If I count all time I couldn't play games I purchased via Steam (not only download, but even play) just because Steam is a fucking DRM, then all of the sudden 4 days of GOG's marketing failure seem like a short time.

I was not attacking Steam, only pointing out that it is NOT uncommon for someone to NOT be able to play their games due to the DRM Steam uses. What ever the error, a simple search of the Steam forums will confirm that it is not unusual.

I am not a Steam hater and would probably use Steam if not for the DRM they use. Basically, you lease the games and they CAN deny you access to the games you lease. Also, I have no need for most of the perks they offer as pluses. Achievements jumps out as an example . . . =)

Anyway, EVERY system has it's faults. Denying or discounting those that exists will not make them go away. Steam is not for everyone and everyone pointing out Steam's shortcomings are not Steam haters just for doing so.

I am glad Steam works for you but it is not a service which works for me and others . . .=)

To resell a product, you must sell every copy of that product too, the copy you buy is on gog's server, copies you make are downloaded, it isn't reselling unless you get rid of all your copies of the copyright material, which is something you cannot do with GOG unless the service goes down for real or you are denied access to the games you purchased.
If you buy a vinyl record, you don't have access to anything but that copy, so you can resell it. Same if you buy a CD or DVD, until you make copies anyhow(which is perfectly legal to do) but then to resell it you have to either give the buyer the copies or destroy them or it isn't considered reselling it's just selling a pirated copy.

Also, GOG please fix the quoting system.

never happened to me, I guess I'm lucky

You forgot another one: 'Sorry, but the following items are not available for purchase in this country. Your purchase has been cancelled [sic]"

Which was Valve's way of telling people who imported retail versions of Modern Warfare 2 in Japan that they weren't allowed to install it.

So yes, Steam is most certainly DRM and one of the most restrictive ones going when they want it to be.

Fixed . . . =)

Now you're nitpicking. GOG says you can't resell them, but there's no mechanism. You know as well as I that that's what bioform meant. There is nothing in place to actually stop you reselling them which is why they say there's no DRM.

Yes, there is a mechanism, it's tied to your account. To resell something you have to sell the actual purchase plus all copies you made and have access to. (unless you purchased more than one copy, etc. etc. then you only have to lose access when you sell/give away your final copy.)

And yes, you can sell your account, however that is not something you have a right to do, and it's like saying you can crack a game so you don't need Steam for it to run.

Ok, let me put it this way. If I was to send my installer to a friend, what would stop them installing it? If I was to put the file on a DVD and sell it, what would stop them installing it?

There's no DRM because there's no mechanism that prevents me from doing that.

I should say, there's no code that enforces the law.

I'm pretty sure you could sell the digital file for a GOG game and simply delete it from your system. That would likely be legal in some jurisdictions. I don't know if the TOS supersedes your rights. Actual DRM would prevent this.

What's to stop me giving my Steam login details to a friend? What's to stop me giving my Gamersgate account to a friend? The only DRM activation that would completely enforce being unable to give a game to someone else is heavily limited activations, but even then most of them are pretty generous with it. I can't remember the specific title or publisher (I believe it was EA however) who actually encouraged it, quite bluntly saying 'You can install it then let your friend install your copy so you can play online together'.

It's entirely semantic at this point though.

Overall, the best thing to probably say is that the games themselves are DRM free, but purchasing and account management are not. The Humble Indie Bundle is probably the only thing I know of that had utterly completely DRM free - no account needed to purchase and a static download link that you could share with all and sundry if you so wished.

+1 very nice.

I don't know about GamersGate, but you and your friend couldn't both be logged into the Steam account at the same time. I agree GOG imposes some restrictions with their TOS but they don't enforce them with DRM.

Same for me. But yes Steam is DRM as my question to the topic.
I like Steam for their sales and some exclusives but I prefer GOG's service by far..