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Posted August 27, 2014
We'll be removing a number of games from the GOG.com catalog - here's your last call to get them with a special discount!

Today, we're here to honor the promise we gave you to announce ahead of time whenever we're taking a game down from sales. We wanted to give you one last chance to get the titles we're delisting with a considerable discount, and the partners involved agreed. There are 35 games on that list and you can get them all for up to 80% off until Tuesday, September 2, at 3:59AM GMT. Any title you buy will remain in your collection even after it's removed from our catalog, so you can always download and re-download the installers and bonus content. Check out the promo page to see which games this concerns.

We're still ironing out a few details. For now, the promo pages, like the one for the Last Chance Special, list all the game prices only in US dollars. But don't freak out: if you chose to use your local currency you will see the prices in local currency in checkout, and you can still finalize the transaction in local currency. We hope to have this issue fixed within the next weeks.
Posted August 28, 2014
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ThomNG: Dear GOG Community,

first of all I have to say that it is so great to see that "grown-up" attitude and how objectively the whole topic was discussed. It is a pleasure being part of the GOG.com community (both at a gamer and as a publisher's representative). Here is our statement on this matter:

At Nordic Games, we treasure all the strong and long-dated partnerships with our offline- and online retail partners equally. We believe and aim for an equal treatment between the digital, and the boxed versions of all our games and among said partners.

The decision to remove certain games from the gog.com platform was not an easy one. Gog.com and Nordic simply were not able to reach a mutual agreement at the moment. We considered several aspects and implications thereof, while also staying true to our equal treatment principles towards all of our partners worldwide.

However, this decision does not affect our company’s viewpoint on the following subject areas:
- We like the gog.com folks and we will continue to work together with gog.com on selected games
- We unrestrictedly share gog.com’s stance on DRM-free versions and we will keep releasing DRM-free and/or widely accepted DRM versions of our games.
- Our own equal treatment principles remain coherent; we do not want to put one of our partners in a special place and cause a stir with other partners

What do we mean with the last point exactly?
Given gog.com’s decision to aim for an exchange-rate orientated pricing would leave us in the unenviable position of constantly having to adapt our pricings in all territories on- and offline to ensure an equal treatment. As exchange rates are very dynamic in nature with the potential of shifting rapidly, and given our network of more than 100 off- and online partners, this will result in a significant amount of extra time and work. For a company of our size, this can result in a non-manageable effort and will heavily impact our work hours, which we would like to dedicate to all the great games in our pipeline, rather than constantly adapting our global pricing structure.

We are aware that this decision might lead to raised eyebrows amongst certain members of the gaming community, but it had to be made and we as a company adhere to it.

With playful and gaming regards,

Nordic Games
Thanks for the statement.
Posted August 28, 2014
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ThomNG: snip
Thanks for the clarification Thom. It makes more sense to me now, as I hadn't fully grasped the ramifications of this policy.

I do hope you can reach an accord with GOG soon, as it was great having Nordic here and we were looking forward to many more of your games arriving.

I have faith that something will be worked out.
Posted August 28, 2014
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djdarko: Added!
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/game_card_reviews_to_remain_viewable_for_removed_games
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eiii: There's already a similar wish http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_store_page_for_removed_games_with_disabled_purchasing. But another one cannot hurt. :)

Edit: URL failed
Oh, didn't notice. I looked for key words "card" "reviews" and didn't see anything. I did my best to write the title with best possible explanation. Oh well.
Posted August 28, 2014
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bmihoric: A while ago, GoG was derailed by a bunch of whiners. Still on the wrong track, the jungle just got thicker and first serious consequences are beginning to show. The site could get stuck in a real deep mud eventually, and get pulled under.

Seeing the movies being added, it's obvious GoG is trying hard to find new content, now that those whiners practically cut GoG away from new games.

Still not too late to change. I never understood, why GoG didn't publicly ask EVERYONE here to VOTE whether we are OK with regional prices, if it brings new AAA titles here. Why just listen to the loud croud, and pretend there is no alternative? Why, GoG?
Doubt it.
But hey I'm all for a vote, I'm pretty sure it would come to the same conclusion.
Posted August 28, 2014
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ThomNG: ...exchange-rate orientated pricing would leave us in the unenviable position of constantly having to adapt our pricings in all territories on- and offline to ensure an equal treatment. As exchange rates are very dynamic in nature with the potential of shifting rapidly, and given our network of more than 100 off- and online partners, this will result in a significant amount of extra time and work...
Many thanks for the comment here! Hopefully things can be resolved favorably to restore these games and add new Nordic titles to GOG. As a fan I want to haggle or point out solutions, please do what can be done to keep these Nordic titles on GOG.

