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cioran: @Lukasz
Big companies fall. There's no such thing as too big to fail. I think X Hero is reaching the end of its lifespan and ATVI doesn't have the sense to pull back a little bit to avoid oversaturation. A release of expensive equipment that doesn't sell could effectively cripple ATVI - though I think they could survive thanks to CoD:MW2, MUA2, and Diablo3.
Look at Midway. They dominated publishing for what - 25 years? Bankrupt.
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lukaszthegreat: okay... Im sorry but i don't get your point.

You're presenting the CEO as Darth Vader. Point of fact, he's just another fairly generic CEO and Activision is one of many publishers. The company's mostly prominent in NA. These things are mostly cyclical. He's not the first to try this either. Remember Tiger?
Post edited September 16, 2009 by cioran
Didn't know there was still fun in making videogames.
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lukaszthegreat: okay... Im sorry but i don't get your point.
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cioran: You're presenting the CEO as Darth Vader. Point of fact, he's just another fairly generic CEO and Activision is one of many publishers. The company's mostly prominent in NA. These things are mostly cyclical. He's not the first to try this either. Remember Tiger?

he is the biggest prick i have ever known who worked as ceo. he bluntly stated that he is evil :)
not many people do that.
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cioran: You're presenting the CEO as Darth Vader. Point of fact, he's just another fairly generic CEO and Activision is one of many publishers. The company's mostly prominent in NA. These things are mostly cyclical. He's not the first to try this either. Remember Tiger?
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lukaszthegreat: he is the biggest prick i have ever known who worked as ceo. he bluntly stated that he is evil :)
not many people do that.

Hey, give him some slack, at least he's honest.
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lukaszthegreat: he is the biggest prick i have ever known who worked as ceo. he bluntly stated that he is evil :)
not many people do that.
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Miaghstir: Hey, give him some slack, at least he's honest.

you see.... I don't believe that. He is as lying as anyone else. not more no less.
the thing is:
when other say good they really mean bad.
this guy say bad but he really means too horrible for human soul to endure.
his evil is too big to be fully contained.
got my point :D?
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Miaghstir: Hey, give him some slack, at least he's honest.
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lukaszthegreat: you see.... I don't believe that. He is as lying as anyone else. not more no less.
the thing is:
when other say good they really mean bad.
this guy say bad but he really means too horrible for human soul to endure.
his evil is too big to be fully contained.
got my point :D?

Ah, yes, I see what you mean. Good point.
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lukaszthegreat: you see.... I don't believe that. He is as lying as anyone else. not more no less.
the thing is:
when other say good they really mean bad.
this guy say bad but he really means too horrible for human soul to endure.
his evil is too big to be fully contained.
got my point :D?

It's a bit like Cthulhu describing itself as a little bit naughty.
This guy's even worse than Ray Kassar. I didn't even think that was possible.
Boycott Activision, everyone! Hit Kotick where it hurts him most-profits!
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NamelessFragger: Boycott Activision, everyone! Hit Kotick where it hurts him most-profits!

Fine by me. I don't think they'll be releasing anything that I want anyway. I even satisfied all my Wolfenstein cravings by replaying RTCW. Classic, especially the Ubersoldat battle.
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NamelessFragger: This guy's even worse than Ray Kassar. I didn't even think that was possible.
Boycott Activision, everyone! Hit Kotick where it hurts him most-profits!

The sad thing is, it honestly wouldn't matter so long as they are partnered with the money minting machine known as Blizzard.
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bansama: For a basic example of why that's important: it's far cheaper to localise a Japanese game for the West than it is to localise a Western game for Japan.

That's because Japanese developers use Google Translate or Babelfish to translate their games into Engrish :-D
(Apologizes in advance).
Post edited September 20, 2009 by Wishbone
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bansama: The Japanese and Western console markets are already separated. They've been separated since their conception; primarily due to language used.
For a basic example of why that's important: it's far cheaper to localise a Japanese game for the West than it is to localise a Western game for Japan. That already gives Sony and Nintendo a huge advantage over anything Activision would attempt to introduce over here.
This is something you can readily see over here. The games sold here primarily consist of those created here, for this market. Sure, there are Western games too, but unless they are tied to a major license, they tend to take the back seat in terms of shelf space and more importantly advertising.
I can think of only 2 Western games that have recently had air space on the TV (specifically for the game, and not as an advertisement for the system). And those two games are the recently released FEAR 2 localisation and Counter Strike Online (and that's only really Western in terms of the license from Valve to create it for the Asian market). This is important as Activision will need to spend a very large amount on advertising to gain the interest of this market; and look at the difficulties that Microsoft have had penetrating the Japanese market.
The simple point is, Activision are in no way important to Japan and pretty much; never will be. Regardless of some idiotic CEO's megolomaniac-like dreams.

You seem to be forgetting World of Warcraft, which is an Activision game. Doesn't anyone in Japan play WoW?
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barleyguy: You seem to be forgetting World of Warcraft, which is an Activision game. Doesn't anyone in Japan play WoW?

Aren't Activision and Blizzard still separate entities, albeit both being covered by the "umbrella company" (ActivisionBlizzard)?
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barleyguy: You seem to be forgetting World of Warcraft, which is an Activision game. Doesn't anyone in Japan play WoW?
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Miaghstir: Aren't Activision and Blizzard still separate entities, albeit both being covered by the "umbrella company" (ActivisionBlizzard)?

No. Basically, Activision acquired Vivendi and jettisoned anything they didn't think was immediately profitable.
The only Umbrella company in question is Vivendi, (hence the ticker - ATVI) which has been winding down. Kotick is the CEO of ActivisionBlizzard. Activision and Blizzard are separate operating segments though part of the same company.
Here - this should explain it.
http://www.vivendi.com/vivendi/IMG/pdf/ATVI_News_2009_5_7_General_ENG_2-2.pdf
If the merger seems wacky - it is. Technically Vivendi (Blizzard's parent co.) is the controlling partner. In practice, they're not. Reverse acquisition. It's complicated. Moreso than most M&As
Post edited September 20, 2009 by cioran
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Miaghstir: Aren't Activision and Blizzard still separate entities, albeit both being covered by the "umbrella company" (ActivisionBlizzard)?
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cioran: No. Basically, Activision acquired Vivendi and jettisoned anything they didn't think was immediately profitable.
The only Umbrella company in question is Vivendi, which has been winding down. Kotick is the CEO of ActivisionBlizzard. Activision and Blizzard are separate operating segments though part of the same company.
Here - this should explain it.
http://www.vivendi.com/vivendi/IMG/pdf/ATVI_News_2009_5_7_General_ENG_2-2.pdf

That should explain things? Eh, perhaps... though my legalese is a bit rusty so I do not understand much of it, or at the very least don't have the willpower to wade through it due to the sheer mass of text.
I was thinking that Viv. was an umbrella for a number of companies, including Actibliz, and that Actibliz in turn was an umbrella for Activ. and Blizz. Ah well, no matter really, I rather like Blizz's games, and the way they seem (from my observations) to be handling the community, and I've never had anything to do with Activ. so I have no idea on their practices.
The two don't seem to be meddling in each other's games and community relations, WoW is not an Activision game, no more than Guitar Hero is a Blizzard game, and I just got confused when people started referring to Activision Blizzard as just Activision.