers think twice about the relative merits of the platform vs. the cost. Whether you're for or against Steam that would likely be beneficial for gaming on the whole.

Oh, I wasn't aware that Steamworks didn't have inherent costs involved. In that case deliberately buying Steamworks games elsewhere for that reason is an interesting approach if enough people were to do that--and certainly the incentives competitors offer can be reason enough.

There are some disadvantages to buying elsewhere though; one common issue is not being able to access the pre-load or beta at the same time as Steam customers if the publisher doesn't deliver the keys to the distributor right away and/or they run out of them.