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Trilarion: Maybe you could tell the guys that told you that the legitimate GOG customers are not feeling very comfortable with it. You could suggest them to increase the limit to up to five copies per purchase. Also you could propose to limit this to customers who already have a nice track record like 20 purchased games for their own or whatever. Would that rule out questionable sources of payment?

Btw. I could imagine that a smart key reseller writes himself a programm to automatically repeat the checkout procedure. Such a tool would even be useful for gifters.
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JudasIscariot: Even with 5 copies, there is still the chance for abuse. Keep in mind, that for some banks (I am no expert on this!) it takes a while to register that something fishy is going on. If you have someone querying the bank with individual purchases, then it's a safer bet they'll step in before too much damage is done. Again, I am no banking expert and, yes, I know we have legitimate serial gifters here and it's awesome as hell but, unfortunately, there's too much of a chance for abuse if we allow folks to buy more than one game code at a time.
So, basically, not only do these people explain why you won't sell more than one gift code per purchase, but if I'm reading this right, they also explain why I get turned down when I do try and make multiple purchases at the same site, right??

Well.... shit.

I'm not blaming gog, since it's obvious everywhere does it, but dammit I'm tired of being treated like a criminal because someone else is. I think I'll give away the codes I've got (which there is plenty so it'll be awhile before this happens) and then I'll just stop gifting at all. Damn that's frustrating that this explains the trouble I'm having on BOTH ends. I'm being treated like a criminal because someone else is and I don't like it.

And BTW, are we talking individuals here? I couldn't understand really what you were talking about when you said it at first because my first thought was "wait a minute, there isn't anyone selling gog keys" because of all the stores I've been too, I've seen Steam keys being sold, but never, not once, have I seen a store offer gog keys. So I assume we're talking individuals as opposed to businesses?
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JudasIscariot: there's too much of a chance for abuse if we allow folks to buy more than one game code at a time.
And what if it was done on request to support? That they could create a special order for trusted users to do so, all on an individual basis?
The ideas the last 2-3 posts are bandying about sound like they would require storing information, which is something we don't do, other than the usual user related information.

As I said, I am not an expert on these kind of things and I don't feel comfortable discussing it past what I've already told you as I do not wish to accidentally mislead anyone regarding the multiple codes issue. I can recommend writing some site feedback about it, though :)

(Please note that the last few statements I made about this issue was something I was told directly : ) )
I can purchase one copy of Blackguards for $45 but cannot purchase 10 games at once on sale at $1.50 each...this is a perfect example of 'the law'(or rule in this place) not achieving it's intended purpose. Given the amount of gifting on this site, it would be nice if GoG could figure out a solution to this :)
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JudasIscariot: there's too much of a chance for abuse if we allow folks to buy more than one game code at a time.
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MaximumBunny: And what if it was done on request to support? That they could create a special order for trusted users to do so, all on an individual basis?
Errrrrrrm I am not sure how top answer that question without appearing overly cynical regarding human nature :/
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JudasIscariot: The ideas the last 2-3 posts are bandying about sound like they would require storing information, which is something we don't do, other than the usual user related information.
You store the information already of every game I have bought, gifted or been gifted, so it's already there somewhere :)
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Tarnicus: I can purchase one copy of Blackguards for $45 but cannot purchase 10 games at once on sale at $1.50 each...this is a perfect example of 'the law'(or rule in this place) not achieving it's intended purpose. Given the amount of gifting on this site, it would be nice if GoG could figure out a solution to this :)
Look I know it's a PITA, all I can say is send us site feedback, please :)
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JudasIscariot: Errrrrrrm I am not sure how top answer that question without appearing overly cynical regarding human nature :/
Thanks by the way for taking the time to respond to this interrogation :P <3
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JudasIscariot: The ideas the last 2-3 posts are bandying about sound like they would require storing information, which is something we don't do, other than the usual user related information.
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Tarnicus: You store the information already of every game I have bought, gifted or been gifted, so it's already there somewhere :)
But we don't store credit card information :)
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JudasIscariot: Look I know it's a PITA, all I can say is send us site feedback, please :)
And thanks for the reminder that site feedback exists! lol Will do :)
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JudasIscariot: Errrrrrrm I am not sure how top answer that question without appearing overly cynical regarding human nature :/
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Tarnicus: Thanks by the way for taking the time to respond to this interrogation :P <3
No problem :) Sorry for not answering some things but it's better to not give an answer than an incorrect one, especially when it comes to financial transactions :)
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JudasIscariot: Look I know it's a PITA, all I can say is send us site feedback, please :)
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Tarnicus: And thanks for the reminder that site feedback exists! lol Will do :)
You're welcome... again :)
Post edited April 22, 2014 by JudasIscariot
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MaximumBunny: And what if it was done on request to support? That they could create a special order for trusted users to do so, all on an individual basis?
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JudasIscariot: Errrrrrrm I am not sure how top answer that question without appearing overly cynical regarding human nature :/
Haha, so in short reps mean nothing, vast amounts of purchases means nothing, there's no such thing as community standing, and we're all equally scum just so that the system can be fair to everyone. Gotcha. :P
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JudasIscariot: Errrrrrrm I am not sure how top answer that question without appearing overly cynical regarding human nature :/
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MaximumBunny: Haha, so in short reps mean nothing, vast amounts of purchases means nothing, there's no such thing as community standing, and we're all equally scum just so that the system can be fair to everyone. Gotcha. :P
It's not that at all. It's just what metric do you use to determine that someone's trustworthy?

