It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
avatar
reaver894: Im aware of the legalities surrounding it, but everyone knew well in advance and there has been time for a new contract. beth could have kept it here if they wanted.
avatar
Fenixp: So not wanting to sign a new contract with a completely new reseller makes you a dickhead? Because that's what GOG is. A store. With videogames. I did come to expect some fanatic behaviour out of this community by now tho, so I guess I should not be surprised.
What harm would it have done them to agree even if it were just a short term extension to see how sales went?
Its a shitty move IMO, remember at one stage steam was a new contract. All contracts start somewhere.
avatar
reaver894: What harm would it have done them to agree even if it were just a short term extension to see how sales went?
Its a shitty move IMO, remember at one stage steam was a new contract. All contracts start somewhere.
Because in your opinion they do a shitty move doesn't mean they're dickheads. They didn't purposefully pull Fallout off GOG - if anything blame Interplay who were incapable of sustaining themselves. Actually, don't blame anyone, because it's incredibly silly to just look to throw blame all the time - Interplay's contract has run out, regardless of who owns the license now. I'm thankful it is Bethesda who will actually spread Fallout around, even if not trough GOG.

IIRC, Interplay filed for bankrupcy (can't google 'cause crappy internet connection. I am actually serious.) so the Fallout property is much more likely to appear here now when Bethesda owns it than if a lawyer firm or a bank did. Might take some time, sure. Just keep in mind that whoever the IP would end up with, agreement with Interplay would end yesterday regardless.
avatar
reaver894: What harm would it have done them to agree even if it were just a short term extension to see how sales went?
Its a shitty move IMO, remember at one stage steam was a new contract. All contracts start somewhere.
avatar
Fenixp: Because in your opinion they do a shitty move doesn't mean they're dickheads. They didn't purposefully pull Fallout off GOG - if anything blame Interplay who were incapable of sustaining themselves. Actually, don't blame anyone, because it's incredibly silly to just look to throw blame all the time - Interplay's contract has run out, regardless of who owns the license now. I'm thankful it is Bethesda who will actually spread Fallout around, even if not trough GOG.

IIRC, Interplay filed for bankrupcy (can't google 'cause crappy internet connection. I am actually serious.) so the Fallout property is much more likely to appear here now when Bethesda owns it than if a lawyer firm or a bank did. Might take some time, sure. Just keep in mind that whoever the IP would end up with, agreement with Interplay would end yesterday regardless.
While i hope fallout returns I do not believe it will. And while beth having the IP makes things easier for future games and stuff like that i dont like it and it is my opinion that beth restricting outlets is a dick move.

You may not agree, thats fine. If everyone thought, felt and acted the same life would be boring.

Its like the old saying "Opinions are like assholes, everyone has them and they all stink"
And hey, who the hell is going to come along and buy the Fallout games now? I mean, gOg just gave the games away to anybody who showed up and made an account. Knowing that, putting in the legwork to ink a new agreement is probably a really low priority at the moment.
avatar
HereForTheBeer: And hey, who the hell is going to come along and buy the Fallout games now? I mean, gOg just gave the games away to anybody who showed up and made an account. Knowing that, putting in the legwork to ink a new agreement is probably a really low priority at the moment.
I was just thinking the same thing, they have given away those games so many times now I am surprised any one has not taken the opportunity to get a copy.
Not signing a contract is a purposefull action, they certainly didn't let Random.org make that decision for them. In this case an action that means Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics can't be sold here any more. That is the same as purposefully stopping GOG from selling them.
avatar
P1na: Well, true. But pineapples are way cooler.
avatar
LesterKnight99: No, bowties are cooler.
Bananas are good, bowties are cool, but a fez is even cooler. :) (Surely I'm not the only one who believes that Fez just *has* to be the 11th Doctor's favourite game?)

