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And all I wanted to do was spread the joy of a new Indie Royale bundle. Shame on me!
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carnival73: Well, that's ultimately what happens.

What most people have been doing is waiting several months after that particular bundle finishes and then trade them.

This keeps from distracting from the bundle sale and since the keys are no longer easy to acquire they have more trade value.

I just jumped the gun today because I wanted to ditch the bundle page and never look back.
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amok: You are doing something which you know is not right and against the trust placed in you by IndieRoyale
Let's analyze this:

Why would I do this?

This sounds like the act of a rebel and/or a saboteur (of which i am neither)...so why would anyone do this?


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Garugo: And all I wanted to do was spread the joy of a new Indie Royale bundle. Shame on me!
Lol

There was something that took place in America last month where the city government walked into a poor housing area and shut down some woman handing out free food.

She didn't have the appropriate and expensive paper work to hand out free food in a no free food zone.
Post edited November 19, 2012 by carnival73
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Tiefood: Okay lets say I buy a Xbox game.. and it just so happens it comes with a ps3 copy for free... I do not have a ps3 so one copy is useless.. And I give that ps3 copy to a friend who owns a ps3..

I gave him the ps3 copy because it is useless to me.. I bought the game for the Xbox.. I personally do not use desura for buying games that I can get on steam.. So what am I going to do with Desura keys...?? put them in some .txt file never to be seen again?
That's exactly what you're supposed to do. Or activate it on Desura for when Steam is down or you get mistakenly banned by Valve or whatever.

The Desura key is not a "separate game". It's a different way to access the same game that you were provided for convenience sake. If they could have had the same key activate on both Desura and Steam, they would have done that - it's only two keys because Desura and Steam don't work like that.

Some of my GOG games have Mac installers available. Well, I don't have a Mac. Does that allow me to download the Mac installers of the games and provide them to Mac users to keep the Mac versions from "going to waste"? No! Forget TOS, that's just piracy.
Post edited November 19, 2012 by kalirion
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carnival73: Why would I do this?

This sounds like the act of a rebel and/or a saboteur (of which i am neither)...so why would anyone do this?
I keep asking myself this. Why on earth would anyone do this? I think the answer is greed.

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Garugo: And all I wanted to do was spread the joy of a new Indie Royale bundle. Shame on me!
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carnival73: Lol

There was something that took place in America last month where the city government walked into a poor housing area and shut down some woman handing out free food.

She didn't have the appropriate and expensive paper work to hand out free food in a no free food zone.
But this is more like you coming in and taking the free food and selling it to the poor. (yes, I know you are giving, point is the woman looses out)
I didn't like most of Indie Roayeles, but this one is must have for me ;) Especially for Puzzle Agent 2, I love that style!
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carnival73: Why would I do this?

This sounds like the act of a rebel and/or a saboteur (of which i am neither)...so why would anyone do this?
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amok: I keep asking myself this. Why on earth would anyone do this? I think the answer is greed.
Indeed, greedy greed-a-buggers giving away stuff.
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carnival73: Lol

There was something that took place in America last month where the city government walked into a poor housing area and shut down some woman handing out free food.

She didn't have the appropriate and expensive paper work to hand out free food in a no free food zone.
If the woman was handing out pirated DVDs, would it still be charity? No, because she fucking paid for the food (or had it donated, with permission of those providing the food). She didn't buy some food at a ridiculously steep discount, take double what she paid for without permission of the sellers, eat half of it, and then dump what she didn't want on someone else.

Your so called act of charity loses you no money. You don't give anything up for the goodness of others. Calling what you're doing charity is a slap in the face. You're exploiting the goodness of a group of small developers and trying to pass it off as a moral service you do out of the goodness of your heart. That absolutely fucking disgusts me that you would consider yourself at remotely the same level as someone feeding the homeless.
Last word from me on the matter of splitting up the bundles and sharing out keys, so there are no illusions -

1) you are not fighting 'the power' and big corporations, you are misusing the trust of the underdog (Desura / IndeRoyale) and ripping of indie developers. You seem to like everything DRM free, but this behaviour is just the justification for putting so much DRM on things that it is not possible to do so any more.

