Posted August 16, 2013
VABlitz
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Yiuca
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timppu
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Posted August 16, 2013
Probably so. I have a hybrid drive on my newest HP laptop (which is not primarily for my use), but I don't really get any feel of extra speed on it compared to using a 7200 or even the slower 5400 RPM HDDs on my main laptop (maybe I would notice it if I clocked it).
For now I feel quite fine with the speed of the HDDs, so I guess I keep waiting for SSD prices come down. For now I value the capacity over the speed.
Ok. I turn off and on my PC quite often, at least once a day, and I feel fine waiting for it booting up. At least it is still 10x faster than either e.g. my Android tablet or smartphone booting up, which really take ages. :)
If I switch on "fast bootup" in Windows 8 (which basically is a hybrid hibernate mode), Windows boots up in mere seconds with a HDD. But I've disabled even that due to couple of unwanted glitches I had with it, so I am waiting the full time for Windows to power up and load. I guess I am just a patient kind of guy then (except with those Android devices, hence I rather keep them powered on all the time; but the stupid Huawei phone eats the battery in a day or two anyway even if I do nothing with it, so I still have to reboot it quite often).
For now I feel quite fine with the speed of the HDDs, so I guess I keep waiting for SSD prices come down. For now I value the capacity over the speed.
Ok. I turn off and on my PC quite often, at least once a day, and I feel fine waiting for it booting up. At least it is still 10x faster than either e.g. my Android tablet or smartphone booting up, which really take ages. :)
If I switch on "fast bootup" in Windows 8 (which basically is a hybrid hibernate mode), Windows boots up in mere seconds with a HDD. But I've disabled even that due to couple of unwanted glitches I had with it, so I am waiting the full time for Windows to power up and load. I guess I am just a patient kind of guy then (except with those Android devices, hence I rather keep them powered on all the time; but the stupid Huawei phone eats the battery in a day or two anyway even if I do nothing with it, so I still have to reboot it quite often).
Post edited August 16, 2013 by timppu
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Posted August 16, 2013
timppu: Ok. I turn off and on my PC quite often, at least once a day, and I feel fine waiting for it booting up. At least it is still 10x faster than either e.g. my Android tablet or smartphone booting up, which really take ages. :)
If I switch on "fast bootup" in Windows 8 (which basically is a hybrid hibernate mode), Windows boots up in mere seconds with a HDD. But I've disabled even that due to couple of unwanted glitches I had with it, so I am waiting the full time for Windows to power up and load. I guess I am just a patient kind of guy then (except with those Android devices, hence I rather keep them powered on all the time; but the stupid Huawei phone eats the battery in a day or two anyway even if I do nothing with it, so I still have to reboot it quite often).
I understand where you're coming from, I'm similarly patient as I also use my Laptop every day which has a HDD. (I also value space over speed in this case) & before that I was similarly fine waiting the load up time for my main PC without a SSD, that said however I felt the desire to try a SSD + HDD combo for my main PC when upgrading to see how it worked out & I did find it very nice being able to have Windows fully loaded & usable within seconds. If I switch on "fast bootup" in Windows 8 (which basically is a hybrid hibernate mode), Windows boots up in mere seconds with a HDD. But I've disabled even that due to couple of unwanted glitches I had with it, so I am waiting the full time for Windows to power up and load. I guess I am just a patient kind of guy then (except with those Android devices, hence I rather keep them powered on all the time; but the stupid Huawei phone eats the battery in a day or two anyway even if I do nothing with it, so I still have to reboot it quite often).
I read about the fast bootup feature of Windows 8, it sounded quite promising but alas I've not migrated to Windows 8 so wouldn't actually know how well it works. May I ask what kind of glitches you experienced? Sometimes handy to know these things.
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Yiuca: I read about the fast bootup feature of Windows 8, it sounded quite promising but alas I've not migrated to Windows 8 so wouldn't actually know how well it works. May I ask what kind of glitches you experienced? Sometimes handy to know these things.
