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Posted June 19, 2014
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Fever_Discordia: If nothing else then GOG and it's preservation of a huge back-catalog of awesome?
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jamyskis: To a limited extent, yes. But firstly, GOG is a digital storefront, which is a problem for those of us who primarily buy physical. Secondly, GOG's influence is highly limited, and most of the modern triple-A stuff is only available with DRM. It's become apparent of late that GOG has been struggling to get quality titles on board and keeping existing publishers on board. I don't blame GOG for this - I blame an industry that thrives on greed and a docile consumer basis, but the fact remains that you can't get around Steam, Origin and UPlay if you want to get into full-blown PC gaming, which I honestly no longer have a desire to accept.
If you're not into DD how did you even end up here with so much rep? Not trying to me confrontational, just curious...
Was it those 1 or 2 games you REALLY wanted that you could get physical copies of that first brought you in?
You seem to be a pretty a-typical forum reg from what you've said, is all...
The main reason I prefer DD to physical is the patches - with physical, whenever you drag an old game out of the cupboard you spend ages tracking down obscure old patches for your obscure old games and, even if the game was released perfect without any patches needed you still spend ages trying to track down a patch that you decide, in the end, doesn't exist!
That and storage space is at a premium in my tiny flat - I've already thrown away all my cases and put my games in A5 binders to save space...
Post edited June 19, 2014 by Fever_Discordia
Posted June 19, 2014
If I am using a console that means I'm using the t.v. which means I can't play and watch the baseball game, and THAT AIN'T HAPPENING!
Posted June 19, 2014
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Fever_Discordia: If you're not into DD how did you even end up here with so much rep? Not trying to me confrontational, just curious...
Was it those 1 or 2 games you REALLY wanted that you could get physical copies of that first brought you in?
You seem to be a pretty a-typical forum reg from what you've said, is all...
Because GOG is a good place to find games legally if I cannot find them on disc, be it used or new. Also, because I'm reasonable enough to know that disc versions of many indie games are an unlikely prospect. I do like what digital distribution has enabled - namely the revival of old games and very low-budget indie titles that would otherwise have been unfeasible in boxed form - what I don't appreciate is having my hand forced when it comes to traditional AAA games and other titles that would have been better off seeing a proper manual and full boxed release.

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tinyE: If I am using a console that means I'm using the t.v. which means I can't play and watch the baseball game, and THAT AIN'T HAPPENING!
TV, TV, TV...
Post edited June 19, 2014 by jamyskis
Posted June 19, 2014
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tinyE: If I am using a console that means I'm using the t.v. which means I can't play and watch the baseball game, and THAT AIN'T HAPPENING!
Heh, well, you could live-steam the game on your laptop!
Actually, my aerial has recently started to refuse to get a decent digital signal so these days I only ever watch the TV on a laptop live-steam or on demand via an HDMI cable!
(or did you say internet speeds are a joke in that back of beyond, where you've living / running a hotel?)
Post edited June 19, 2014 by Fever_Discordia
Posted June 19, 2014
If consoles offered really good backwards compatibility at a similar price as PC games, I would be far more likely to get a new console. I would probably not leave PC gaming, as I have a rather substantial collection of games, and I like to have the option between mouse & keyboard, gamepad, joystick & driving wheel (which is what I have right now), but I don't see why I would not get into console gaming a bit more. As it current stands, looking at the price & selection that the current consoles offer though, I'm not even considering getting one.
Posted June 19, 2014
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tinyE: If I am using a console that means I'm using the t.v. which means I can't play and watch the baseball game, and THAT AIN'T HAPPENING!
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Fever_Discordia: Heh, well, you could live-steam the game on your laptop!
Actually, my aerial has recently started to refuse to get a decent digital signal so these days I only ever watch the TV on a laptop live-steam or on demand via an HDMI cable!
(or did you say internet speeds are a joke in that back of beyond, where you've living / running a hotel?)
The speeds are tolerable. The bandwidth is teeny tiny and it doesn't take much in the way of bad weather to kill my signal. Still I'm not complaining and obviously by the amount of time I spend in here I'm not hurting on internet access.
Posted June 19, 2014
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Fever_Discordia: If nothing else then GOG and it's preservation of a huge back-catalog of awesome?
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jamyskis: To a limited extent, yes. But firstly, GOG is a digital storefront, which is a problem for those of us who primarily buy physical. Secondly, GOG's influence is highly limited, and most of the modern triple-A stuff is only available with DRM. It's become apparent of late that GOG has been struggling to get quality titles on board and keeping existing publishers on board. I don't blame GOG for this - I blame an industry that thrives on greed and a docile consumer basis, but the fact remains that you can't get around Steam, Origin and UPlay if you want to get into full-blown PC gaming, which I honestly no longer have a desire to accept.
Have to agree with you there. I've got all of those services/clients installed and a few others as well. The only ones I actually use though are pretty much GOG and Steam, but those big boys dominate out there pretty much.
Posted June 19, 2014
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AFnord: If consoles offered really good backwards compatibility at a similar price as PC games, I would be far more likely to get a new console.
Yeah, I was kinda miffed that the PS4 didn't include backcomp, not even for the PS1 or PS2 (for which I have a substantial collection of games). That being said, it's been reported that Sony may yet be working on an emulation solution (which is what the PS3 did with PS1 games anyway - I'm not sure why people were hailing it as some kind of revolutionary idea).

