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Here at GOG.com, we're all about our users and the partners who decided to join the crazy ride into the DRM-free PC gaming. We stick with them through sickness and health, the good and the bad times. As you may have heard, JoWooD is having some tough times lately. Together with the publisher we've decided to give you a chance to get your hands on all the JoWooD titles you're eagerly wanting to buy, but maybe haven't yet. Well, now's your chance to grab those gems at a heckuva bargain!

In this special week-long promo we encourage everyone to get JoWood games with an up to 75% discount! The catalogue includes such gems from PC gaming's past like , [url=http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/gothic_2_gold_edition]Gothic 2, , [url=http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/the_guild_gold_edition]The Guild and more. If you buy all games from JoWood's catalogue, or complete the collection, you'll receive a 75% discount! If you're interested only in some games from the offer, you can still get them for bargain with 60% off! The promo ends on Tuesday, May 3 at 11:59 p.m. EDT.

Since you guys are all going to be asking: we don't know what the future holds for JoWooD. To be safe, though, we recommend that you download any JoWooD titles you've purchased--either from this promo or not--and archive a backup of the GOG installer, because it never hurts to be safe.
Here is how I look at it. GOG provides 3 main services for me. 1 is far more valuable than the other 2 (for me):
1) they sell DRM-free games at a super cheap price. I can download them and play all I want, not restrictions. This is the most valuable service of all - making this games available for me to legally own, DRM-Free.
2) They add value by adding extras like manuals, sound tracks, wall paper, etc. Fluff, but a nice free gift - and legal (as far as I know).
3) They provide a download service that allows you to redownload the game you purchased. Kind of like a file archiving service, but free with a nice interface.

#1 is why most people seem to buy here. #2 is nice, but probably not why you choose to buy from GOG. #3 is something you can do yourself. If GOG comes to a point where they are no longer allowed to sell a particular game, then they will pull it from sales, like everyone else. If the terms of the agreement to stop sales includes the stipulation that they are no longer allowed to host the past sales downloads, then they will pull it. Personally, I don't think they are getting paid much (if at all) ti host my download files and registration information tied to re-downloads. I would thing that it is possible that one day they might not offer the redownload service for life that they have now. I have downloaded and backed up *all* the games I purchased here, even the ones I have not played yet (like the JoWood games). They are doing everyone a favor by having a fire sale - lets usown the game legally, lets them make a buck, lets JoWood make a buck. win win win. Backup your stuff and quit complaining that they might not have a backup for you in the future - the redownloads is not the greater value here!
Post edited April 28, 2011 by crodgers
Joowood went bancrupt recently and will probably be closing business.
Does this in any kind have some impact on the Joowood games GoG does offer, will this games be still in the GoG catalogue?
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Blutmaul: Joowood went bancrupt recently and will probably be closing business.
Does this in any kind have some impact on the Joowood games GoG does offer, will this games be still in the GoG catalogue?
This has been answered a few times. They might not be sold or even hosted anymore so it is good to back them up just in case. Enjoy.
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almirante: I rarely post to forums but I just wanted to get my feeling across to GOG that I absolutely hate the idea of paying for limited downloads. Strategy First had a sale for its Take-No-Prisoners Strategy Pack - 20 games for $10, over 16 GB worth. I didn't buy it because I could only download the games within a limited period of time.

I'm interested in buying Chaser for $2.39 but I'm turned off by the fact that I will no longer be able to download the game if JoWood disappears. If I wanted to get a game through limited time downloads, I'd just go to a pirate site.

The appeal to me of paying for digital download games is the fact that I can delete a game when I need to free up disk space and not have to worry about where I put the backup DVD of the game files. If I feel like playing the game again and I can't find any offline backups, I can just easily download the game again without having to search for it online or offline.
It's funny, because the fact these games are NOT tied to services and that I can back them up and then own them forever is a major plus for me. For you it seems to be a negative... funny old world, isn't it?

In any case treat GOG games (and other DRM free downloads like indie games) the same as your MP3 collection: back it up and own it forever.
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Blutmaul: Joowood went bancrupt recently and will probably be closing business.
Does this in any kind have some impact on the Joowood games GoG does offer, will this games be still in the GoG catalogue?
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Tulivu: This has been answered a few times. They might not be sold or even hosted anymore so it is good to back them up just in case. Enjoy.
I don't know how this really works, but in my country, when company closes, the intellectual property laws are transffered further. Even when nobody will buy Jowood games, the rights of ownership are transfered EVEN TO single person, like lead programmist.

It's just a gog cause to find out who will get these rights and sign new agreement to sell them...

and these regulations are based on international law, and they are similiar in the whole Europe, i don't know how the things go in U.S.
Post edited April 29, 2011 by keeveek
To hell with it..bought the whole thing (already had a few). Crazy deal for sure.

Will be interesting to see what The Guild is about after all TheJoe's babbling.
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iuliand: Important question:
What games from JoWood need individual keys?
I think it would be appropriate to request those keys asap after purchase because later it may not be possible (if is the case).
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amcdermo: That shouldn't be an issue as all the games are drm free. So it should never be necessary to use anything but the downloaded installer.
Well, some games on GoG require additional individual keys for multiplayer, so this question makes sense after all.
It would be nice to see a reply form GoG regarding this, but I think they fear their support department will be overwhelmed with key requests.
Damm wasnt going to buy any of the last 2 games but then i went fro neighbours from hell and got panzer elite as well (was $4 dollars if i just went for neighbours alone) now i am glad i did neighbours from hell is a blast like the old spy v spy games of old.

