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Posted December 25, 2012
Thanks, was just posting a status update for any interested in progress :)
Posted December 26, 2012
SPAM
Posted December 26, 2012
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Licurg: SPAM
STFU and go buy someone a copy of Sacrifice :))
Posted December 26, 2012
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Licurg: SPAM
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CymTyr: STFU and go buy someone a copy of Sacrifice :))
LOL :P
Posted December 26, 2012
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CymTyr: STFU and go buy someone a copy of Sacrifice :))
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Licurg: LOL :P
And on that note I'm closing the kickstarter. Have a great New Year's everyone :)
Posted December 26, 2012
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Licurg: LOL :P
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CymTyr: And on that note I'm closing the kickstarter. Have a great New Year's everyone :)
Failed, eh? How far along did you make it?
Posted December 26, 2012
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CymTyr: And on that note I'm closing the kickstarter. Have a great New Year's everyone :)
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Licurg: Failed, eh? How far along did you make it?
I had one pledge of $100 and one pledge of $25 over a roughly 3 week period. I guess I don't have as much good will in the interwebz as I thought.
Posted December 26, 2012
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Licurg: Failed, eh? How far along did you make it?
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CymTyr: I had one pledge of $100 and one pledge of $25 over a roughly 3 week period. I guess I don't have as much good will in the interwebz as I thought.
If it makes you feel any better, I probably wouldn't have gotten a single dollar if I tried :P
Posted December 26, 2012
If you lived in a city like York in the UK, for $125 (around £77.50) you could have recorded an 8 track E.P. in a studio with a well respected engineer / producer. York of course has quite a bustling music scene, but I'm just giving an example. Thing is, I can't imagine people wanting to donate for you to get equipment - if it was just money to record with then maybe.

I avoid kickstarter (advice for anyone) unless you're a known name / licence / brand. IndieGoGO may be worth a shot but as I deal in doing album artwork for bands and musicians quite a lot, I can tell you the best way to get money to release an album is to save any money you can from gigs / busking and get those preorders!
Build up from digital distribution as well.

Fans will pay to grab a copy of an album they want and if yer gonna sign it and throw in a tee shirt or poster theyll only want it more. I actually know a guy who managed to fund an album and press it from 40 fans alone paying upfront.

So, to put it short:
1). get funds for recording from gigs etc
2) Design! - they way you look / come across does matter - you need a logo, photoshoot, press pack etc (blag some students if nothing else!)
3). sell digital copies to the general public and get a short disc run (50-100 or so - fairly affordable) for your preorder fans!
4). build

I wish I'd seen this thread sooner TBH as I could have given better advice earlier.

Good luck with it CymTyr!
Post edited December 26, 2012 by Sachys
Posted December 26, 2012
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Sachys: If you lived in a city like York in the UK, for $125 (around £77.50) you could have recorded an 8 track E.P. in a studio with a well respected engineer / producer. York of course has quite a bustling music scene, but I'm just giving an example. Thing is, I can't imagine people wanting to donate for you to get equipment - if it was just money to record with then maybe.

I avoid kickstarter (advice for anyone) unless you're a known name / licence / brand. IndieGoGO may be worth a shot but as I deal in doing album artwork for bands and musicians quite a lot, I can tell you the best way to get money to release an album is to save any money you can from gigs / busking and get those preorders!
Build up from digital distribution as well.

Fans will pay to grab a copy of an album they want and if yer gonna sign it and throw in a tee shirt or poster theyll only want it more. I actually know a guy who managed to fund an album and press it from 40 fans alone paying upfront.

So, to put it short:
1). get funds for recording from gigs etc
2) Design! - they way you look / come across does matter - you need a logo, photoshoot, press pack etc (blag some students if nothing else!)
3). sell digital copies to the general public and get a short disc run (50-100 or so - fairly affordable) for your preorder fans!
4). build

I wish I'd seen this thread sooner TBH as I could have given better advice earlier.

Good luck with it CymTyr!
125 quid to produce and record an 8 track EP is astonishing. Around here you're looking at 125 quid an hour.

Also, it was my fault for assuming I had generated some buzz from giving away the equivalent of thousands of dollars of free music. I try not to take anything for granted, but it was an honest mistake on my part. I learned.