Whether this emulation solution will be limited to digital buyers or whether those of us with original games can partake is yet to be seen. I suspect the former, but only time will tell.

Xbox owners are likely to be shit out of luck though, as the Xbox One is unlikely to be powerful enough to emulate even the original Xbox, let alone the 360.

As it stands, I still have a working PS2 and PS3, so it's not of immediate concern right now, but if push comes to shove, I can always build a Linux PC with PCSX2 as a replacement PS2 - the hardware should be cheap enough when my PS2 dies and I'm unable to buy a replacement.
Post edited June 19, 2014 by jamyskis
Posted June 19, 2014
I have a PC anyway and it's connected to my HD-TV as well as a monitor. So why would I pay 400 moneys for a console if I can just take that money and turn my PC into a much more powerful gaming rig and use it just the same way as I would the proposed miracle console?
Posted June 19, 2014
If all the hamburgers you ever ate started coming with Awesome Sauce™ and free fries, would you stop eating pizza?

It is a somewhat broken question, if you ask me :D.

If consoles picked up the good points of PC gaming (I don't mind gamepads so much on consoles, but backwards compatibility and console moddability and upgradability) and stopped picking up the bad points of PC gaming (as newer generations have started with weird DRM issues, requirements for connecting your console to the internet, constant update things- instead of how it originally was with just "pop in the disk and start playing"), I might get into console gaming a bit more.
Posted June 19, 2014
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babark: If all the hamburgers you ever ate started coming with Awesome Sauce™ and free fries, would you stop eating pizza?

It is a somewhat broken question, if you ask me :D.

If consoles picked up the good points of PC gaming (I don't mind gamepads so much on consoles, but backwards compatibility and console moddability and upgradability) and stopped picking up the bad points of PC gaming (as newer generations have started with weird DRM issues, requirements for connecting your console to the internet, constant update things- instead of how it originally was with just "pop in the disk and start playing"), I might get into console gaming a bit more.
What if I stopped eating hamburgers and pizza altogether already? :)

Peameal bacon with maple syrup... now that's where it's at! :)
Posted June 19, 2014
No. I do more with my PC that a console could never do. The 360 doesn't allow standard hard drives to be installed, or last time I looked use standard USB devices. I'd rather have the open world of computing than a closed system of high priced add-ons, software, and games.
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skeletonbow: What if I stopped eating hamburgers and pizza altogether already? :)
Then life wouldn't be worth living.
Post edited June 19, 2014 by VABlitz
Posted June 19, 2014
Nope. With most of my gaming now a days being non AAA titles I get more variety on PC. Plus console exclusives outside of Nintendo developed and published games have had very little appeal for me for a while now.

Even if consoles had guaranteed backwards compatibility, it wouldn't be cross platform. So instead of now where I can make ISOs of my PS1, PSP and Wii games to play them all on my PC I'd still have to buy more than one dedicated box to do so.

Also the platforms are still locked down. If you want all of your games available without disc swapping, you are forced to go through the manufacturer's store where they get a cut of the sale. On PC you still do have a choice at least.
Posted June 19, 2014
I do a lot of other stuff on my PC, so if given to choice to spend money either on a console or on a PC upgrade, I take the upgrade.
Posted June 19, 2014
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skeletonbow: Peameal bacon with maple syrup... now that's where it's at! :)
You Canadians and your maple syrup... ;-)

That being said, we do always have a bottle in our fridge (it's remarkably expensive here), which we generally only use for American pancakes.
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