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Unbelievable! Just browsing through the Commodore website makes me feel like a victim of a late April fool´s hoax.
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Arteveld: Really? :)
http://sta.c64.org/xa1541.html

My brother's a linux user, he played around with that for some time.;)
I think i have the cable somewhere here even.
I wonder if the modern mobos will still support it.
I'd been trying to figure out how to work that cable forever until I gave up. I spent months looking up and trying stuff, never amounted to anything. :P

...and yes, my parallel and serial ports work just fine. They have no trouble working with microcontrollers.
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LordKuruku: I'd been trying to figure out how to work that cable forever until I gave up. I spent months looking up and trying stuff, never amounted to anything. :P

...and yes, my parallel and serial ports work just fine. They have no trouble working with microcontrollers.
Well, the image could've been clearer in the instructions.
Can't seem to find the DiskDrive cable, but i've found this one. Used to connect the Datasette to the PC. Yeah, a PC with a tape drive, f..k yea!:)
This one has no resistors, but that's not really a big change, just a bug on the cable.;)

Forgive the poor quality of the pic, Nokia business phones apparently suck.

Anyhow, my Asus M2N-E doesn't seem to have the LPT, but i bet i have some old PCI LPT card somewhere.

Oh, this reminds me i need to figure out which cable should i put a resistor on, in the video cable, it seems my TV is a bit incompatible with the strong signal of the C64. The main character in Last Ninja, for example, is pinkish and a bit distorted.
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Snickersnack: IIRC, the AtariST used a PC style floppy controller. I think you can use a special utility program to read them on a PC. Commodore users are not so lucky. :/
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Arteveld: Really? :)
http://sta.c64.org/xa1541.html

My brother's a linux user, he played around with that for some time.;)
I think i have the cable somewhere here even.
I wonder if the modern mobos will still support it.
I'm familiar with those and that's cheating. ;) You're using the 1541 (a computer itself) to read/ write disks just like a C64 would.
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Snickersnack: I'm familiar with those and that's cheating. ;) You're using the 1541 (a computer itself) to read/ write disks just like a C64 would.
Cheating? We didn't use those to play, we used them to record d64/t64s to disks and tapes, so they can be played on the original machine. Since these are out of reach for me....;)
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Snickersnack: I'm familiar with those and that's cheating. ;) You're using the 1541 (a computer itself) to read/ write disks just like a C64 would.
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Arteveld: Cheating? We didn't use those to play, we used them to record d64/t64s to disks and tapes, so they can be played on the original machine. Since these are out of reach for me....;)
Cheating in the sense that you're using a genuine 1541 to R/W your C64 disks on a PC rather than using the PC's native floppy controller for the same purpose. One is very easy, the other nearly impossible (unless some crazy person has stepped forward and proved everyone wrong again like they did with Apple ][ floppies).

In your position I would cheat too but with an Atari ST you don't have to.

IIRC, Atari ST floppies can be read in a PC floppy drive because they use similar floppy controllers. Very convenient if your PC still has a floppy drive.
Oh, don't take the cheating remark seriously. I was being facetious.
Post edited April 11, 2011 by Snickersnack
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Snickersnack: Cheating in the sense that you're using a genuine 1541 to R/W your C64 disks on a PC rather than using the PC's native floppy controller for the same purpose. One is very easy, the other nearly impossible (unless some crazy person has stepped forward and proved everyone wrong again like they did with Apple ][ floppies).
Oh, cheating as in, doing the possible. ;P
Well, i have a few 5,25 disk drives here, but i doubt i can do anything with them.
But i don't know, i've never tried, i'd have to ask bro. I mean, i think the tech is a bit different, and unless one would add some stuff to the PC 5.25's, there won't be much to go on. A bit too much hassle.

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Snickersnack: In your position I would cheat too but with an Atari ST you don't have to.

IIRC, Atari ST floppies can be read in a PC floppy drive because they use similar floppy controllers. Very convenient if your PC still has a floppy drive.
Oh, don't take the cheating remark seriously. I was being facetious.
Atari ST was from the Amiga era [as in, 3,5"], and You can do the same with the Amiga disks. Problem is, modern mobos will probably not do well with those 5,25" drives.
Funny thing: i've got a TON of faulty 3,5 drives, and only one faulty 5,25. I wonder if they'll survive the atom bomb.



ALSO, for those without the LPT:
http://www.pcmech.com/article/commodore-64-floppy-usb-adapter/



[edit] (concerning 'cheating') Non taken! I was just a bit confused, as to "how the hell do i apply the term to this situation'. ;)
Post edited April 11, 2011 by Arteveld
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Arteveld: "The new system, which also starts at $595, is a little more modern: it's got a Dual Core 525 Atom processor, an Nvidia Ion2 graphics chipset, 2GB of RAM (upgradeable to 4GB), a 160GB hard drive, and built-in Wi-Fi."
Signs of those custom chips and breaking away from the monopoly of AMD/Intel is clearly evident. It's an overpriced PC, in a nostalgic case. It's not a messiah, it's not bringing any change to the market, and mark my words, it won't. It's gonna die, like all the previous attempts of the new Commodore to enter the 'gaming PC' market.