It doesn't seem GOG's currency exchange rates vary much by region (no more than 0.12 cents per $5 or 2.4% of price; maybe that adds up). With GOG allowing regional differences in price it seems the framework is in place to place developers/publishers firmly in control of pricing. Too bad GOG itself can't implement a tool to implement real time changes to currency exchange rates
Post edited August 28, 2014 by undeadcow
Posted August 28, 2014
I wonder if regional pricing is really even a thing. With the gog payback, it makes almost no difference. on that note, couldnt they just auto-convert the price for each region and make it look like region pricing while everyone still pay the same price in $?
Posted August 28, 2014
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ThomNG: Dear GOG Community,
<snip>

We are aware that this decision might lead to raised eyebrows amongst certain members of the gaming community, but it had to be made and we as a company adhere to it.

With playful and gaming regards,

Nordic Games
Thank you for such a level of Candor. As a Gog.com member and corporate creature I understand how difficult it can be to speak about matters like this in such a public fashion and I applaud Nordic Games and Gog for doing what they could here !
Seriously, I do appreciate it! Mind having a nice sale to end your work with gog is a nice way to say goodbye :>

Yours

Sam (or whatever my name is today)
Posted August 28, 2014
Another sad thing is that I had good hopes for Titan Quest on GoG : (
Anyway ok, thanks for the clarification Nordic.
Posted August 28, 2014
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pomstazlesa: I wonder if regional pricing is really even a thing. With the gog payback, it makes almost no difference. on that note, couldnt they just auto-convert the price for each region and make it look like region pricing while everyone still pay the same price in $?
What I wonder is: if Nordic was ok before with the old "same price in dollars for everybody", if it wouldn't be possible for GoG to continue selling those games in dollars only, it would still follow their "fair price" policy.
Posted August 28, 2014
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As far as I'm concerned, refusal to join the gog catalog or withdrawal from it is a sign that this developer or publisher should never be supported again, ever.

If this horrible corrupt industry wants a war, it can have one. It doesn't just deserve a customer revolt, it needs one.
Posted August 28, 2014
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TheTWF: As far as I'm concerned, refusal to join the gog catalog or withdrawal from it is a sign that this developer or publisher should never be supported again, ever.

If this horrible corrupt industry wants a war, it can have one. It doesn't just deserve a customer revolt, it needs one.
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/last_chance_special/post729

they explain their reasons there, in case you missed it.
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pomstazlesa: I wonder if regional pricing is really even a thing. With the gog payback, it makes almost no difference. on that note, couldnt they just auto-convert the price for each region and make it look like region pricing while everyone still pay the same price in $?
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Gersen: What I wonder is: if Nordic was ok before with the old "same price in dollars for everybody", if it wouldn't be possible for GoG to continue selling those games in dollars only, it would still follow their "fair price" policy.
That would probably cause too much confusion (even though I would be glad if it meant preserving Nordic's catalog).
Post edited August 28, 2014 by Shambhala
Posted August 28, 2014
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bmihoric: A while ago, GoG was derailed by a bunch of whiners. Still on the wrong track, the jungle just got thicker and first serious consequences are beginning to show. The site could get stuck in a real deep mud eventually, and get pulled under.

Seeing the movies being added, it's obvious GoG is trying hard to find new content, now that those whiners practically cut GoG away from new games.

Still not too late to change. I never understood, why GoG didn't publicly ask EVERYONE here to VOTE whether we are OK with regional prices, if it brings new AAA titles here. Why just listen to the loud croud, and pretend there is no alternative? Why, GoG?
I have to agree with you. I hope GOG prospers, but I'm not very enthusiastic any more.
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bmihoric: A while ago, GoG was derailed by a bunch of whiners.
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Lemon_Curry: Ah yet another decent and respectful entry in the debate.

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bmihoric: I never understood, why GoG didn't publicly ask EVERYONE here to VOTE whether we are OK with regional prices, if it brings new AAA titles here.
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Lemon_Curry: What if the whiners actually constituted the majority vote? Would you then deem them worthy of respectful disagreement?
Then it would be clear.
Post edited August 28, 2014 by realkman666
Posted August 28, 2014
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Shambhala: That would probably cause too much confusion (even though I would be glad if it meant preserving Nordic's catalog).
Honestly I don't think that it would cause that much more confusion than the current system with some games with regional pricing, some without, some with store credits refunds, some without... ;-)
Posted August 28, 2014
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bmihoric: A while ago, GoG was derailed by a bunch of whiners. Still on the wrong track, the jungle just got thicker and first serious consequences are beginning to show. The site could get stuck in a real deep mud eventually, and get pulled under.

Seeing the movies being added, it's obvious GoG is trying hard to find new content, now that those whiners practically cut GoG away from new games.

Still not too late to change. I never understood, why GoG didn't publicly ask EVERYONE here to VOTE whether we are OK with regional prices, if it brings new AAA titles here. Why just listen to the loud croud, and pretend there is no alternative? Why, GoG?
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Reaper9988: Doubt it.
But hey I'm all for a vote, I'm pretty sure it would come to the same conclusion.
That's how I feel about politics too. Just leave them in power, people will vote for them anyway.
Posted August 28, 2014
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ThomNG: snip
Thanks for taking the time to respond. While I believe I understand Nordic's side of it, why is it that only two or three publishers have to pull out while so many others were able to work it out and stay?
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