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Posted August 27, 2014
We'll be removing a number of games from the GOG.com catalog - here's your last call to get them with a special discount!

Today, we're here to honor the promise we gave you to announce ahead of time whenever we're taking a game down from sales. We wanted to give you one last chance to get the titles we're delisting with a considerable discount, and the partners involved agreed. There are 35 games on that list and you can get them all for up to 80% off until Tuesday, September 2, at 3:59AM GMT. Any title you buy will remain in your collection even after it's removed from our catalog, so you can always download and re-download the installers and bonus content. Check out the promo page to see which games this concerns.

We're still ironing out a few details. For now, the promo pages, like the one for the Last Chance Special, list all the game prices only in US dollars. But don't freak out: if you chose to use your local currency you will see the prices in local currency in checkout, and you can still finalize the transaction in local currency. We hope to have this issue fixed within the next weeks.
Posted August 29, 2014
If the purpose of this site is to make good old games available, why are titles being removed from the catalog? Wouldn't having more good old games available to choose from be a good thing?
Posted August 29, 2014
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phillbato: why are titles being removed from the catalog?
See here.
Posted August 29, 2014
Nice little trick GOG. And, nice of Nordic to be so cooperative. Now people will suddenly be far more willing to accept unfair regional pricing.
Posted August 29, 2014
Here's how I read Nordic's statement: "Our not-GoG distributors were pissed off that GoG undercuts them in all markets except the US."

Regional pricing is mostly a product of having regional physical distributors, each with different taxes. However, I doubt GoG has any worldwide presence, so it pays the same taxes for every sale. Thus, no need for regional pricing.

Incidentally, why isn't anyone complaining that an app in the iOS store costs 99 US cents but only 89 eurocents? Would you like the 1 usd == 1 eur parity over there too?
Posted August 29, 2014
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torp: Here's how I read Nordic's statement: "Our not-GoG distributors were pissed off that GoG undercuts them in all markets except the US."

Regional pricing is mostly a product of having regional physical distributors, each with different taxes. However, I doubt GoG has any worldwide presence, so it pays the same taxes for every sale. Thus, no need for regional pricing.

Incidentally, why isn't anyone complaining that an app in the iOS store costs 99 US cents but only 89 eurocents? Would you like the 1 usd == 1 eur parity over there too?
I personally would but I also don't buy from apple so the point is moot to me.

That being said Apple pays taxes and 0.99 € to 0.99$ is inline with just adding VAT.
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Posted August 29, 2014
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ThomNG: Dear GOG Community,
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Nordic Games
Really appreciate your post explaining the decision. Thanks NG!
Posted August 29, 2014
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Reaper9988: I personally would but I also don't buy from apple so the point is moot to me.

That being said Apple pays taxes and 0.99 € to 0.99$ is inline with just adding VAT.
Since when is VAT 36%?
Posted August 29, 2014
For the 35 titles removed from the list.

If I own them, will I still be able to download the games after the 02/09 this year?
Posted August 29, 2014
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disi: If I own them, will I still be able to download the games after the 02/09 this year?
Yes.
Posted August 29, 2014
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disi: If I own them, will I still be able to download the games after the 02/09 this year?
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JMich: Yes.
Thanks! I should have read more careful :)

Any title you buy will remain in your collection even after it's removed from our catalog, so you can always download and re-download the installers and bonus content.

Still scary...
Posted August 29, 2014
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goglier: Darksiders belongs to Nordic Games now, if I am not completely mistaken.
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jalister: You're correct, and it belongs here. :)
I very much agree with you there. :-)
Posted August 29, 2014
There is no such thing as fair pricing, because I look at the mirror and it says so.

If I do the same work as my colleague and contribute the same or less than my colleague, but get paid higher I don't go to my boss and says "Please lower my pay because I am paid more than I should".

If I contribute more and get paid less then my colleague I will be unhappy about it. Even if I contribute less and get paid less, I will also be unhappy about it.

