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Navagon: Yeah, the full game does. Offline too. Which should mean LAN support, right?

Its cool that PC's are getting some coop love but I'll probably play it with a friend on his xbox 360. These are the sort of games we usually rent and beat in a night.
Well I tried the demo and I can't say I was a fan. Sad really since they fixed a lot of things that were a problem in 1 (the cover mechanic and ability to get shotgun kills at more than bludgeon range being the most notable) but then they did something weird with the enemy movement that made them seem all floaty with no weight and whilst I do like the idea of the video techniques they use, I didn't care much for the implementation
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Navagon: Yeah, the full game does. Offline too. Which should mean LAN support, right?
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Ralackk: Its cool that PC's are getting some coop love but I'll probably play it with a friend on his xbox 360. These are the sort of games we usually rent and beat in a night.

A lot of people do just rent games, complete them, then never give them another look. Which does make you wonder why we're getting increasingly short campaigns and no real replay value. It's almost as if developers are encouraging this attitude.
I never could and never will understand how some people can do this, rent a game for a day or two or even a week, play it to finish, like the game and return it and never play it again.
I rarely rent games, and if I like them I will buy them. I rather have games left than just renting them.
you know, in case there is a nuclear war and I need something to play and can't get outside.
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Aliasalpha: Well I tried the demo and I can't say I was a fan. Sad really since they fixed a lot of things that were a problem in 1 (the cover mechanic and ability to get shotgun kills at more than bludgeon range being the most notable) but then they did something weird with the enemy movement that made them seem all floaty with no weight and whilst I do like the idea of the video techniques they use, I didn't care much for the implementation

You can turn all the video effects off.
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Navagon: A lot of people do just rent games, complete them, then never give them another look. Which does make you wonder why we're getting increasingly short campaigns and no real replay value. It's almost as if developers are encouraging this attitude.

Well if they insist on spending millions on making the graphics look like a movie and then tell jimmy the intern to go home and write them a story over night this is what they can expect. If it wasn't for the coop in games like kane and lynch or army of two I wouldn't personally give them a second glance.
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trusteft: I never could and never will understand how some people can do this, rent a game for a day or two or even a week, play it to finish, like the game and return it and never play it again.
I rarely rent games, and if I like them I will buy them. I rather have games left than just renting them.
you know, in case there is a nuclear war and I need something to play and can't get outside.

I myself have a rather large collection of both console and PC games. Its just these kind of games I have no intrest in other then the coop. Once I've completed that once if I had bought the game it would sit on my shelf never to be played again. So renting them is a better option. Like movies I only buy games that I will play more then once/ spend more then 6 hours with or for games support the developer of the game so they can make other games.
I like the camcorder style of the graphics, but they seem a bit glitchy to me. The most noticeable was the "glare" coming from the lights: some have this vertical line (thinness/thickness varies depending on the kind of light) that stretches from the top of my screen all the way to the bottom; the colour is almost monotone. I almost thought it was my GPU producing artifacts. Anyone else getting those?
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lowyhong: I like the camcorder style of the graphics, but they seem a bit glitchy to me. The most noticeable was the "glare" coming from the lights: some have this vertical line (thinness/thickness varies depending on the kind of light) that stretches from the top of my screen all the way to the bottom; the colour is almost monotone. I almost thought it was my GPU producing artifacts. Anyone else getting those?

No no, that's part of the game. I think the developers were trying to recreate the video camera of the 1990s or something. No camera I know of does that these days (or maybe I film in brightly lit places or something).
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michaelleung: No no, that's part of the game. I think the developers were trying to recreate the video camera of the 1990s or something. No camera I know of does that these days (or maybe I film in brightly lit places or something).

Do the vertical strips look like strange video artifacts on your PC? I don't have screenshots to specifically show what I'm talking about, but you get the idea.
Post edited July 30, 2010 by lowyhong
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michaelleung: No no, that's part of the game. I think the developers were trying to recreate the video camera of the 1990s or something. No camera I know of does that these days (or maybe I film in brightly lit places or something).
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lowyhong: Do the vertical strips look like strange video artifacts on your PC? I don't have screenshots to specifically show what I'm talking about, but you get the idea.

Yes, the vertical strip thing is supposed to be in the game.
played the first one (got it for free), wasn't impressed with the combat mechanics. Enemies were all idiots, the physics were weird, and none of the weapons felt like they had any kick to them. It was sort of like playing in a cardboard world. Not really interested in #2