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Posted June 21, 2011
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GameRager: Too bad we don't have smart cars yet that can sense if you're tanked and refuse to start.
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Sielle: I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but while we do have those they aren't mandatory on all cars, and they're also easily bypassed.
I didn't know they had them.
Posted June 21, 2011
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Sielle: I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but while we do have those they aren't mandatory on all cars, and they're also easily bypassed.
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GameRager: I didn't know they had them.
Per court order a judge can require a breathalyser be installed in your personal vehicle that won't start until after you breath into it. But, they're easily bypassed or fooled and they're very rarely installed.
Posted June 21, 2011
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GameRager: I didn't know they had them.
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Sielle: Per court order a judge can require a breathalyser be installed in your personal vehicle that won't start until after you breath into it. But, they're easily bypassed or fooled and they're very rarely installed.
Make them mandatory then for first time offenders(gov't possibly pays cost from fines paid by drunk drivers), and retool them to be harder to bypass....possibly having the tech check your breath as you drive as well, and if it detects a rise in BAC it slows the car down or even cuts out the engine/puts on the brakes when you stop at a light etc(obviously not have it stop at random when it checks to avoid getting rearended/etc)
Posted June 21, 2011
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Sielle: Per court order a judge can require a breathalyser be installed in your personal vehicle that won't start until after you breath into it. But, they're easily bypassed or fooled and they're very rarely installed.
I actually knew someone who had to have this installed.
Posted June 21, 2011
To all of those people who seem to see fit to assume that I am trying to justify his actions... I am not. In fact I think that what he did was idiotic but there is a way to vocalize that & making lame jokes about him dying isn't it.
This is a man that had a family & friends. Try to put yourself into their shoes & see how they feel right now. I am sure that it isn't good enough to be cracking jokes about it. That is the reason for my question. How would you feel if this had happened to someone close to you? Yes he made the wrong decision, but I think it is safe to say that it was because his decision making was impared not because he was a bad person that was purposely trying to kill others & himself. That doesn't excuse what has happened don't get me wrong... all I am saying is that it is very unlikely that he had malicious intent. If anything one of his friends should have stopped him by telling him that he had too much to drink & taken his keys from him. Don't tell me even for a minute that all of you alcohol drinkers haven't done something stupid when under the influence. His stupid thing on the other hand unfortunately & tragically ended his & his friend's life.
Posted June 21, 2011
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Roberttitus: To all of those people who seem to see fit to assume that I am trying to justify his actions... I am not. In fact I think that what he did was idiotic but there is a way to vocalize that & making lame jokes about him dying isn't it.
This is a man that had a family & friends. Try to put yourself into their shoes & see how they feel right now. I am sure that it isn't good enough to be cracking jokes about it. That is the reason for my question. How would you feel if this had happened to someone close to you? Yes he made the wrong decision, but I think it is safe to say that it was because his decision making was impared not because he was a bad person that was purposely trying to kill others & himself. That doesn't excuse what has happened don't get me wrong... all I am saying is that it is very unlikely that he had malicious intent. If anything one of his friends should have stopped him by telling him that he had too much to drink & taken his keys from him. Don't tell me even for a minute that all of you alcohol drinkers haven't done something stupid when under the influence. His stupid thing on the other hand unfortunately & tragically ended his & his friend's life.
If it happened to someone close to me i'd feel the same....perhaps a bit sad but about the same. Thing is if someone's an idiot why be forced(in a way) to stop mentioning or acknowledging that or their mistakes just because they're dead? People have free will, and while the guy wasn't necessarily evil he did act like an idiot using his own free will to do so and caused his death and someone else's as a result, which makes him a moron....even if he's dead.

Also it doesn't help your case if you try to provoke emotional responses when making conversation....it's usually deemed a low-tier conversational tool.
Post edited June 21, 2011 by GameRager
Posted June 21, 2011
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GameRager: If it happened to someone close to me i'd feel the same....perhaps a bit sad but about the same. Thing is if someone's an idiot why be forced(in a way) to stop mentioning or acknowledging that or their mistakes just because they're dead? People have free will, and while the guy wasn't necessarily evil he did act like an idiot using his own free will to do so and caused his death and someone else's as a result, which makes him a moron....even if he's dead.

Also it doesn't help your case if you try to provoke emotional responses when making conversation....it's usually deemed a low-tier conversational tool.
Would you kindly not respond to me... I obviously don't like you & don't wish to make conversation with you. All that ever happens is we end up in a massive 3 page argument & I'm not really feelin' that right now.

Thank you.
Posted June 21, 2011
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GameRager: If it happened to someone close to me i'd feel the same....perhaps a bit sad but about the same. Thing is if someone's an idiot why be forced(in a way) to stop mentioning or acknowledging that or their mistakes just because they're dead? People have free will, and while the guy wasn't necessarily evil he did act like an idiot using his own free will to do so and caused his death and someone else's as a result, which makes him a moron....even if he's dead.