EDIT:
avatar
LesterKnight99: No, bowties are cooler.
avatar
wpegg: No, that Doctor's been regenerated now. It's also no longer cool to wear a fez.
But we don't know what's cool now! D: We won't know for months! I refuse to stay in the dark, and so until there is a new definition of coolness, I will refer to its previous known value. :P
Post edited January 01, 2014 by Pica-Ludica
avatar
LesterKnight99: No, bowties are cooler.
avatar
wpegg: No, that Doctor's been regenerated now. It's also no longer cool to wear a fez.

What happened to your rep?
That's not necessarily true, I mean Incarnation 4-6 had that lovely shirt with the question marks on the lapels. I can't remember if McCoy kept it though. I am just hoping for a return of the recorder, or possibly a Second Doctor-style Sonic Screwdriver. Oh or possibly a question mark cane. :D YES!
avatar
LesterKnight99: No, bowties are cooler.
avatar
Pica-Ludica: Bananas are good, bowties are cool, but a fez is even cooler. :) (Surely I'm not the only one who believes that Fez just *has* to be the 11th Doctor's favourite game?)

EDIT:
avatar
wpegg: No, that Doctor's been regenerated now. It's also no longer cool to wear a fez.
avatar
Pica-Ludica: But we don't know what's cool now! D: We won't know for months! I refuse to stay in the dark, and so until there is a new definition of coolness, I will refer to its previous known value. :P
See that's why you should become a time traveler. Otherwise, I wouldn't be aware that durian was the new in thing. :D
Post edited January 01, 2014 by Theta_Sigma
avatar
wpegg: No, that Doctor's been regenerated now. It's also no longer cool to wear a fez.

What happened to your rep?
avatar
Theta_Sigma: That's not necessarily true, I mean Incarnation 4-6 had that lovely shirt with the question marks on the lapels. I can't remember if McCoy kept it though. I am just hoping for a return of the recorder, or possibly a Second Doctor-style Sonic Screwdriver. Oh or possibly a question mark cane. :D YES!
Does this answer your, er, question? :D

And I vote for the decorative vegetable. Or, indeed, the decorative fruit. :P
Attachments:
avatar
Theta_Sigma: That's not necessarily true, I mean Incarnation 4-6 had that lovely shirt with the question marks on the lapels. I can't remember if McCoy kept it though. I am just hoping for a return of the recorder, or possibly a Second Doctor-style Sonic Screwdriver. Oh or possibly a question mark cane. :D YES!
avatar
Pica-Ludica: Does this answer your, er, question? :D

And I vote for the decorative vegetable. Or, indeed, the decorative fruit. :P
I really can't see the lapels since I don't have my brain-y specs on. Though I always did love the pull-over, I really need to get myself one. It's a shame he got rid of it in the book adventures. :(
avatar
Kristian: Not signing a contract is a purposefull action, they certainly didn't let Random.org make that decision for them. In this case an action that means Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics can't be sold here any more. That is the same as purposefully stopping GOG from selling them.
Thanks for making me laugh in the morning. I'm actually fairly sure that snow didn't fall this year because I have farted too little during the year. Wait, logical leap? What? What is that?
avatar
Kristian: Not signing a contract is a purposefull action, they certainly didn't let Random.org make that decision for them. In this case an action that means Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics can't be sold here any more. That is the same as purposefully stopping GOG from selling them.
avatar
Fenixp: Thanks for making me laugh in the morning. I'm actually fairly sure that snow didn't fall this year because I have farted too little during the year. Wait, logical leap? What? What is that?
What part of what I said do you dispute? Will you maintain that not signing a contract with GOG was a mindless random decision? Will you maintain that not being able to sell the games wasn't a result of that decision? If not my conclusion is logically inescapable. A decision made by Bethesda was the cause of Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics to no longer be available on GOG.
Or they simply haven't made a decision.
Sure they did, they made a decision not to enter a contract with GOG for now, leading to the withdrawal of the games. That could change at any second. Personally I don't consider it likely at all. But for all we know they announce a new contract later today or tomorrow.
Not sure if the forumers have become particularly emotive, but you mut admit that the price/buy blocks of the games pages are moving, this year.

(Hm.)