Don't feel bad about not migrating to Windows 8. The backside is well done, but the UI is so bad that it borders on the infuriating. Even after months of using it, getting to the point where I am genuinely accustomed to it, it's a much worse UI than Windows 7 for laptops or desktops. Best fast bootup out there, though, I think is the ASUS quick boot. On a fully magnetic mechanical drive my laptop boots up in less than two seconds in Windows 7, which is great. Add in the 11.6" form factor and there's no compelling reason to carry around a tablet when I've got a fully-featured laptop in the same space.
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Posted August 16, 2013
That's why you install Classic Shell and just kind of get best of both worlds
It tends to skip the BIOS screen and just jump straight to loading Windows, but I've never seen it skipping OS selection somehow. At any rate, it is way faster than my Win7 install and directly in the OS, you have a restart to BIOS option, which is fantastic.
It tends to skip the BIOS screen and just jump straight to loading Windows, but I've never seen it skipping OS selection somehow. At any rate, it is way faster than my Win7 install and directly in the OS, you have a restart to BIOS option, which is fantastic.
Post edited August 16, 2013 by Fenixp
timppu
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Posted August 16, 2013
Yiuca: I read about the fast bootup feature of Windows 8, it sounded quite promising but alas I've not migrated to Windows 8 so wouldn't actually know how well it works. May I ask what kind of glitches you experienced? Sometimes handy to know these things.
Basically the fast bootup is a partial hibernate mode, and it is enabled by default. That's why you hear the wonderful stories of how much faster Windows 8 boots up compared to Windows 7. :) I had two problems with it, which probably don't affect most users:
- Since I have Windows 7 and Windows 8 installed side by side, "fast bootup" on Windows 8 had the bad habit of corrupting files on the Win7 partition. This was a known problem, I don't know if MS ever fixed it. I presume it will not affect you unless you have some older Windows installed on the side.
- On my PC (ASUS G75VW), fast bootup somehow prevented me from booting up to BIOS/UEFI setup. Some other ASUS owners running Windows 8 reported similar problems on the ASUS forums, and some noticed that when they restart Windows, then they were able to get there (when you run Win8 restart, then it boots the PC up completely, without the partial hibernate). So switching off fast bootup fixed this too.
I recall hearing also that if you have e.g. Linux installed beside Windows 8, fast bootup may make it trickier to boot to Linux. Not sure though, I haven't installed Linux on this PC, at least not yet.
But I guess for most Win8 users the fast bootup is fine way for minimizing the boot up time. A bit like using hibernate instead of shutdown would be for Win7/Vista/XP users, I guess.
Yiuca
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Posted August 16, 2013
OneFiercePuppy: Don't feel bad about not migrating to Windows 8. The backside is well done, but the UI is so bad that it borders on the infuriating. Even after months of using it, getting to the point where I am genuinely accustomed to it, it's a much worse UI than Windows 7 for laptops or desktops.
Best fast bootup out there, though, I think is the ASUS quick boot. On a fully magnetic mechanical drive my laptop boots up in less than two seconds in Windows 7, which is great. Add in the 11.6" form factor and there's no compelling reason to carry around a tablet when I've got a fully-featured laptop in the same space.
I perhaps would have if it were still in the time-period where it were cheaper, but now it's more expensive the only chance at the moment is if I were to get another laptop which has Windows 8 already installed. I hear alot about the UI but I think it's one of those things that I won't truly appreciate it's frustrations until I experience it... Then I'll be annoyed with the rest of you! Best fast bootup out there, though, I think is the ASUS quick boot. On a fully magnetic mechanical drive my laptop boots up in less than two seconds in Windows 7, which is great. Add in the 11.6" form factor and there's no compelling reason to carry around a tablet when I've got a fully-featured laptop in the same space.
I've just read up about ASUS FastBoot, so it does indeed work as advertised? That's pretty cool.
timppu: - Since I have Windows 7 and Windows 8 installed side by side, "fast bootup" on Windows 8 had the bad habit of corrupting files on the Win7 partition. This was a known problem, I don't know if MS ever fixed it. I presume it will not affect you unless you have some older Windows installed on the side.
I don't dual boot anymore, back when Vista was new & devices had next to no 64-bit support I dual-booted Windows XP & Vista until 64-bit support increased but once Windows 7 was released I jumped to Windows 7 & have stayed with it since. Regardless I didn't know about the issue & I wouldn't have looked it up, so it's good to keep in mind for future reference, thanks for that.