Also it doesn't help your case if you try to provoke emotional responses when making conversation....it's usually deemed a low-tier conversational tool.
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Roberttitus: Would you kindly not respond to me... I obviously don't like you & don't wish to make conversation with you. All that ever happens is we end up in a massive 3 page argument & I'm not really feelin' that right now.

Thank you.
Dude, I can reply to whoever I want....are you that egotistical that you think you can tell people what to do like that?

I made a sincere reply. Either ignore it and move on or reply in kind. Don't drop flamebait.
Posted June 21, 2011
Three men died guys, isn't that enough?

do we need to keep going on arguing?
Posted June 21, 2011
Rest in peace, Ryan and the passenger.

Every death is a tragedy and a sad thing, and they should not be a subject of jokes. That's why I just couldn't understand the celebration when Osama was killed. Maybe he deserved it, but it's still a sad thing when someone dies.

Mr. Dunn had friends and family, so please, respect the man, and not ridicule him, nor the situation.
Posted June 21, 2011
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cheesetruncheon: Three men died guys, isn't that enough?

do we need to keep going on arguing?
Wasn't it two men? I heard it was two, anyways.

Also not arguing, or trying to.
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KneeTheCap: Rest in peace, Ryan and the passenger.

Every death is a tragedy and a sad thing, and they should not be a subject of jokes. That's why I just couldn't understand the celebration when Osama was killed. Maybe he deserved it, but it's still a sad thing when someone dies.

Mr. Dunn had friends and family, so please, respect the man, and not ridicule him, nor the situation.
We're not, we're ridiculing his dumb actions. And again, I don't mince words if someone is dead.....call me callous and cold, but this is how I feel. If someone did stupid things one should not have to not mention them or the fact of how dumb those actions were just because they died.

If we forget to remember the mistakes of the past, and try forgetting how dumb some of them were, how can we ever avoid repeating them in the future?

I agree it's a tragedy though, and my condolences go out to his loved ones and those of the other victim here....and as for Osama, I think they should've caught him and brought him in for trial....but then that's something for another thread.
Post edited June 21, 2011 by GameRager
Posted June 21, 2011
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Sielle: Per court order a judge can require a breathalyser be installed in your personal vehicle that won't start until after you breath into it. But, they're easily bypassed or fooled and they're very rarely installed.
MADD has been actively fighting efforts to involve those devices for years now. It's probably the biggest gripe I have with them. So far the devices have demonstrated them to be effective at lowering the recidivism rate.

Around here we don't think DUIs anywhere near as seriously as we ought to.
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KneeTheCap: Rest in peace, Ryan and the passenger.

Every death is a tragedy and a sad thing, and they should not be a subject of jokes. That's why I just couldn't understand the celebration when Osama was killed. Maybe he deserved it, but it's still a sad thing when someone dies.

Mr. Dunn had friends and family, so please, respect the man, and not ridicule him, nor the situation.
That's incredibly counterproductive. Deaths like this should never happen. He was driving way over the speed limit when he crashed and it sounds like he was probably impaired by alcohol as well.

I don't personally care what his friends and loved ones are going through if it allows folks to astro turf over the fact that he was behaving like a tremendous jack ass at the time of his death.

It's one thing to be a daredevil and to take needless risks, but when you do something like that which puts other people at risk, people who might not have had the option of opting out, I'm not really sure how useful this was an "accident." At best it was willful negligence.
Post edited June 21, 2011 by hedwards
Posted June 21, 2011
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Sielle: Per court order a judge can require a breathalyser be installed in your personal vehicle that won't start until after you breath into it. But, they're easily bypassed or fooled and they're very rarely installed.
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hedwards: MADD has been actively fighting efforts to involve those devices for years now. It's probably the biggest gripe I have with them. So far the devices have demonstrated them to be effective at lowering the recidivism rate.

Around here we don't think DUIs anywhere near as seriously as we ought to.
Problem is MADD worries more about stiffer jailtime all the time for such issues instead of battling the issue with pre-emptive tech and counseling for such individuals.
Posted June 21, 2011
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GameRager: Problem is MADD worries more about stiffer jailtime all the time for such issues instead of battling the issue with pre-emptive tech and counseling for such individuals.
That's my understanding of it. You know that an organization has veered off course when the original found deserts the organization for becoming too radical.

The MADD I used to support was about raising awareness and lowering the incidents of drunken driving. I don't know many people that can argue with that goal, but stiffer jail sentences are at best a means to an end. Bypassing effective means for increased sentences which may or may not correct the behavior makes no sense at all.
Posted June 21, 2011
Once again I believe despicable acts are open to ridicule and I just don't understand why being dead is worthy of respect. I wonder if this guy hadn't have been so likable if the reaction would be the same. I have no respect for my late friend's death and if I feel he is an idiot then why should I get upset if someone else says it. This isn't his memorial where someone is remembered for who they were, this is a thread about his death where we talk about the idiocy of it all. If you want to derail it as a memorial then you get off.

EDIT: My Osama reference merely had to do with giving respect simply because they are dead and nothing more.
Post edited June 21, 2011 by Tulivu
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