Oh well it will be a sober weekend but least i will have some fun.
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almirante: I rarely post to forums but I just wanted to get my feeling across to GOG that I absolutely hate the idea of paying for limited downloads. Strategy First had a sale for its Take-No-Prisoners Strategy Pack - 20 games for $10, over 16 GB worth. I didn't buy it because I could only download the games within a limited period of time.

I'm interested in buying Chaser for $2.39 but I'm turned off by the fact that I will no longer be able to download the game if JoWood disappears. If I wanted to get a game through limited time downloads, I'd just go to a pirate site.

The appeal to me of paying for digital download games is the fact that I can delete a game when I need to free up disk space and not have to worry about where I put the backup DVD of the game files. If I feel like playing the game again and I can't find any offline backups, I can just easily download the game again without having to search for it online or offline.
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StingingVelvet: It's funny, because the fact these games are NOT tied to services and that I can back them up and then own them forever is a major plus for me. For you it seems to be a negative... funny old world, isn't it?

In any case treat GOG games (and other DRM free downloads like indie games) the same as your MP3 collection: back it up and own it forever.
Some people that are not you or me might not do their backup (what can I say, people can be stupid that way) and the fact that some folks might pay for the game and then lose access to it later rubs my sensibilities the wrong way.

Heck, some people might do their backup, but then lose the copy through special circumstances (maybe they stored the DVDs in the house and then it when down in flames or something). That could happen to me.

Also, from an ideological stand point, I would like to see a move away from individual user disk storage entirely (for environmental concerns amongst other things).

In the past, I imaged a movie/music industry where user ownership of personal copies for various titles would be kept track of in large databases and content wouldn't be tied to a particular medium and available for life.

So, I'm sure you can understand my enthusiasm when I saw that my vision had come to life in the video game industry with the service GOG is providing.

However, such a vision is not possible in a world where copyright laws are fickle and copyright holders can revoke the access of legitimate buyers whenever for reasons that are not just.
Purchased. Hard to say no really at that price and fancied the Aquanox games for a while now.
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Magnitus: Heck, some people might do their backup, but then lose the copy through special circumstances (maybe they stored the DVDs in the house and then it when down in flames or something). That could happen to me.

Also, from an ideological stand point, I would like to see a move away from individual user disk storage entirely (for environmental concerns amongst other things).
And you can be banned from Steam, or your cloud server company could go under or have a fire or whatever else. Nothing is guaranteed in this world, sadly. I have a rather large PC game collection in boxes I would lose if my house ever catches on fire. That's just something I and everyone else needs to accept. I keep a backup of all my downloaded games, patches, required cracks and tools on my HDD and an external HDD. Even then a fire or tornado could take both HDDs away.

I wish there was a for sure solution, but there really isn't. Every kind of storage is open to some kind of risk, including online storage.
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StingingVelvet: And you can be banned from Steam, or your cloud server company could go under or have a fire or whatever else. Nothing is guaranteed in this world, sadly. I have a rather large PC game collection in boxes I would lose if my house ever catches on fire. That's just something I and everyone else needs to accept. I keep a backup of all my downloaded games, patches, required cracks and tools on my HDD and an external HDD. Even then a fire or tornado could take both HDDs away.

I wish there was a for sure solution, but there really isn't. Every kind of storage is open to some kind of risk, including online storage.
You can't take the risk out of life entirely, but you can certainly strive to make it better and so you should (simply because you can and its a desirable outcome).

I don't think most distributors try enough to ensure that consumers have long term access to their purchased copy simply because it is not in their interest to do so.

Internet storage has its pitfalls (notably, account security), but in terms of disaster protection, redundant copies accross multiple servers sure beats storing everything in one location (your home).

Concerning companies shutting down...

Assuming that the company providing the service would be legally obligated to provide you an advance notice before shuting down everything, it would give you the time to do on-disk backups as necessary before the service shuts down.
Post edited April 29, 2011 by Magnitus
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keeveek: It's just a gog cause to find out who will get these rights and sign new agreement to sell them...
Sure, and I bet the GOG team will try to do this in order to keep the games here. But the new IP owners are not obliged to sign another agreement with GOG. There's no guarantee that they'd have an interest in that. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. And if they don't GOG can't keep on selling the games in question (and maybe not even offer them for download anymore). That's why it's advised to buy any game you want now and make a backup of it, in case you don't want to run a risk. What you make of that advice, that's up to you.
Fuck it, I just bought the whole pack (excluding Dark Fall 1 + 2 which I already had). And I won't be backing up just yet. What's the world without a leap of faith every now and then?

Besides, if some new IP owner comes along and shuts down the games, I'm hoping someone else will put this out on the "alternative" areas (read: BitTorrent)
GOG couldn't force them to keep those games open for sale here, but that absolutely shouldn't influence that the rightful owners of said games have the options to download them whenever it pleases them.

Hell, I doubt that I downloaded more than 25% of the games that I bought here. :)