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Posted February 14, 2011
The Iranians just had to do it today, on Valentinsday.

It's the 25th Bahman in Zoroastrian calendar today. In 4 days it's Sepandarmazdgan, the original Valentinsday, but the protestors decided to use the Western variation in regard to protest against the IRI.

Now the Iranians are up at the streets, as Epersian news says, over 1 million protestors!

Hey, give it a nod if you are looking the whole time at the Egyptian freedom movement.
Here you can follow the last updates of the protests through twitter and youtube recordings:
http://wieni2010.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/iran-revolution-live/
Posted February 14, 2011
BBC Persia has had it's satelites jammed by the Iranian government.
Posted February 14, 2011
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Delixe: BBC Persia has had it's satelites jammed by the Iranian government.
I heard there was a Cyber Attack at the news agency sites of the IRI. Anonymous hinted to support the Iranians, so take 2+2
Posted February 14, 2011
Well, it worked well for the Mob.
Posted February 14, 2011
Totally awesome. We're living history here! I hope they'll be just as enduring as the egyptians were... what am I saying they'd to endure the regime for so many years already. A ticking bomb waiting to go off... the time has come.
Posted February 14, 2011
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pops117: Totally awesome. We're living history here! I hope they'll be just as enduring as the egyptians were... what am I saying they'd to endure the regime for so many years already. A ticking bomb waiting to go off... the time has come.
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GameRager: What country will be next I wonder? And will this lead to American protests down the line?
Iran will be the main supporter of America once the IRI is down since they are more western oriented than other oriental countries, except for Israel. Most of the Iranians converted to Christianity and Zoroastrism for a reason.

BTW, to the head of GoG:
Why don't you release some Prince of Persia titles now to support the freedom movement?!
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Posted February 14, 2011
I don't know if I'm as hopeful here as I was with Egypt. That's not just because Iranians didn't succeed last time they tried this (with what was a far stronger effort too), but also because of why that's the case. Iran's government has very little interest in what the people want.

There are two main types of government: Those who serve the people and those whom the people serve. Iran plainly has the latter. There is also a strong fanatical core of governmental support found in the country's zealot extremists. It might seem to us like the government should be a detestable thing to the Iranian people. But that's far from a universal perspective in Iran. If the protests went on too long then they could easily find themselves murdered by government supporters.

They've also got a police and military that will think nothing of gunning down protesters in their hundreds if it came to that. That's not a problem Egyptians were faced with.
Posted February 14, 2011
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Navagon: Iran's government has very little interest in what the people want.
Of course it doesn't. It's a foreign domination.
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Posted February 14, 2011
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pops117: Totally awesome. We're living history here! I hope they'll be just as enduring as the egyptians were... what am I saying they'd to endure the regime for so many years already. A ticking bomb waiting to go off... the time has come.
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GameRager: What country will be next I wonder? And will this lead to American protests down the line?
Poland will join the protest train soon. We can only handle so much Donald Tusk for so long, not to mention our ministers of infrastructure and employment. Also, our president needs to go because he sports a pedo/porn star moustache. That is all.
Posted February 14, 2011
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Navagon: I don't know if I'm as hopeful here as I was with Egypt. That's not just because Iranians didn't succeed last time they tried this (with what was a far stronger effort too), but also because of why that's the case. Iran's government has very little interest in what the people want.

There are two main types of government: Those who serve the people and those whom the people serve. Iran plainly has the latter. There is also a strong fanatical core of governmental support found in the country's zealot extremists. It might seem to us like the government should be a detestable thing to the Iranian people. But that's far from a universal perspective in Iran. If the protests went on too long then they could easily find themselves murdered by government supporters.

They've also got a police and military that will think nothing of gunning down protesters in their hundreds if it came to that. That's not a problem Egyptians were faced with.
If worse comes to worst and slaughter begins, I'm thinking a civil war becomes inevitable at that point. The families won't stand back if one of their relatives gets murdered. If enough people join the movement it will also block the governments normal operations which is capable of bringing it to its knees.
Posted February 14, 2011
This may not be a popular opinion, but I am very worried that this will result in a middle east that is even less stable than before. We've already seen today that Egypt hasn't gone back to work, and are continuing protests. There are protests in just about every country in the middle east.

It's good that Mubarak has gone, but I worry that his legacy will be the collapse of all government in the middle east. We need this process to slow down, if every country gets a new governement at the same time, all likely to be inexperienced at dealing with diplomatic issues while needing to "prove" themselves to their people, there is a real risk that someone's going to start a war.

I'm afraid I see any further protests from now on as a bad thing, regardless of the regime they're trying to topple.
Posted February 14, 2011
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pops117: If worse comes to worst and slaughter begins, I'm thinking a civil war becomes inevitable at that point. The families won't stand back if one of their relatives gets murdered. If enough people join the movement it will also block the governments normal operations which is capable of bringing it to its knees.
It's a possibility. That could be really messy too. The revolutionaries can't count on support from the west either. Not considering how it worked out last time that happened.

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wpegg: This may not be a popular opinion, but I am very worried that this will result in a middle east that is even less stable than before.
Very true. It would be very easy for extremists to make good use of the unrest. If not to gain political influence then to simply gain a stronger foothold in these countries as attentions remain focussed on other problems. But yes, an increase in support for extremist ideals is certainly not unlikely.
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Posted February 14, 2011
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wpegg: while needing to "prove" themselves to their people, there is a real risk that someone's going to start a war.
With what, exactly? They're, like, broke. They start packing heat, and suddenly that $2 per day per person makes a sharp divide by hundred. I'm sure everybody will be thrilled. Especially their neighbors.
Posted February 14, 2011
Another WW is on its way .
Posted February 14, 2011
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lackoo1111: Another WW is on its way .
Are you a fan of Weird Al Yankovic by any chance? Because most of your post are just six words long.
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