hedwards: If you don't think that the Ribbon interface is a huge problem, then I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. The Ribbon interface is a huge problem in and of itself. And to make things worse, each time MS releases a new version they move things around, the current Excel is definitely not the same as the first version they included the Ribbon interface with.
Wishbone: If you don't even read the post you're replying to, then
I'm not going to waste my time arguing with
you. When I said "
ruined the GUI", did you think I meant "
improved the GUI"?
So, your only problem with Excel is the ribbon interface, I take it? Since I specifically asked for anything
besides that (since that much is obvious) and you didn't mention anything else.
No need to make an ass of yourself. I missed one word in your post.
Still the point is that Ribbon is hardly the only problem, they've managed to make the Ribbon worse over time. It wasn't as unusable when they first released the version with Ribbon, but they've slowly taken things that were logically placed and moved them to God only knows where as the survey continually focuses on people that can't figure out how to stop sending data to MS about how they're using the program.
hedwards: If you don't think that the Ribbon interface is a huge problem, then I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. The Ribbon interface is a huge problem in and of itself. And to make things worse, each time MS releases a new version they move things around, the current Excel is definitely not the same as the first version they included the Ribbon interface with.
DarrkPhoenix: While the ribbon can certainly be a pain, the functionality is still there even if you have to re-learn how to access it. And for the basic home user the simple arithmetic they're likely using it for still remains easy enough to access even through the interface changes (although for simple stuff like that the OpenOffice and LibreOffice alternatives are for the most part perfectly good substitutes). In an enterprise environment, though, Excel still, well, excels due to the macros that can be written for it along with being able to integrate it with external databases. For instance, at my job we have Excel plugged into a pretty massive Oracle database so that users can quickly pull in data using query sheets that our IT group sets up, but which have a front-end that can be configured by the user pretty easily. Quite useful for pulling and organizing literally thousands of data points in a matter of minutes. So far I haven't seen other programs that could do the same thing. So what it ultimately comes down to is that while there are certainly things one can complain about with Excel (mostly interface issues), there's not an alternative available that can take it's place, at least in the enterprise environment or for people that actually make use of Excel's full capabilities.
That's sort of the point, I've been using computers for nearly 30 years now and the old UI worked. You're not supposed to be going into menus constantly, that's what the shortcut keys are for. With the old UI you knew roughly where to look if you didn't know the shortcut key. I could have learned how to use the newer versions of Excel, but I'm not going to pay MS money for a new copy and then go through the hassle of learning how to use it because MS UX engineers are incompetent.
With Ribbon, they hide most of the functionality in unpredictable and ill-logical places.
Anyways, MS seems to have serious issues with usability of their products. There's no consistent paradigm to go wtih. It's grossly inefficient to have to take classes to learn how to use a program because the developers decided that they wanted to abandon the typical convention of where to place things. Software like Photoshop, Blender, Autocad tend to need classes, not because the UI is that complicated, but because there's a ton of functionality there.
As far as macros go, that's basically the only legitimate reason for anybody to still use Excel.