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Neobr10....

Tell me, what makes you trust your information about consoles? These people who make consoles do so because they believe in removing control from consumers of hardware, games and pricing, .... trust them? their hardware claims? No sir!

It doesn't mean their not true, it just means i don't trust them.
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mystikmind2000: Tell me, what makes you trust your information about consoles? These people who make consoles do so because they believe in removing control from consumers of hardware, games and pricing, .... trust them? their hardware claims? No sir!
Removing control? Are you sure you play games on your PC? Let me just remind you that physical games on consoles are completely DRM-free (you obviously need the disc in to play the game, but that's as far as it goes). You can share, buy, sell a second hand copy. On the PC, well, you know the deal. "Control" is something that probably applies more to PC gaming than consoles nowadays to be honest.

DO you have any more arguments ar are you just going to come up with wild claims out of thin air? It's impossible to have a rational discussion over random speculations and conspiracy theories, you know.
Post edited February 27, 2014 by Neobr10
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mystikmind2000: Tell me, what makes you trust your information about consoles? These people who make consoles do so because they believe in removing control from consumers of hardware, games and pricing, .... trust them? their hardware claims? No sir!
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Neobr10: Removing control? Are you sure you play games on your PC? Let me just remind you that physical games on consoles are completely DRM-free (you obviously need the disc in to play the game, but that's as far as it goes). You can share, buy, sell a second hand copy. On the PC, well, you know the deal. "Control" is something that probably applies more to PC gaming than consoles nowadays to be honest.

DO you have any more arguments ar are you just going to come up with wild claims out of thin air? It's impossible to have a rational discussion over random speculations and conspiracy theories, you know.
You just fell flat on your face with that post.... see post number 4

Quote: "I should mention that i am not totally against consoles, their mobility, ease of use is exceptional and they are able to withstand children to an extent that no laptop or PC can do.

Also they have advantages given to them because of the idiocy of PC game companies..... Mainly, more than one person can play with only 1 game copy (and screen)"

Edit: and on the hardware front, are you really going to even try comparing who is the control freak?

Edit2: I'm actually interested to understand your opinions on this topic - that doesn't mean i agree or believe, but i will remember what you say and perhaps in the future my opinion will change.
Post edited February 27, 2014 by mystikmind2000
Oops, didn't notice that he was a fanboy. Actually comparing a console with a Titan and using Ghosts as a benchmark..I see there's nothing that can be done here. :\
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Neobr10: Exactly. Consoles are sold at a loss for a reason. You can't build a PC as powerful as a PS4 for U$400. That's the price of a good video card alone. Oh, and please point out where i can get 8GB GDDR5 memory for my PC (that's what the PS4 has, which is much faster than the current memory sticks we have for PCs).

Not only that, but raw power isn't even everything. Consoles are way more efficient than PCs at running games because, well, they're designed from scratch to run games, PCs are not.

Yes, take the PS4 specs and do the math.
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mystikmind2000: Well i find these claims quite remarkable?,,, i will do some research when i get time,,, but i honestly think your deluding yourselves if you think the console has more computing power per dollar.
The US Department of Defense certainly believes it. They built a supercomputer out of either PS2s or PS3s.

Console are built differently. It's not like comparing an expensive car vs. a cheaper car. It's more like comparing a huge textbooks with lots of graphs and questions vs. a romance novel. Both are books, but they're simply built differently. Giving a romance novel when a textbook is needed won't get the right result, even if the romance novel is longer/bigger/has more information.
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MaximumBunny: Oops, didn't notice that he was a fanboy. Actually comparing a console with a Titan and using Ghosts as a benchmark..I see there's nothing that can be done here. :\
With regard to value for money on computing power, there is one other point that sticks in my mind,,, it is the law of miniaturization. A laptop is more expensive than a PC because of miniaturization, a tablet is more expensive than a laptop because of miniaturization, A desktop PC is quite large, larger than a console, so how then can a console be cheaper?

Yes there is the story about making the money back on the games, but who really believes that???

Edit: there is the issue of software specialization i can understand the advantages here.... and I'm no fan of how Microsoft operating systems make PC's so wonderfully efficient! But that is not computing power, that is simply using less power more efficiently, and if you were smart enough, you could just as easily do that with a PC.

Edit: that gives me an idea,,,,, imagine how fast a PC would run games if you somehow rigged it with console software!?!

Just like if i rigged the 10 year old PC i pulled out of your rubbish and sold back to you for $600 bucks!! (slam dunk)
Post edited February 27, 2014 by mystikmind2000
Yeah those people daring to play video games on anything other than a PC capable of playing modern video games sure are dumb! I bet they don't even play Dungeons and Dragons! Silly non-Dungeons and Dragons playing console video gamers, don't you know that the PC is the only real way to play video games? After all, the PC was designed entirely to play video games and that's why all modern PCs can play all modern games (depending only on their operating system) regardless of processor, graphics card, RAM etc etc!

Well brave fellow, now that we've taught those silly console video gamers let us rush back to the anime-mobile as we now have to go inform pop music fans that they have a poor taste in music!





...Seriously, do we need this type of thread to show up every single week?
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NoNewTaleToTell: Yeah those people daring to play video games on anything other than a PC capable of playing modern video games sure are dumb! I bet they don't even play Dungeons and Dragons! Silly non-Dungeons and Dragons playing console video gamers, don't you know that the PC is the only real way to play video games? After all, the PC was designed entirely to play video games and that's why all modern PCs can play all modern games (depending only on their operating system) regardless of processor, graphics card, RAM etc etc!

Well brave fellow, now that we've taught those silly console video gamers let us rush back to the anime-mobile as we now have to go inform pop music fans that they have a poor taste in music!

...Seriously, do we need this type of thread to show up every single week?
this was the most worthwhile post in this thread
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MaximumBunny: Oops, didn't notice that he was a fanboy. Actually comparing a console with a Titan and using Ghosts as a benchmark..I see there's nothing that can be done here. :\
Oh, yeah, i'm a fanboy for posting some facts. I just posted examples there. And you completely ignored that i also mentioned BF4 and NFS Rivals. You can also look at the AC4 comparison if you wish, all of them prove my point. If we can't use multiplatform games to compare the performance of PCs and consoles, how else can we compare them? By using exclusive games? What a fucking genious you are.

By the way, this:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

Since you have no more arguments, you have to resort to ad hominem and personal attacks. What a pitty, really. I thought you had a brain.

Well, if i am a fanboy, please point out where i'm wrong. Every single one of my arguments was backed up by factual evidence, you just came up with shit taken out of your fucking ass and i'm the fanboy? Give me a break.

Keep up with the name calling if that makes you feel better. And please, next time call me a troll, will you?
Post edited February 28, 2014 by Neobr10