Sure, there are lots of ways one can state "This person is trustworthy, to me" but it's subjective. What objective method would you use to determine that someone is trustworthy?
I admit I'm probably misunderstanding again, but here are some things that keep going through my head.

Number one, you have to have an account to purchase here.

The codes you purchase here are good here, and nowhere else.

The codes redeemed must be redeemed here and nowhere else.

Soooo, you have every bit of information as far as each and every code ever sold is concerned. You can look up who bought it, and who redeemed it, when, etc.

And with that information it would still be impossible to tell who's abusing the system???

So, since it's impossible to tell who's abusing the system, but you suspect it is a problem, therefore, who would be the most likely suspected??? Those of us that gift often.

At every turn, serial gifters are treated as, and look suspiciously upon, as criminals.

I can't even put into words how bassfuckingackwards that is.

EDIT: And the worst part, I think it's really easy to see what the ultimate solution to this "problem" will be. At some point, gifting codes will no longer be generated and gifting will end. I think the writing for this is probably already on the walls.

EDIT2: Also, I want to clarify that in terms of gog, I'm NOT one of those serial gifters that would be looked upon as criminals that I mentioned above. I have not gifted that many gog games. I was thinking of other people who I see here that do that VERY OFTEN. And they are the ones that don't deserve to be looked upon as criminals IMO.

I'm no criminal either, but 90% of my gifting comes from Steam codes that I get in bundles. I'm a cheapo gifter LOL. Just wanted to point out that even though I started this thread because of personal experiences I'm having, my overall frustration in this post was not personal, I was thinking of folks like Ian, to name one. There are folks here that I would bet have gifted more gog games than I own, and I own a majority of the gog games (I think) so that's not a small number. They're decent folks, not criminals.
Post edited April 22, 2014 by OldFatGuy
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OldFatGuy: I admit I'm probably misunderstanding again, but here are some things that keep going through my head.

Number one, you have to have an account to purchase here.

The codes you purchase here are good here, and nowhere else.

The codes redeemed must be redeemed here and nowhere else.

Soooo, you have every bit of information as far as each and every code ever sold is concerned. You can look up who bought it, and who redeemed it, when, etc.

And with that information it would still be impossible to tell who's abusing the system???

So, since it's impossible to tell who's abusing the system, but you suspect it is a problem, therefore, who would be the most likely suspected??? Those of us that gift often.

At every turn, serial gifters are treated as, and look suspiciously upon, as criminals.

I can't even put into words how bassfuckingackwards that is.
OFG, again, I said all I could comfortably speak about in this sensitive matter. I urge you and everyone else to use the site feedback function regarding this issue. I am sorry I can't be of anymore help :/