If I join a new company and get paid more, I don't go "Please lower my pay because other company (Region) paid less to me. I have to be fair." If I am paid less in my new company, I will be unhappy and find ways to increase my pay or try another company.

If I cannot hold the same fair standard to myself, how I expect others to do the same? The market force, boss favors will do the trick.

With the majority market force dictating regional pricing is acceptable, we lost in one area.

With the boss frowning on employees that does not do as he please, I cannot do whatever I like, how I want to sell my game (No DRM).
This employee is always late for work. (I cannot release my game in early access, it must be a stable version).
This employee like to pick on what work he like to do rather than assigned to him and rise a fuss if force to work on his assignment. (No pre-order exclusive, or exclusive of any kind)
This employee is always demanding a pay rise (No regional pricing, have to be fair price, still bitch about not getting it on sales due to too much backlog)
I have many many willing employee to do the job. (GOG community is a minority)
I have other employee who are much more effective (Other platform gives more revenue)

No wonder what publishers are, after some time when the sales goes stagnant because the game is not new and shiny anymore, they release it at GOG for recycling.

The only way publisher are going to cater our many demands is if we are going to pay a premium on it. We can demand everything under the sun and people will diligently attend to us, as long as we make their effort worth it. If we ditch our biggest bargaining chip, well......
Posted August 29, 2014
I think GOG should make it a choice:

If you want to pay U.S. prices, you have to pay with credit card in dollars as it was till now. If you want to pay with all those other regional payment methods, than you have to accept regional prices but you also get regional versions and should also include regional language (e.g. if you buy a game of German origin with German regional payment method, you pay the German regional price BUT the publisher has to include the original language too, not like now, that only English versions are included, despite the original game being in German) .

I think, GOG should retain and differentiate between the original payment method with credit card in dollars, the original U.S. pricing and U.S. market versions of games and regional ones. That way all those, who could manage to get a credit card and be able to pay in $ would be able to choose between both options, as either one has some advantages and disadvantages, conveniences and annoyances.

For the publishers, it should be also more important to offer options, as that way, people who despite preferring the regional currency option and payment methods would never buy the games for the high regional price, but would eventually go to the hassle, get the credit card and buy it for the U.S. dollar price, instead of not buying at all AND eventually get the game from other(...) sources.



(I for example was lurking on this page since the beginning, but couldn't buy anything, because I didn't have a credit card, I had not enough money and I was not comfortable with the credit card because it was foreign to me and also having to go through the hassle and costs of getting a credit card. Well over the years I saved enough money to feel free, to be able to finally buy all those games i was yearning for to own, and software i was using regularly AND few months ago, I made the giant step and went to the place, where they offer debit cards in a country where I live as migrant and got me a debit card, it cost me a fee and i pay min. 1.5 euro up to 2% for uploading money to it and conversion fees for paying in non euro currencies. The card also is valid only for a limited amount of time and I will have to buy/make a new one when this one expires.)
Posted August 29, 2014
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JMich: Should they also reduce the price if they sell more items? After all, 20.000 * $5 = 10.000 * $10 = 100.000 * $1. Or is their profit independent of the cost?
Well now this has nothing to do with being "fair"; of course from a purely economic point of view it makes sense to try to lower the production costs a maximum by producing stuff in lower wage countries and adapt the selling price to the average buying power of the countries in which you sell your stuff (which mean having better margins in higher wages countries), like I said it make sense, but it has absolutely nothing to do with wanting "fair" price.

While flat prices are technically not fairer than regional pricing, at least with flat price the publisher doesn't artificially and arbitrary inflate the prices in some countries just to increase it's profit, that alone makes them better in my book.
Posted August 29, 2014
I think Nordic Games and now Frictional Games (response linked below) make good points about currency changes creating extra VAT costs for the developer or setting a standard that currency rates change too wildly for the publisher to be able to track. Hopefully GOG can see some of the flaws in it's currency exchange design and make necessary corrections.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/frictional_games_answer_to_amnesiapenumbra_games_pullout_from_gog
Post edited August 29, 2014 by undeadcow
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