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Fever_Discordia: Except that in the last public conference they explicitly said that they were going on a mission to Japan to woo the Japanese publishers and are opening offices in LA to be closer to the Americans to get those deals done and get the 'triple A's' of yesteryear back on the market...
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amok: I hope they manage, and they will no longer make statements like "the well is dried up"....
Where were they saying this? Seems odd when we know there a whole bunch of Disney / Lucas Arts titles all cued up and ready to roll out...
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amok: I hope they manage, and they will no longer make statements like "the well is dried up"....
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Fever_Discordia: Where were they saying this? Seems odd when we know there a whole bunch of Disney / Lucas Arts titles all cued up and ready to roll out...
long time ago, it was even an Enigmatic-T post. It was in one of the blue threads at the time, coupled with something silly about going for Moby game ratings at the same time.... not sure where it was now, but I remember being very annoyed by it at the time.
Post edited December 12, 2014 by amok
kind of related but not who owns the rights to Capstone games now
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angelus04: kind of related but not who owns the rights to Capstone games now
Since Capstone went bankrupt, the assets would have been split up between the debtors (whoever they are...). It will also depend a lot on individual games and their publishers, and the contracts they had
Post edited December 12, 2014 by amok
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angelus04: kind of related but not who owns the rights to Capstone games now
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amok: Since Capstone went bankrupt, the assets would have been split up between the debtors (whoever they are...). It will also depend a lot on individual games and their publishers, and the contracts they had
Thanks wasn't crazy about Corridor 7 but would love to play Witchhaven and its sequel so that's why I was asking
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amok: Since Capstone went bankrupt, the assets would have been split up between the debtors (whoever they are...). It will also depend a lot on individual games and their publishers, and the contracts they had
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angelus04: Thanks wasn't crazy about Corridor 7 but would love to play Witchhaven and its sequel so that's why I was asking
Witchhaven was published by IntraCorp, who owned Capstones. IntraCorp folded with Capstone (or rather the other way arond....) So the rights to that one is held by.... whoever got it from the corps of the company in 1996....
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angelus04: Thanks wasn't crazy about Corridor 7 but would love to play Witchhaven and its sequel so that's why I was asking
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amok: Witchhaven was published by IntraCorp, who owned Capstones. IntraCorp folded with Capstone (or rather the other way arond....) So the rights to that one is held by.... whoever got it from the corps of the company in 1996....
Thank you
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Fever_Discordia: Where were they saying this? Seems odd when we know there a whole bunch of Disney / Lucas Arts titles all cued up and ready to roll out...
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amok: long time ago, it was even an Enigmatic-T post. It was in one of the blue threads at the time, coupled with something silly about going for Moby game ratings at the same time.... not sure where it was now, but I remember being very annoyed by it at the time.
Ooh I dunno, I'm not sure I'm remembering exactly the right thread but I'm thinking the post may have been more about reminding everyone that GOG follows a 'boutique' model of having a limited number of quality games and staggering releases so each game has time to shine rather than trying to go around grabbing up the rights to sell every obscure average-to-poor game as if they are Pokemon just because they're over a certain age

I mean before GOG I was quite into MAME arcade emulation and while that scene does have a dubious legality angle and its share of kidiots it's also a preservation project and some of those guys will go to enormous lengths, using their own time and money to source obscure revisions of obscure arcade boards even if they turn out to only be a handful of bytes different to dumps that are already out there so I would support the 'Pokemon' model if that's the way GOG had decided to go but they haven't...
Post edited December 12, 2014 by Fever_Discordia
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angelus04: Thanks wasn't crazy about Corridor 7 but would love to play Witchhaven and its sequel so that's why I was asking
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amok: Witchhaven was published by IntraCorp, who owned Capstones. IntraCorp folded with Capstone (or rather the other way arond....) So the rights to that one is held by.... whoever got it from the corps of the company in 1996....
assuming it was picked up
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amok: long time ago, it was even an Enigmatic-T post. It was in one of the blue threads at the time, coupled with something silly about going for Moby game ratings at the same time.... not sure where it was now, but I remember being very annoyed by it at the time.
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Fever_Discordia: Ooh I dunno, I'm not sure I'm remembering exactly the right thread but I'm thinking the post may have been more about reminding everyone that GOG follows a 'boutique' model of having a limited number of quality games and staggering releases so each game has time to shine rather than trying to go around grabbing up the rights to sell every obscure average-to-poor game as if they are Pokemon just because they're over a certain age

I mean before GOG I was quite into MAME arcade emulation and while that scene does have a dubious legality angle and its share of kidiots it's also a preservation project and some of those guys will go to enormous lengths, using their own time and money to source obscure revisions of obscure arcade boards even if they turn out to only be a handful of bytes different to dumps that are already out there so I would support the 'Pokemon' model if that's the way GOG had decided to go but they haven't...
It is also about how gOg goes about doing things. Sure they will be happy selling old games here, but the feeling I get now is that they no longer so actively go out to get them. Part of the problem is that many of the 'lost' games need a publisher (i.e. an insurance company is not going to be publishing a game, even if they hold the rights to it....) and gOg will not step in to fill this hole. This is where, for example, Night Dive and DotEmu have a different approach, and are not only willing to sort out the legal mess, but also take on the responsibility of publishing them. For games like those mentioned here, I have much more faith in other actors than gOg getting them into the public again. And that post back then.... it did not make me have more faith in them.
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amok: Witchhaven was published by IntraCorp, who owned Capstones. IntraCorp folded with Capstone (or rather the other way arond....) So the rights to that one is held by.... whoever got it from the corps of the company in 1996....
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snowkatt: assuming it was picked up
somebody would have. Be it the bank, whoever rented them offices or the water-boy for salaries owned. All assets would have been sold of and distributed. It may even be in the hands of one of the main designers.
Post edited December 12, 2014 by amok
I have Witchaven from a magazine/CD bundle in the nineties. Never finished it, just played a bunch of levels.

On recent years I've caught myself wishing that someone would make a modern port of it since it runs in an older version of Duke3D's build engine, but unlike the doom engine community (that eventually found a way to replace the lost and never released source code of Strife), the build engine community usually only cares about games that had their source code oficially released.

Fact is, Witchaven, Powerslave, Blood and Killing Time are some of the old FPSs I always wished I could properly get and play in modern ports, to remove some of the most aged aspects of their gameplay (controls, usually). I've tried playing all of them at one time or another, but couldn't due to compatibility bugs or awfully badly aged controls.
Powerslave? Exhumed? Did I walk into an '80s metal thread? Cause that's where I would rather be.
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Ghostbreed: Because I really want to play it but I don't want to get it illegally.
AFAIK it isn't on GoG, Steam or any other online game sellers, except abandonsites.
200 rep, registered back when GOG was "Good Old Games", and you haven't read an "abandonware talk" post yet? ;-)
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yogsloth: Powerslave? Exhumed? Did I walk into an '80s metal thread? Cause that's where I would rather be.
Yay, I'm not the only one thinking of this when reading the title.
Post edited December 12, 2014 by Klumpen0815
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tfishell: 200 rep, registered back when GOG was "Good Old Games", and you haven't read an "abandonware talk" post yet? ;-)
Actually, it is just now that I've been starting to browse the "general" section of the forums. 4 almost 5 years too late. :P