Guys, if You want a Commodore based case, there's a sh^tload of C64s here in Poland. People sell them for 10PLN [a bit over 3 bucks]. A bit of modding, and You'll save a bit of money.
I keep forgetting that not everyone's train-of-thought has as many roundhouses as mine. What I meant was "If this new Commodore USA can eventually re-introduce etc etc..", meaning that yes, they'd have to start out with brand name chips and boards until they built up enough revenue to start building their own chips. It's a much sounder approach than what the Pandora guys did, banking everything solely on pre-orders because they didn't want any investors mucking everything up.

If and when they fail, it's only going to be because there really isn't any better alternative to Windows when playing big name PC games. Rabid fanbase or not, Linux just doesn't have what it takes to knock Microsoft out of their "well-established" position. It's like trying to supplant the players who've dominated the market in Ultima Online and Lineage: If you haven't been playing since the beginning, you won't get very far without significant help from those who have.

Also: Catweasel.
Post edited April 11, 2011 by predcon
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predcon: I keep forgetting that not everyone's train-of-thought has as many roundhouses as mine. What I meant was "If this new Commodore USA can eventually re-introduce etc etc..", meaning that yes, they'd have to start out with brand name chips and boards until they built up enough revenue to start building their own chips. It's a much sounder approach than what the Pandora guys did, banking everything solely on pre-orders because they didn't want any investors mucking everything up.
Don't worry, from what i've learned, everybody forgets that. I'm in a more eff'd position, beside my jumping-through-topics-to-get-back-to-the-root-matter-later, and a lot of thought shortcuts [whatever they're called], i've got the language handicap. Chaos ensured.

Ah, well, in that case, all i can do is wish them luck. It's a nice thought, but i don't know if they're not starting on the wrong foot here... and hope they won't do the same architectural design flaws Spectrum of IBM did years ago.

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predcon: If and when they fail, it's only going to be because there really isn't any better alternative to Windows when playing big name PC games. Rabid fanbase or not, Linux just doesn't have what it takes to knock Microsoft out of their "well-established" position. It's like trying to supplant the players who've dominated the market in Ultima Online and Lineage: If you haven't been playing since the beginning, you won't get very far without significant help from those who have.

Also: Catweasel.
True, though, a new architecture does not really scratch Windows out. I mean, look at Apple, those PPC they have aren't/weren't that bad, it's just that that rotten apple logo cost so effin' much. All we need is someone who wants to make a risk in making a piece of hardware that's not intentionally limited in order to sell more units every year.
The biggest problem with reliable [my c64 lasted from 1985 to around 2000, til that RAM piece got screwed, but i can fix that in a jiffy, if i find a replacement] hardware today is that from a business point of view, making such is like shooting at your own feet. It's "better" to make something that lasts 2 years, and then dies [yeah, thank You Japan...], then make something that lasts forever.
Hell, i've got an AEG oven in the kitchen, it works, bakes beautifully, and it's like 80-90 years old. Made in the late 20s i think. I only changed the cable, because the old one just turned to dust.
So, either someone with balls of steel, or a complete madman. That's why i don't really see C-USA achieving that. Sadly, of course.

Man, if those computers could give us back stuff like RamDisk[?], that would be awesome.
The Eyetech/Hyperion/A-Eon-designed AmigaOne's were meant to be PPC. G4, even.

My original A500 lasted well into 1998, until my youngest brother opened a program with the "Lamer Exterminator" on it. I wasn't even aware of it until the whole system slowly became more and more less responsive.
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predcon: The Eyetech/Hyperion/A-Eon-designed AmigaOne's were meant to be PPC. G4, even.

My original A500 lasted well into 1998, until my youngest brother opened a program with the "Lamer Exterminator" on it. I wasn't even aware of it until the whole system slowly became more and more less responsive.
My Atari 1040 STfm worked the lime I tried (6 years ago). The problem was that both mouse and joystick were damaged, so I couldn´t do anything with it. Anyway, It was a fine machine.
Post edited April 12, 2011 by tejozaszaszas
C64 Forever!
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Darling_Jimmy: C64 Forever!
Made by the same fine folks who brought you Amiga Forever.
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predcon: The Eyetech/Hyperion/A-Eon-designed AmigaOne's were meant to be PPC. G4, even.

My original A500 lasted well into 1998, until my youngest brother opened a program with the "Lamer Exterminator" on it. I wasn't even aware of it until the whole system slowly became more and more less responsive.
Ouch. No way to clean that up? Hate to see such great machines overpowered by viruses, gone forever.

I wonder how that new New C64 manages heat.


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Darling_Jimmy: C64 Forever!
GameBase64+WinVice+XMPlay forever. \m/ [and a ton of disks for legality sake.]

I appreciate the effort of those guys, but, frankly, as i've tested it, it didn't work that well. And the GUI is horrible. Still, a good source for legal d64s.
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predcon: Made by the same fine folks who brought you Amiga Forever.
Amiga Forever!



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Arteveld: the GUI is horrible. Still, a good source for legal d64s.
I'm a Mac so I don't use the built in GUI anyway. I also just plug the ROMs into my own favourite emulator.