I appreciate your advice but the only thing I wanted to do was reward the niche group of people I thought I had that I thought enjoyed my music. I don't intend on getting into the industry.
Posted December 26, 2012
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CymTyr:
In that cse - go with the preorder idea - say $10 for a CD, poster and t-shirt. I could manage that from US suppliers and end up with a spare $2.50 at least - easily covering recording if you can find a decently priced place (bound to be somewhere in reasonable distance you can find with plenty of competetive studios) or find a live sound tech wh'll record a show?!

Just examples, but I'm sure they'll provide better results for your intent.

As to getting in the industry, don't!
heheh

ps, i hate to be one of those people, but a quid is one pound sterling - currently about $1.61! heheh. sorry, but it'd be like calling a ten pence piece a dime.

EDIT: didnt notice if you had a bandcamp page - quite good for putting up recordings as "pay what you want" - could be good digital distribution for you to make a litle towards that goal from those who do appreicate what you do, but also find new fans
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Posted December 26, 2012
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CymTyr:
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Sachys: In that cse - go with the preorder idea - say $10 for a CD, poster and t-shirt. I could manage that from US suppliers and end up with a spare $2.50 at least - easily covering recording if you can find a decently priced place (bound to be somewhere in reasonable distance you can find with plenty of competetive studios) or find a live sound tech wh'll record a show?!

Just examples, but I'm sure they'll provide better results for your intent.

As to getting in the industry, don't!
heheh

ps, i hate to be one of those people, but a quid is one pound sterling - currently about $1.61! heheh. sorry, but it'd be like calling a ten pence piece a dime.

EDIT: didnt notice if you had a bandcamp page - quite good for putting up recordings as "pay what you want" - could be good digital distribution for you to make a litle towards that goal from those who do appreicate what you do, but also find new fans
Yep I know what a quid is, I lived in England for a while. You said 125 pounds ;)

Also, I have a bandcamp page that's been up since March, but I don't actively advertise it frequently. If you look around at one of the music giveaways I've had over the past year you'll find it.
Posted December 26, 2012
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Sachys: In that cse - go with the preorder idea - say $10 for a CD, poster and t-shirt. I could manage that from US suppliers and end up with a spare $2.50 at least - easily covering recording if you can find a decently priced place (bound to be somewhere in reasonable distance you can find with plenty of competetive studios) or find a live sound tech wh'll record a show?!

Just examples, but I'm sure they'll provide better results for your intent.

As to getting in the industry, don't!
heheh

ps, i hate to be one of those people, but a quid is one pound sterling - currently about $1.61! heheh. sorry, but it'd be like calling a ten pence piece a dime.

EDIT: didnt notice if you had a bandcamp page - quite good for putting up recordings as "pay what you want" - could be good digital distribution for you to make a litle towards that goal from those who do appreicate what you do, but also find new fans
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CymTyr: Yep I know what a quid is, I lived in England for a while. You said 125 pounds ;)

Also, I have a bandcamp page that's been up since March, but I don't actively advertise it frequently. If you look around at one of the music giveaways I've had over the past year you'll find it.
Didnt realise that! - Though you may have told me already... (its red wine o'clock here!)
O_o

well, im sorry i couldnt help more / sooner on your project
Posted December 26, 2012
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CymTyr: Yep I know what a quid is, I lived in England for a while. You said 125 pounds ;)

Also, I have a bandcamp page that's been up since March, but I don't actively advertise it frequently. If you look around at one of the music giveaways I've had over the past year you'll find it.
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Sachys: Didnt realise that! - Though you may have told me already... (its red wine o'clock here!)
O_o

well, im sorry i couldnt help more / sooner on your project
No worries :) I decided I'll just take pre-orders on the album I'm working on instead, that way it's less messy. I know I can record an album, it's up to me to figure out better production values before it launches on 4th July 2013.
Post edited December 26, 2012 by CymTyr
Posted December 26, 2012
Can you provide some examples of bands or songs you want to sound like? The reason I'm asking is that to my ears, the song on the Kickstarter page sounds quite okay as it is. I can't think of a lot of ways to improve it apart from really basic things such as getting a pop filter for your mic (or even making your own), using EQ on the vocal track to make it sound less muffled, or re-recording takes that have off-key notes (I see you ruled out digital pitch correction).

I just don't see the need for a random group of uninspired session musicians and heavy production here, unless you're actually aiming for a very different style.
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