2) Why don't you just go and pirate the damed games. The result for IndieRoyale and the developers is exactly the same, but at least then there is not this rubbish pretence that you are doing "a good dead". I prefer a good old fashioned pirate to this rubbish, at least he is honest with what he is doing.

I am done with this now.
Post edited November 19, 2012 by amok
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PenutBrittle: No, because she fucking paid for the food (or had it donated, with permission of those providing the food). She didn't buy some food at a ridiculously steep discount, take double what she paid for without permission of the sellers, eat half of it, and then dump what she didn't want on someone else.
Now you're talking McDonald's.


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PenutBrittle: Your so called act of charity loses you no money. You don't give anything up for the goodness of others. Calling what you're doing charity is a slap in the face. You're exploiting the goodness of a group of small developers and trying to pass it off as a moral service you do out of the goodness of your heart. That absolutely fucking disgusts me that you would consider yourself at remotely the same level as someone feeding the homeless.
Kind like Robin Hood went ape-shitz and started Rob'in every body.

Seriously though - it's just one key.

Had the person not been given it, they probably would not have bought it themselves because they would have been distracted by something much more interesting - Like life outdoors.

This equates to one less person to care about or spread the word around for those games..or bundles in general.
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amok: not this rubbish pretence that you are doing "a good dead".
I most certainly hope not.
Post edited November 19, 2012 by carnival73
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carnival73: Seriously though - it's just one key.

Had the person not been given it, they probably would not have bough it themselves because they would have been distracted by something much more interesting - Like life outdoors.

This equates to one less person to care about or spread the word around for those games..or bundles in general.
And this is no different from sending the DRM-free installers downloaded from your GOG account to just one person.
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carnival73: Seriously though - it's just one key.
Old joke time, you have all heard this one before:

This Scottish farmer walks into the neighborhood pub, and orders a whiskey.

"Ye see that fence over there?" he says to the bartender. "Ah built it with me own two hands! Dug up the holes with me shovel, chopped doon the trees for the posts by me ownself, laid every last rail! But do they call me 'McGregor the Fence-Builder?' No..."

He gulps down the whiskey and orders another. "Ye see that pier on the loch?" He continues, "Ah built it me ownself, too. Swam oot into the loch to lay the foondations, laid doon every single board! But do they call me 'McGregor the Pier-Builder?' No."

"But ye fuck ONE sheep ..."
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kalirion: And this is no different from sending the DRM-free installers downloaded from your GOG account to just one person.
That's a bit different.

Technically those links can get around meaning the whole net could wind up with the link.
Unless GOG has IP restricted those links like the bundles started doing.

If you're meaning giving away MAC GOGs then I agree, I decided against that. But taking the Interplay Bundle for example - I traded some of those keys and gave the rest of the excess away.

Have you ever looked at GOGs Classified thread?
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carnival73: Seriously though - it's just one key.
Yes, and you're the only one doing it, right?
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carnival73: Seriously though - it's just one key.
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amok: Old joke time, you have all heard this one before:

This Scottish farmer walks into the neighborhood pub, and orders a whiskey.

"Ye see that fence over there?" he says to the bartender. "Ah built it with me own two hands! Dug up the holes with me shovel, chopped doon the trees for the posts by me ownself, laid every last rail! But do they call me 'McGregor the Fence-Builder?' No..."

He gulps down the whiskey and orders another. "Ye see that pier on the loch?" He continues, "Ah built it me ownself, too. Swam oot into the loch to lay the foondations, laid doon every single board! But do they call me 'McGregor the Pier-Builder?' No."

"But ye fuck ONE sheep ..."
I get what you're saying but that is faulty programming of the human mind of which I am not responsible for.

The inability to properly discern right from wrong, producing self-righteous mobs, has paved many a road in hell filled with machine guns and landmines.

As I told the other dude in this thread - If you understand you did no wrong then you gotta go down like Gibson in Braveheart.

No one's arguing that Scotsman foul nowadays.
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carnival73: Seriously though - it's just one key.
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Narushima: Yes, and you're the only one doing it, right?
As I said before and aside from the Royal's TOS - The morale majority seem to agree to reserve their duplicates until after that bundle is over.

Thus they don't steal away a potential funder and their keys have more value since they're no longer cheaply obtainable.
Post edited November 19, 2012 by carnival73
He wasn't giving away video games, you're not fighting against violent, bloody oppression.