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Posted April 11, 2011
To make a backup of a CD game you own legally with a program like Alchohol 52% and mount it to play it ? Even if it uses Safedisc for example ?

And another question, I suppose it's not legal, but can you use a no-cd crack on a digital download you bought for personnal use ?

Thank you in advance for your answers !
Posted April 11, 2011
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xaemar: To make a backup of a CD game you own legally with a program like Alchohol 52% and mount it to play it ? Even if it uses Safedisc for example ?

And another question, I suppose it's not legal, but can you use a no-cd crack on a digital download you bought for personnal use ?

Thank you in advance for your answers !
You violate the DMCA if your circumvent any type of DRM or copy protection put in place by the publisher - plain and simple, illegal in the eyes of the law - but it doesn't mean the law is right especially when it comes to an issue like fair use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
Post edited April 11, 2011 by rjspring
Posted April 11, 2011
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xaemar: To make a backup of a CD game you own legally with a program like Alchohol 52% and mount it to play it ? Even if it uses Safedisc for example ?

And another question, I suppose it's not legal, but can you use a no-cd crack on a digital download you bought for personnal use ?

Thank you in advance for your answers !
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rjspring: You violate the DMCA if your circumvent any type of DRM or copy protection put in place by the publisher - plain and simple, illegal in the eyes of the law - but it doesn't mean the law is right especially when it comes to an issue like fair use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
Thank you for your answer ! But as I see, it's a law in United States, is it the same for Canada ?
Posted April 11, 2011
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rjspring: You violate the DMCA if your circumvent any type of DRM or copy protection put in place by the publisher - plain and simple, illegal in the eyes of the law - but it doesn't mean the law is right especially when it comes to an issue like fair use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
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xaemar: Thank you for your answer ! But as I see, it's a law in United States, is it the same for Canada ?
Canada has been so far unsuccessful in passing a DMCA style law, though they keep trying. You may want to contact your representatives up there.

If you want a No CD crack for your game you bought I don't know very many people who'd slander your good name for doing that. You may or may not show up as a counted "pirate" by industry standards, I'm really not sure how they count that kind of thing, though going by BSA standards it would seem we all pirate around 100,000 USD of software per year.
Posted April 11, 2011
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xaemar: Thank you for your answer ! But as I see, it's a law in United States, is it the same for Canada ?
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orcishgamer: Canada has been so far unsuccessful in passing a DMCA style law, though they keep trying. You may want to contact your representatives up there.

If you want a No CD crack for your game you bought I don't know very many people who'd slander your good name for doing that. You may or may not show up as a counted "pirate" by industry standards, I'm really not sure how they count that kind of thing, though going by BSA standards it would seem we all pirate around 100,000 USD of software per year.
Ok, thank you for your answer. In my case, I didn't want to use no-cd crack, but only to backup old games to not scratch my Cds... So I suppose it's legal in Canada for now, but maybe not in the long term ? Hope Gog get these games, so I won't have any questions anymore :)
Posted April 11, 2011
You're in canada. Anything goes there.
Posted April 11, 2011
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orcishgamer: Canada has been so far unsuccessful in passing a DMCA style law, though they keep trying. You may want to contact your representatives up there.
currently we have no federal representative due to parliament being resolved, but currently circumventing copy protection is still allowed.
Posted April 11, 2011
Right from the horse's mouth:
30.6 It is not an infringement of copyright in a computer program for a person who owns a copy of the computer program that is authorized by the owner of the copyright to

(a) make a single reproduction of the copy by adapting, modifying or converting the computer program or translating it into another computer language if the person proves that the reproduced copy is

(i) essential for the compatibility of the computer program with a particular computer,
(ii) solely for the person’s own use, and
(iii) destroyed immediately after the person ceases to be the owner of the copy; or

(b) make a single reproduction for backup purposes of the copy or of a reproduced copy referred to in paragraph (a) if the person proves that the reproduction for backup purposes is destroyed immediately when the person ceases to be the owner of the copy of the computer program.
Posted April 12, 2011
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Yes, it is perfectly legal to fuck with your games however you want. ;)
Posted April 12, 2011
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KavazovAngel: Yes, it is perfectly legal to fuck with your games however you want. ;)
That is basically what our copyright act says but I actually prefer your phrasing.
Posted April 12, 2011
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xaemar: To make a backup of a CD game you own legally with a program like Alchohol 52% and mount it to play it ? Even if it uses Safedisc for example ?

And another question, I suppose it's not legal, but can you use a no-cd crack on a digital download you bought for personnal use ?

Thank you in advance for your answers !
Sadly, in germany we have the DMCA kind of law, so everything circumventing copyright is illegal.

On the second question: just try it out. It might depend on the game you have bought.
Post edited April 12, 2011 by Trilarion
Posted April 12, 2011
If you give the copy to your friend Larry, it's illegal.

Also, if you're playing a copied game that has DRM on the CD, you'll need a No-CD crack 9 out of 10 times.
Posted April 12, 2011
Even if it is illegal, do it.

Most legislation that covers copyright is intendet to fight the illegal proliferation of IP material. Nobody will go after you, if you make some copies for yourself.

Worst case scenario is that you have to agree to a cease and desist kind of letterr, in which you agree not to do it again. But nobody will even notice what you do with your stuff at home as long as you don't, lets say, post it on the internet.

And it will most likely be illegal, because, you don't own a game. You own the right to play it. Same with movies, music and the like.
Posted April 12, 2011
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TheJoe: If you give the copy to your friend Larry, it's illegal.
THEY FOUND US OUT LARRY!!! Get outta the country, they know! I don't know how, but they know...
Posted April 12, 2011
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Darling_Jimmy: Right from the horse's mouth:


30.6 It is not an infringement of copyright in a computer program for a person who owns a copy of the computer program that is authorized by the owner of the copyright to

(a) make a single reproduction of the copy by adapting, modifying or converting the computer program or translating it into another computer language if the person proves that the reproduced copy is

(i) essential for the compatibility of the computer program with a particular computer,
(ii) solely for the person’s own use, and
(iii) destroyed immediately after the person ceases to be the owner of the copy; or

(b) make a single reproduction for backup purposes of the copy or of a reproduced copy referred to in paragraph (a) if the person proves that the reproduction for backup purposes is destroyed immediately when the person ceases to be the owner of the copy of the computer program.
Nice law - Canada > USA for sure when it comes to copyright laws.
Post edited April 12, 2011 by Red_Avatar
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